FrankDrebin
Don't call me Shirley
A whole load of nothing from Boris again.
It was the coming back out again that was the problemWell, a lot of the Tory plays are straight out of the Trump handbook, disinformation, telling lies, social media campaigns and distraction techniques.
the country should have known what they were voting for the day BJ decided to hide in a freezer rather than deal with the media
No, I get that I really do, but from our living room windows we could see lots of people out for a jolly over the weekend without thinking of the impact they could be having on the people who actually live here.I get your rant but I work with psychologists and the amount of information they've been sharing about coping in lockdown is crazy. If professionals have to put out that much information it's not because people need to 'suck it up'. It's because people find it difficulty to mentally cope in a situation like this. Not for all of course but for many people that will be the case, whatever rhetoric they use to describe it.
TrueIt was the coming back out again that was the problem
This is why we shouldn't rush to end lockdown - we don't know this disease well enough and it is going to potentially mutate if we keep exposing it to new hosts. We need to get to New zealand levels of new cases before we start to consider opening schools / relaxing lockdown.21m ago 09:38
This is a bit worrying? (I can't copy and paste as I think it'll screw up the embedded Tweets). Basically children presenting with covid related symptoms, in apparently growing numbers. Not necessarily Covid 19, maybe a different pathogen.
Really worrying if it’s true.21m ago 09:38
This is a bit worrying? (I can't copy and paste as I think it'll screw up the embedded Tweets). Basically children presenting with covid related symptoms, in apparently growing numbers. Not necessarily Covid 19, maybe a different pathogen.
Surely children presenting with “covid related symptoms “ that don’t have covid 19 are just kids with colds/flu?21m ago 09:38
This is a bit worrying? (I can't copy and paste as I think it'll screw up the embedded Tweets). Basically children presenting with covid related symptoms, in apparently growing numbers. Not necessarily Covid 19, maybe a different pathogen.
Well, you jinxed that one didn't you ?Actually I think it was one of the main theories at the beginning why kids are more immune. The theory is that they were exposed more often to corona virus like common cold at school
21m ago 09:38
This is a bit worrying? (I can't copy and paste as I think it'll screw up the embedded Tweets). Basically children presenting with covid related symptoms, in apparently growing numbers. Not necessarily Covid 19, maybe a different pathogen.
"There is little information about how widespread the condition is but the number of children affected is likely to be small, the HSJ reports. Some of the children have tested positive for Covid-19, and some appear to have previously had the virus, it adds."There have been babies in hospital that have survived covid19 so it's not completely 'new' news, is it, that children can get sick with this?
What would be the implication of this being completely new developments, that the virus is mutating or has mutated?
Of if it’s reinfection which presents this way. Which would obviously be a complete disaster."There is little information about how widespread the condition is but the number of children affected is likely to be small, the HSJ reports. Some of the children have tested positive for Covid-19, and some appear to have previously had the virus, it adds."
The bolded part is the most concerning one. This virus is still extremely new, we're only scratching the surface of what effect(s) this has on you - and so far we only know about the short term effects. What would be worrying is that, if it causes other long term complications to those who recover or even stay asymptomatic during their initial infection.
It’s 100% legit. Shared with medic friends and a paediatrician said she’s already seen some cases in her hospital in Dublin. Still possible it’s unrelated to covid, mind you. Also, we have no idea re numbers. Could be (hopefully is!) an extremely rare complication.Yeah I'm chalking that news on kids as bullshit with my head firmly in the sand until it's more widely substantiated.
It’s 100% legit. Shared with medic friends and a paediatrician said she’s already seen some cases in her hospital in Dublin. Still possible it’s unrelated to covid, mind you. Also, we have no idea re numbers. Could be (hopefully is!) an extremely rare complication.
I didn't know about this, but that sounds horrific. Do you know how common it is and how easy it is to diagnose?Of if it’s reinfection which presents this way. Which would obviously be a complete disaster.
Re long term effects after infection one we already know about is hypercoagulabiliy. Forming clots inside the body, which can cause a stroke. I wonder if this kids thing is part of the same picture. Or completely unrelated and driven by the immune system. Feck knows. Grim news to start the week anyway.
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I don’t think anyone thinks it’s a permanent consequence. Just a lingering effect which persists for several weeks/months after infection. No idea how common it is and it’s not easy to diagnose. It’s usually only discovered when someone turns up with a clot.I didn't know about this, but that sounds horrific. Do you know how common it is and how easy it is to diagnose?
Sounds like it could mean an entire generation spending their lives on blood thinning medication if it is widespread (well if they get diagnosed with it)
It's not totally new. Children have been showing up with weird inflammations and rashes in Europe for a few weeks now. As the virus spreads through the English speaking world and they start to see the same, these articles are going to find the way into the press.21m ago 09:38
This is a bit worrying? (I can't copy and paste as I think it'll screw up the embedded Tweets). Basically children presenting with covid related symptoms, in apparently growing numbers. Not necessarily Covid 19, maybe a different pathogen.
Indeed they have.It's not totally new. Children have been showing up with weird inflammations and rashes in Europe for a few weeks now. As the virus spreads through the English speaking world and they start to see the same, these articles are going to find the way into the press.
I would guess it's also becoming more common as the disease spreads through the population. It might not be that the virus is transforming.
The paediatric intensive care society put this out today so obviously there might be worries21m ago 09:38
This is a bit worrying? (I can't copy and paste as I think it'll screw up the embedded Tweets). Basically children presenting with covid related symptoms, in apparently growing numbers. Not necessarily Covid 19, maybe a different pathogen.
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Not the worst analogy. General public more likely to get behind rhetoric to be honest than anything else.Tweet
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It's a terrible analogy as it is literal two non analogous situations which defeats the point of an analogy. The general public would be served better with more leadership and less rhetoric and I don't believe that, generally, the public only relate to meaningless soundbites.Not the worst analogy. General public more likely to get behind rhetoric to be honest than anything else.
It's a terrible analogy as it is literal two non analogous situations which defeats the point of an analogy. The general public would be served better with more leadership and less rhetoric and I don't believe that, generally, the public only relate to meaningless soundbites.
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Ive read an article today stating that in UK 73% of COVID patients in intensive care are overweight and 83% are overweight in France. That’s a large overrepresentation if numbers are correct. Any UK and France posters can confirm?
Further this also give a hope that 3rd world countries will handle COVID better due to less overweight (not so much UK and US)
Collected the oximeter today. Checked with the healthy kids and myself first, normal readings: heart rate of 67-75 and SPO2 of 98%-100% (my 7 year old son won that one with the max score).Curious if you have used an oximeter?
Out of interest, what percentage of the UK is classed as overweight? I imagine its quite high.Ive read an article today stating that in UK 73% of COVID patients in intensive care are overweight and 83% are overweight in France. That’s a large overrepresentation if numbers are correct. Any UK and France posters can confirm?
Further this also give a hope that 3rd world countries will handle COVID better due to less overweight (not so much UK and US)
"We defied so many predictions" was another Trump line.Oh great, Tesco Value Trump is back to save us
https://www.statista.com/statistics/375886/adult-s-body-mass-index-by-gender-and-age-in-england/Ive read an article today stating that in UK 73% of COVID patients in intensive care are overweight and 83% are overweight in France. That’s a large overrepresentation if numbers are correct. Any UK and France posters can confirm?
Further this also give a hope that 3rd world countries will handle COVID better due to less overweight (not so much UK and US)
BMI calculations in this country are ridiculous. I'm BMI of 29ish, considered overweight, but wear size 32" trousers without struggling. Figure that one out.https://www.statista.com/statistics/375886/adult-s-body-mass-index-by-gender-and-age-in-england/
The problem is a lot of our population is overweight. According to that the mean BMI is something like 25 which would classify you as overweight.
Good to hear.Collected the oximeter today. Checked with the healthy kids and myself first, normal readings: heart rate of 67-75 and SPO2 of 98%-100% (my 7 year old son won that one with the max score).
Checked my ill daughter and her heart rate is 108-112 with SPO2 of 99. Wife around the same. The high resting heart rate is expected for a person with an infection or virus. Thankfully they don't need oxygenating despite the various covid symptoms and daughter's chest pain.
You're a minority for who it isn't representative. People who carry above average muscle mass obviously fall out of its range, but it works pretty well for most people who for example don't work out.BMI calculations in this country are ridiculous. I'm BMI of 29ish, considered overweight, but wear size 32" trousers without struggling. Figure that one out.
Trouser size also not representative of waist size, if you hoik your gut up over your trouser waistband before fastening your trousers.You're a minority for who it isn't representative. People who carry above average muscle mass obviously fall out of its range, but it works pretty well for most people who for example don't work out.