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That's the frightening thing about exponential growth.Took over a couple of months to get to half a million cases.
Took a week for the next half a million.
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No.That's higher than a 28% increase, no?
Feck. .
Kin ell, so lockdown is working, not working or just as it seems everywhere right now, impossible to say as we just have no idea how infected all of Europe was on the 9th March 2020?Seems like much of Italy is infected and the numbers are just going to keep going
28.5%. You are technically right.That's higher than a 28% increase, no?
They're at the peak, it should decrease from next week. The numbers will remain more or less stable. The same thing will happen with Spain soon.Why are Italy still getting 5000 ish cases a day almost 4 weeks into lockdown?
Surely by now that should have dropped off a cliff?
No, today it's 471 but we now have the amount of none hospitalized people that died in care homes since the beginning of the epidemy which is 884.
I actually misread. Thought it said from 79 to 356. My bad!No.
Was 277. 79 more is 28% ish
I'm sure I heard a report last week that said the North calming down (relatively) but rest of country picking up. So, total country's figures stil! risingKin ell, so lockdown is working, not working or just as it seems everywhere right now, impossible to say as we just have no idea how infected all of Europe was on the 9th March 2020?
I can’t get my head around the numbers still coming out of Italy so long after such strict measures were put into place.
Thank feck, sorry if alarmed anybodyNo, today it's 471 but we now have the amount of none hospitalized people that died in care homes since the beginning of the epidemy which is 884.
Lockdowns were too late imho. As we’ve seen from the spring break model, infected travel far and wide very quickly. The fact that people were still flying here there and everywhere, going on cruises, holidays, sporting events.. it’s just everywhere. Europe totally underestimated itKin ell, so lockdown is working, not working or just as it seems everywhere right now, impossible to say as we just have no idea how infected all of Europe was on the 9th March 2020?
I can’t get my head around the numbers still coming out of Italy so long after such strict measures were put into place.
I hear you on the ”peak” thing, but an explaination if possible... where are these new cases catching the virus 3.5 weeks after full lockdown?They're at the peak, it should decrease from next week. The numbers will remain more or less stable. The same thing will happen with Spain soon.
We're trying to get to the situation where infection rate levels off. This thing needs to plateau before it can start to drop and when it drops it wont be off a cliff.Why are Italy still getting 5000 ish cases a day almost 4 weeks into lockdown?
Surely by now that should have dropped off a cliff?
No doubt about that, we massively underestimated it.Lockdowns were too late imho. As we’ve seen from the spring break model, infected travel far and wide very quickly. The fact that people were still flying here there and everywhere, going on cruises, holidays, sporting events.. it’s just everywhere. Europe totally underestimated it
Before they initiated the lockdown in the north, a large number of people went down to the towns where they grew up in the south because "m'uh rights!".Why are Italy still getting 5000 ish cases a day almost 4 weeks into lockdown?
Surely by now that should have dropped off a cliff?
I still don't get how Turkey didn't get the virus earlier. Istanbul airport is fecking big and I don't understand how it would spread sooner in Italy than in Istanbul for example?Meh. Pretty low mortality rate thus far.
Can you answer the question above yours?We're trying to get to the situation where infection rate levels off. This thing needs to plateau before it can start to drop and when it drops it wont be off a cliff.
Kin ell, so lockdown is working, not working or just as it seems everywhere right now, impossible to say as we just have no idea how infected all of Europe was on the 9th March 2020?
I can’t get my head around the numbers still coming out of Italy so long after such strict measures were put into place.
I'm guessing that it has to do with it starting in the north and everyone escaping to the south when the government started talking about lockdowns.I'm sure I heard a report last week that said the North calming down (relatively) but rest of country picking up. So, total country's figures stil! rising
Well you have thousands of people that caught it during the handful of the days prior to the lockdown, these people aren't necessarily living alone or totally isolated, so between the incubation period and the first symptoms they most likely contaminated a handful of people who are only going to show signs this week and next.I hear you on the ”peak” thing, but an explaination if possible... where are these new cases catching the virus 3.5 weeks after full lockdown?
Is there something I’m missing?
So people took it from the North to the South 3.5 weeks ago and are infecting family & housemates on lockdown?I'm guessing that it has to do with it starting in the north and everyone escaping to the south when the government started talking about lockdowns.
So the south is a few weeks behind the north and also poorer, so it might end up even worse there although you'd hope lessons were learnt from the north.
The majority of people don't live on their own they live in a family unit.I hear you on the ”peak” thing, but an explaination if possible... where are these new cases catching the virus 3.5 weeks after full lockdown?
Is there something I’m missing?
That’s been my worry all along. I just think it’ll find a way to keep getting past on this bastard.The majority of people don't live on their own they live in a family unit.
Secondly manufacturing didn't close down until last week so people were still going in to work in an environment where it was impossible for them to keep a 2m distance. That's still happening here.
I have just below and the answer is yes. Also people were still working in non essential jobs up until last week.Can you answer the question above yours?
Are we saying that people are getting infected in the home from already infected house mates or?
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It did hit Turkey sooner, which is what I've been saying all along. There are direct flights from Wuhan to Istanbul. In fact - and it's all information in Turkish and I'm only hearing it second hand but will throw it out there anyway - there is now a belief that it hit Turkey as soon as December.I still don't get how Turkey didn't get the virus earlier. Istanbul airport is fecking big and I don't understand how it would spread sooner in Italy than in Istanbul for example?
For comparision, Malpensa airport in Milano had 28 mil passangers last year, Ataturk Airport had 68 mil in 2018.
Same can be said for USA though.
This isn't going away easy.That’s been my worry all along. I just think it’ll find a way to keep getting past on this bastard.
Yes, that the late lockdowns will probably have effect after around month, and not 14 days, but even that could be questionable if not enough people was tested at begginging of the lockdown, considering the households and the virus spreading exponentially.I hear you on the ”peak” thing, but an explaination if possible... where are these new cases catching the virus 3.5 weeks after full lockdown?
Is there something I’m missing?
The news of the next-day lockdown was leaked somehow, if I recall. In one day, loads and loads of people travelled down the country.I'm guessing that it has to do with it starting in the north and everyone escaping to the south when the government started talking about lockdowns.
So the south is a few weeks behind the north and also poorer, so it might end up even worse there although you'd hope lessons were learnt from the north.
Because the figures have been representative of the testing being done and not actual cases for weeks now.Why are Italy still getting 5000 ish cases a day almost 4 weeks into lockdown?
Surely by now that should have dropped off a cliff?
There are direct flights from Wuhan to Istanbul.
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The drop off in cases is a lot slower than the upslope, but it is now clearly slowing down. Most of the cases now are family infections as it moves through each household that has it.Why are Italy still getting 5000 ish cases a day almost 4 weeks into lockdown?
Surely by now that should have dropped off a cliff?
I wanna be optimistic but worried it’s a little soon for that, there were a couple of good days there but the yesterday and today look a little worrisome again.The drop off in cases is a lot slower than the upslope, but it is now clearly slowing down. Most of the cases now are family infections as it moves through each household that has it.
So to test if you are positive/negative for Coronavirus requires a PCR test with a swab sample from the nasal cavity.Oh Jesus is this the only kind of test available?
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I thought there was a blood test...?
That is an antibody test to see if you have had it. It can't tell if you currently have it.Oh Jesus is this the only kind of test available?
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I thought there was a blood test...?
What's wrong with today? It's been 4000 something new cases for 4 days now, when for the previous 10 days it was 5/6000 a day.I wanna be optimistic but worried it’s a little soon for that, there were a couple of good days there but the yesterday and today look a little worrisome again.
Let’s hope tomorrow is a better figure.
Yes. What was localised, has become more widespread. A much larger population of people being infected at a much slower rate. The fact the daily number of cases isn’t increasing is actually quite impressive.Seems like much of Italy is infected and the numbers are just going to keep going