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If the attacking team gets a advantage, then yes(I think ).So do I understand this right if a hand is involved in any way, intentional or unintentional, while a goal is scored it's automatically canceled?
If the attacking team gets a advantage, then yes(I think ).So do I understand this right if a hand is involved in any way, intentional or unintentional, while a goal is scored it's automatically canceled?
Of course.Many will confuse the two, you'll see
What’s all this rubbish about silhouettes and so on then. Also just last week there was a game where the ball hit a hand and nothing was given so there clearly isn’t a “it touches a hand rule it’s a foul” discretion is still used.Being in a natural position makes zero difference. If it touches his hand it's a handball.
Great, so now goals get chalked off left right and centre we can start celebrating non goals. Love it. And have VAR chants and all kinds of funTottenham were celbrating loads when that goal was disallowed.
VAR is a double-edged sword. What it takes away in terms of immediacy for one team, it adds in term of hopes for the other team.
That’s it isn’t it, end of the day the decision as per the law was fine. It’s just that the emotion of it is kind of ruined I guess.It’s the delay.
No one in this thread will convince me that people will start reigning in or holding a real celebration before the VAR gives the all clear on a goal. Simple as that.
Same. The rule id fecking crazy, the whole "accidental" aspect of it not being considered is extremely stupid for me.Of course.
I still think they should give the ref a mic like they do in Rugby and a bunch of other sports. My only complaint with VAR in that situation was that I had no clue wtf was going on.
Yeah I didn't notice it on first watch.I thought it will have to be clear and obvious error and not something that people can see only from nth reply?
The rule is clear. Any intentional or unintentional handball directly leading to a goal is ruled out. That's not on VAR.What’s all this rubbish about silhouettes and so on then. Also just last week there was a game where the ball hit a hand and nothing was given so there clearly isn’t a “it touches a hand rule it’s a foul” discretion is still used.
Can kind of get it though. In this case it’s black and white but I can understand in judgemental situations it would cause problems.Same. The rule id fecking crazy, the whole "accidental" aspect of it not being considered is extremely stupid for me.
I saw it in first replay. VAR lads too I imagine.I thought it will have to be clear and obvious error and not something that people can see only from nth reply?
You thought wrong. Every goal will be checked by the var even if there is no chance for there to be an error. Goal equals var check.I thought it will have to be clear and obvious error and not something that people can see only from nth reply?
Nope. Under the new handball rules if a goal is scored/created via handball, even if the handball is accidental, it is an offence. Once it touches the hand it gets disallowed, no discretion.What’s all this rubbish about silhouettes and so on then. Also just last week there was a game where the ball hit a hand and nothing was given so there clearly isn’t a “it touches a hand rule it’s a foul” discretion is still used.
One thing is sure, whatever the rule, debate will never stopCan kind of get it though. In this case it’s black and white but I can understand in judgemental situations it would cause problems.
Because of that hand ball went to goalscorer. I don't understand why people so often call "he didn't mean it" argument?What a disaster of decision. Ball grazing a hand is not handball. That maybe on the rules but it's stupid.
We should cut players' hands off to avoid it imo, from the elbow upwards, they're getting paid plenty so I'm sure they can manage.Besides the VAR system being broken (delay is obviously way too long), the new handball rule is a joke. There should be fewer handball calls, not more.
Because they aren't aware of the new handball rules, mostly.Correct decision. Not sure why people are complaining.
No, because the rules are idiotic.A lot of people getting angry because they don't know the rules.
That seems like just an advantage to defenders as the incident last week it was a penalty check and the ball cleary hits the hand but it was ruled as accidental and nothing given. So if the rule is only for goals then sorry but that’s a stupid rule. Understandably if it’s a Maradona incident or someone has generally made a hand movement to gain an advantage that should be disallowed or a pen given. Not a decision like today, not unless they are going to enforce it the other way.Nope. Under the new handball rules if a goal is scored/created via handball, even if the handball is accidental, it is an offence. Once it touches the hand it gets disallowed, no discretion.
Dry those tears. It is only matchday 2The Premier League is dead or dying. Take your pick.
So, cheating or to say better, undeserved goal by 5,10 cm is ok then? And what would be clear daylight term in rules? 0.5 m? 1m?The issue isn't var, its the rule changes that have come with it. The any touch of an arm is hand ball is shite. And the offside rule should go back to clear daylight to be offside. Still factual but will rule out less goals.
That city goal shouldn't have been ruled out.
The Premier League is dead or dying. Take your pick.