Victor Lindelof image 2

Victor Lindelof Sweden flag

2019-20 Performances


View full 2019-20 profile

5.7 Season Average Rating
Appearances
47
Clean sheets
19
Goals
1
Assists
1
Yellow cards
6
Status
Not open for further replies.

Pogue Mahone

Swiftie Fan Club President
Joined
Feb 22, 2006
Messages
134,679
Location
"like a man in silk pyjamas shooting pigeons
I thought he was excellent tonight.
Yeah, he was very good. Maguire too.

Along with Martial, Shaw and Rashford (maybe Matic, at a push?) they were the only players that showed up tonight. Everyone else was pish. As Fergie used to say, you just need 8 players to play well. 6 good performances just doesn’t cut it.
 

Halftrack

Full Member
Joined
Jul 12, 2014
Messages
3,984
Location
Chair
Any pundit would put that on Lindelof.
No, the mistake was 4 tall players at the near post losing the header. Lindelöf could have gone goalside of Obafemi and left the far post open, sure, but had the ball gone past the group at the front post and ended up with a Soton player at the far post, you'd all have been lambasting him his decision, goal or no.
 

Relevated

fixated with venom and phalluses
Joined
May 3, 2011
Messages
25,995
Location
18M1955/JU5
So he should've been standing next to De Gea then (since that was where that southampton player was) and disregard the back post as well as the other southampton player? You've never played football mate.
Lindelof was marking Obefami, not the back post. Watch the replay.
 

A-man

Full Member
Joined
Nov 25, 2017
Messages
6,363
Maguire would not. Because he picked his teammate to mark on that corner.
But yeah, Lindelof should have done much better there. It was bad reaction and it was costly.
Yeah wtf was that marking from Maguire? Watching the replay it looked so absurd I started laughing. He pushed away his team mate and there was a big hole behind with Lindelof and two attackers.
 

Morpheus 7

Full Member
Joined
May 14, 2014
Messages
3,723
Location
Ireland
Positioning atrocious for the second goal, not the first time. Played okay but okay is not enough, the pairing is too slow.
 

Cassidy

No longer at risk of being mistaken for a Scouser
Joined
Oct 2, 2013
Messages
31,734
No, the mistake was 4 tall players at the near post losing the header. Lindelöf could have gone goalside of Obafemi and left the far post open, sure, but had the ball gone past the group at the front post and ended up with a Soton player at the far post, you'd all have been lambasting him his decision, goal or no.
Pretty much
 

mu4c_20le

Full Member
Joined
Jul 7, 2013
Messages
45,035
No, the mistake was 4 tall players at the near post losing the header. Lindelöf could have gone goalside of Obafemi and left the far post open, sure, but had the ball gone past the group at the front post and ended up with a Soton player at the far post, you'd all have been lambasting him his decision, goal or no.
I believe it was Matic who jumped and missed the header but interestingly enough MEN did not attribute it to his mistake at all. I dont think anyone would be expected to win that header, rather they were just going for it trying to tip it. Lindelof should've been more alert, especially that late in the game
 

Andycoleno9

matchday malcontent
Joined
Mar 4, 2017
Messages
29,400
Location
Croatia
Zonal marking buddy.
Ah that is new excuse for him now. Good, good. I was wondering what will be this time.
So just to be clear:
He doesn't need to clear headers because he is defending his space and he needs another defender to cover him because he is slow and loves to go in attack.

So we bought Pirlo basically.
 

VP89

Pogba's biggest fan
Joined
Dec 6, 2015
Messages
32,678
"Lindelof should be in front of Obafemi!"

*alternative scenario shows the ball finds its way towards the far post*
"Lindelof should be far post!"

Lets just beat him with a stick anyway :lol:
 

Berbaclass

Fallen Muppet. Lest we never forget
Joined
Jan 23, 2010
Messages
40,280
Location
Cooper Station
Ah that is new excuse for him now. Good, good. I was wondering what will be this time.
So just to be clear:
He doesn't need to clear headers because he is defending his space and he needs another defender to cover him because he is slow and loves to go in attack.

So we bought Pirlo basically.
I think it would have been incredibly difficult for him to head the ball away considering it was flicked on and came to him at knee/waist height...
 

el3mel

New Member
Joined
Oct 23, 2016
Messages
43,736
Location
Egypt
Oh look at people slaughtering him again.

Whatever he does some just made their mind about him.
 

Berbaclass

Fallen Muppet. Lest we never forget
Joined
Jan 23, 2010
Messages
40,280
Location
Cooper Station
"Lindelof should be in front of Obafemi!"

*alternative scenario shows the ball finds its way towards the far post*
"Lindelof should be far post!"

Lets just beat him with a stick anyway :lol:
He's dammed if he does and dammed if he doesn't with a lot of people.
 

simmee

Full Member
Joined
Dec 19, 2012
Messages
940
Lindelof was marking Obefami, not the back post. Watch the replay.
No... The things is, you and the other moron mu4c can only see the situation from when the ball was flicked towards our back post. You don't realise that the players were not standing in exactly those positions a few seconds before.
 

11101

Full Member
Joined
Aug 26, 2014
Messages
21,478
One of his best games for us. He led the defence on and off the ball.
 

arthurka

Full Member
Joined
Jan 20, 2010
Messages
18,832
Location
Rectum
If this was the first time he loses his man or any battle in the air or tussle I guess you could give him that but it's as predictable as anything. He was pretty solid tonight but as always it's him. Matic should have won the header and I miss having a goalkeeper who releases pressure once in a while..
 

Annihilate Now!

...or later, I'm not fussy
Scout
Joined
Nov 4, 2010
Messages
50,081
Location
W.Yorks
"Lindelof should be in front of Obafemi!"

*alternative scenario shows the ball finds its way towards the far post*
"Lindelof should be far post!"

Lets just beat him with a stick anyway :lol:
Who is this imaginary person at the far post that people keep talking about? If the ball goes over Lindelof and Obafemi then it's rolling out wide to nobody.
 

UNITED ACADEMY

New Member
Joined
Aug 14, 2018
Messages
13,127
Supports
Erik ten Hag
Ah that is new excuse for him now. Good, good. I was wondering what will be this time.
So just to be clear:
He doesn't need to clear headers because he is defending his space and he needs another defender to cover him because he is slow and loves to go in attack.

So we bought Pirlo basically.
Not sure how is that an excuse. That's what he's been given a task everytime we are defending corner to go for zonal marking. I'm more shocking how you are still using excuses to hide what Lindelof did wrong on that goal.
 

Relevated

fixated with venom and phalluses
Joined
May 3, 2011
Messages
25,995
Location
18M1955/JU5
No... The things is, you and the other moron mu4c can only see the situation from when the ball was flicked towards our back post. You don't realise that the players were not standing in exactly those positions a few seconds before.
Is it so hard for him to take a step forward?
 

Foxbatt

New Member
Joined
Oct 21, 2013
Messages
14,297
This is exactly why I keep saying that the near post flick is so dangerous at both ends.
There is nothing much he can do once it's flicked. If that flick had gone in the air and into the far corner most people would be saying why wasn't he covering the far post.
We had Matic and Maguire plus DeGea and it should have been stopped from reaching the Soton player.
 

Irwin99

Full Member
Joined
Aug 6, 2018
Messages
9,740
Thought he was very good for the most part. I don't think he's any more error prone than the rest of our defenders or the weak link as most people seem to be suggesting.
 

A-man

Full Member
Joined
Nov 25, 2017
Messages
6,363
Looking at the replay it doesn’t look like Lindelof initially marked obafemi but then he got screened by him. It also looks like there should have been one more United man to defend that space.
 

DevilRed

Full Member
Joined
Mar 2, 2011
Messages
13,033
Location
Stretford End
fecking wank. Not close to the level required. He might look good when we're tonking people 5-0, but when the chips are down and we need to scrape out a victory, you can count on Victor to shit the bed in some way.

Too weak and always looks out of control. Can never dominate his opponent. Many last ditch tackles and hurried clearances.

To top it off, absolutely horrific on set pieces. What was that type of marking? Just outmuscled by obafemi who probably hasn't scored a goal this season? Needs replacing and I've been saying it since the beginning of last season.
 

Annihilate Now!

...or later, I'm not fussy
Scout
Joined
Nov 4, 2010
Messages
50,081
Location
W.Yorks
This is exactly why I keep saying that the near post flick is so dangerous at both ends.
There is nothing much he can do once it's flicked. If that flick had gone in the air and into the far corner most people would be saying why wasn't he covering the far post.
We had Matic and Maguire plus DeGea and it should have been stopped from reaching the Soton player.
We actually never have people on posts for some reason... Just not something we do it seems. So no one could criticise him for that.
 

mu4c_20le

Full Member
Joined
Jul 7, 2013
Messages
45,035
No... The things is, you and the other moron mu4c can only see the situation from when the ball was flicked towards our back post. You don't realise that the players were not standing in exactly those positions a few seconds before.
You sound like you play the game so please explain to me what Lindelof was doing here, was it a great piece of defending? This is the moment the corner was delivered.

 

MikeKing

Full Member
Joined
Aug 7, 2017
Messages
5,125
Supports
Bournemouth
I thought Lindelof had a very good game up until incident surrounding the equaliser. He’s too damn soft for his - and our - own good. No way should a centre-back be conceding a goal in those circumstances. He should’ve held off Obafemi with ease and made the clearance. So frustrating.
It is frustrating. People has to stop with the agenda posts. This is very soft defending, and no he is not the only one to blame for the loss, but it's symptomatic for our failure of capitalising on top 4 this season. Every time we come close there is a defending error, it has cost us plenty. Fair enough, Lindelof did very well most parts of the game but a Man Utd defender has to take responsibility for his mistakes.
Yeah he was the wrong side. After we lost the initial header. You can't be in the right position to defend the flick on, while simultaneously being there to win the ball if it comes all the way through. It's indicative of this place that Matic losing the initial header is immaterial.
Matic losing the initial header was far from immaterial and him doing that, Pogba losing the ball in an important area for the first goal, and Lindelof losing his man on the corner is the remains of Mourinho's side. With those players, when they going gets tough, we struggled with it back then, and we still do.
First half he was hesitant and even if he didn’t really make many mistakes he wasn’t good. Second half was very good. Much more pro active and winning everything in the air and on the ground. Looked poor from the goal but so did many players. Not sure what happened there.
I'd agree with that. He was bordering on world class for 40 minutes of that second half, until his mistake.
I thought Lindelof defended really well until their late equalizer. He cut out several dangerous crosses. We were in big trouble once Bednarek won the header from the corner but Lindelof needed to get in front of Obafemi somehow, to stop the ball going in the net.
Yes. You always have to block a possible shot, pass or flick, something Lindelof never seems to quite understand. I'll put it down to a lapse of concentration due to him performing well overall, except for the last bit.
 

Cassidy

No longer at risk of being mistaken for a Scouser
Joined
Oct 2, 2013
Messages
31,734
You sound like you play the game so please explain to me what Lindelof was doing here, was it a great piece of defending? This is the moment the corner was delivered.

Just before the clip the goalscorer is closer to DDG

In the picture you can see Southampton have 2 players far post vs Lindelof. The flick on could go to either one. His positioning is to try and cover both players

Once the flick on happens he realised the goalscorer is the threat as its headed in that direction but by then its too late.

In terms of defensive organsation its poor from us but there isnt alot Lindelof could have done there. If hes goal side of the goalscorer and the flicks goes the other way its a goal fron the other player.
 

RedDevilCanuck

Quite dreamy - blue eyes, blond hair, tanned skin
Joined
Feb 22, 2007
Messages
8,466
Location
The GTA
Many ddodgy performances tonight from man utd players but Lindelöf stood out as the best player on the field. Truly ridiculous to blame him for the last minute goal. The ball was going in long before he failed to clear it on the goal line. Some posters need to get a grip.
He was not the best player on the field.
 

Andycoleno9

matchday malcontent
Joined
Mar 4, 2017
Messages
29,400
Location
Croatia
Not sure how is that an excuse. That's what he's been given a task everytime we are defending corner to go for zonal marking. I'm more shocking how you are still using excuses to hide what Lindelof did wrong on that goal.
I am not. Lindelof should have done better. He has some excuses for it but i will not even go into it.
At the end he should have cleared it. Period.

But he is still way way way way way better defender than Maguire. He spends 90 minutes every game covering Maguire who is doing... i don't know really what he is doing all game. Leadership? Is that defending trait? I can hear commentator:
"Maguire stopped attacker in dangerous position with great leadership"
 

mu4c_20le

Full Member
Joined
Jul 7, 2013
Messages
45,035
Just before the clip the goalscorer is closer to DDG

In the picture you can see Southampton have 2 players far post vs Lindelof. The flick on could go to either one. His positioning is to try and cover both players
Decent idea but in reality he covered neither. If the ball came higher he wouldn't have won the header from behind either
 

A-man

Full Member
Joined
Nov 25, 2017
Messages
6,363
Just before the clip the goalscorer is closer to DDG

In the picture you can see Southampton have 2 players far post vs Lindelof. The flick on could go to either one. His positioning is to try and cover both players

Once the flick on happens he realised the goalscorer is the threat as its headed in that direction but by then its too late.

In terms of defensive organsation its poor from us but there isnt alot Lindelof could have done there. If he goal side of the goalscorer and the flicks goes the other way its a goal fron the other player.
You can also see how Maguire left that zone. I think if he had stayed, there wouldn’t have been a goal.
 

Macern

Pee pee pants
Joined
May 11, 2014
Messages
13,648
Location
Oslo, Norway
One of his best games for us. He led the defence on and off the ball.
Huh? He had some good passes, but other times he gave away the ball easily. If you look at how we played today, we weren’t able to play out from the back and a lot of it comes down to Lindelöf not being comfortable taking a few touches. He doesn’t have the composure which I find strange since he was branded ‘the iceman’ when he came to us. He gives the ball to AWB when AWB is under pressure far too often. Either that or he hoofs it up. Maguire is actually able to take a touch, get an overview and find unmarked players, or even dribble with the ball forward to create space.

He did have at least one crucial interception which comes to mind. Overall I think he defended well for most of the game, but then again at the last goal he was way too static against Obafemi who bullied him. He was probably a bit isolated because we were down to 10 men, but if we’re blaming anyone for the goal it has to be him.

Overall quite disappointing really and far from one of his best games for us. When reminiscing about his best games for us his game agaist Juve comes to mind. This was no where near that performance. He certainly didn’t lead the defence.

We need a better center back.
 

Halftrack

Full Member
Joined
Jul 12, 2014
Messages
3,984
Location
Chair
Who is this imaginary person at the far post that people keep talking about? If the ball goes over Lindelof and Obafemi then it's rolling out wide to nobody.
Bertrand and Smallbone are both in postion to catch a flick on at the far post.
You sound like you play the game so please explain to me what Lindelof was doing here, was it a great piece of defending? This is the moment the corner was delivered.

And literally a second earlier, Obafemi was standing next to De Gea, with Lindelöf defending a zone. As Obafemi moves towards him, he can either try to get goalside of him, leaving the far post free, or he can gamble on the ball coming in high and still have the far post covered and be in position to deal with it. He can't do both. Had he gotten goalside of Obafemi, with the ball going towards the far post and Bertrand or Smallbone getting to it, you'd all be having a go at him for his decision.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.