Still a small group at least. Here it's tens of thousands of people now. Really weird mix of people as well. No white supremacists but certainly right-wing conspiracy theorists but also a lot of anti-fascist people, social media influencers and even reputable scientists. There has been a worrying number of attacks on journalists as well at these event. On May Day a camera team from a popular satirical show covering a demonstration in Berlin was ambushed and physically attacked by a group of 15-20 leftists which, as evidence suggests, was pre-planned.
I wish I was surprised but I'm not by our media anymore, complete cnuts.
Looks like England are going much more gung ho than Wales. The only changes here are exercising more than once a day, garden centres able to open etc, nothing mentioned about cafes or pubs or meeting pals in the park.
I thought the Government backtracked on these comments and said there wont be much of a release?
Wonder if he had two letters written?
Fortunately for me the managerial metrics for which I've been judged over the last several years (including employee retention) don't include the opinions of Redcafe members! Phew.
It doesn’t matter what the government says if the media are posting those headlines and the BBC are filming street parties/celebrating them. It completely undermines the government and the lockdown they have imposed. We can argue about how poorly the government has handled the situation but instead of trying to be the better people in a situation like that, the media have decided to join them and a minority of the UK has too. Doing these things just gives more people the confidence to go and do what they want.
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We should have a tannoy on every street corner, randomly announcing "stay alert"
Those headlines were printed as a result of a calculated briefing from Downing Street. It’s important to acknowledge that, as it’s how the whole thing works.
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I’ve been saying this for a while - this is obvious - they need to get the economy moving as the money is running out.
Would a government slogan really affect someone in any way whatsoever?
What money is running out exactly?
Totally and completely disgusting.
I assume that from the magic money tree we were told didn't exist a few years ago
This is a really big complaint against a point nobody is making.
Yea there has to be an inbetween that they arent capable of a, seeing and b, implementing
If newspaper sales plummet then the spread of news is suppressed. Is that a good thing?
Your views simply aren't backed up by the polling though so you need to reassess. The vast majority in all polling I've seen do not consider themselves to be personally at risk, the majority think it'll all resolve itself in 2020 and they poll as feeling comfortable with socialising in smaller groups. They just don't want to support the virus in spreading more than necessary because the majority aren't stupid and understand the message to keep R low.
My post isn’t intended to counter any point. Which point do you think that was?
That overlooks two important things.
I could write that plan right now.
Yep fully agree, those VE Day gatherings were stupid along with that conga. I hope those people feel shamed.
I think you would need the virus to have a much higher toll for some people to take it seriously. Here half the people think it’s a hoax now because ‘they didn’t personally know anyone who died from it’. Basic maths seem too difficult to comprehend for them.
This is a problem in itself. I refer to this in my initial post. People need to understand that this will have long term economics effects.
You write in damn word circles. I don’t know if it’s deliberate or accidental. It’s not about ‘summarising your point further’. You just write poorly.
1. Do you have evidence for that? I mean, I’m willing to bet that it’s accurate. I’m also willing to bet that the majority of current transmission is taking places in hospitals and, more damningly, the care homes that we appear to have brushed under the carpet. I think it’s abundantly clear that we need to shield care homes more effectively, and that elderly people, particularly those with underlying health conditions, should be encouraged isolate where necessary. So, yes, I think shielding the most vulnerable will be important going forward.
The quality of my writing is more than adequate. I can break down my message into smaller steps to make it more accessible for you, though. My mistake.
1. Most governments have said it. It's part of the reason why lockdown measures take 2-4 weeks to be reflected in case numbers - it takes that long to spread throughout a household. Countries that are on their way out of the peak i.e not the UK are saying the majority of transmission in the latter stages is healthcare workers taking it home with them.
Spot on. Irresponsible and dangerous messaging, and unsurprisingly mostly from the pro-tory, pro-brexit papers too.
