I would like to see an headline saying Oliver holt had been assaulted in a bar sanctimonious c**t
Harry Maguire involved in incident with police in Greece - conviction nullified by appeal, full retrial pending
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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My guess is that its been put out as a bit of positive spin for Harry, to try and justify his actions. No doubt it will come out that it wasnt a knife, hence the "sharp object" line. The narrative definitely shifted a bit when that came out from "idiot" to "fair play for defending his sister".
If he had a sister it would be more likely she would have to protect him than the other way round.
The sharp object definitely wasn't their brains.
Seems odd that none of those Harry was fighting were arrested, especially if his sister had indeed been stabbed? Did she need hospital treatment?
Didn't realise this douchebag is still around. Never misses an opportunity to slag off United.
Makes me sympathise with Harry even more
Think about Holt what you will but these have been my first thoughts.
You see other sport greats like Messi, Ronaldo, Nadal etc. jumping from their yachts or sitting in exclusive villas on some islands that normal people cannot afford. They have enough money to bring all their family, friends and wannabe-friends there as well.
I don’t know Mykonos, but my preferred Greek island to go to is Zakynthos and from what I read those 2 are similar by having certain areas crowded by British party tourists. Thinking that one of the most famous sport stars of the UK would run around at Laganas sounds just strange and stupid. Yeah I can somehow see that it might be very cool to get some pats on the shoulder and all the girls you got with you are deeply impressed. But trouble is just waiting to happen.
She could have been poked with an umbrella basically
By the way taking the captaincy away from him would somehow feel like he has been guilty, maybe not the right thing to do.
I just hope this turns out to be a blown up thing without more serious consequences, because bad jokes aside: we are going to need him in good shape.
I just hope this turns out to be a blown up thing without more serious consequences, because bad jokes aside: we are going to need him in good shape.
Typically in a brawl no one gets arrested. The cops break up the fight, tell the fighters to feck off and that's that. If Maguire and his friends started arguing and/or fighting while the other crowd didn't, then you wouldn't expect anything to happen to them. Except if the "stabbed with a sharp object" thing was an actual stabbing, then you'd expect arrests of course.
Internet gangster.
Or, maybe the police are saying that to reinforce their position?
Corruption isn't just bribery. A premier league footballer is quite a collar for a Greek copper, not to mention the English captain of Manchester United.
It's not exactly unrealistic for police to embellish things in order to get a result, it happens often enough in England never mind anywhere else.
Oh how terrible that a rich man doesn’t live an extremely rich And exclusive lifestyle. Maybe it’s nicer that he had a more normal holiday with friends. Just because he has money doesn’t mean he has to change what he enjoys.
May I ask why? He is on a break he can do what the feck he wants. My employer doesn't give a shit what I do on my vacation just as long as I show up back for work on time..
I would be more worried about Covid and crowded bars than what actually did happen, I was a bit surprised. Not that he would be targeted than what happened later. Think he will have been shocked by the abuse as probably not happened to him before when on holiday.
Like the cops knew he was the great Harry Maguire.. he's not Ronaldo ffs nobody would recognise him he was just another drunk brit in a fight.
Of course Holt used his exceptional literary talents to ghost write Stan Collymore's autobiography so he probably knows how a proper gentleman behaves on a night out.
I agree, the club probably had prepared the players for some Covid guidelines and hoped players would follow but again when they have time off they can do what they want. You can bet your bottom dollar on the club is not happy with this at all and he will be reminded that he plays for Utd not Leicester and things are different but when they leave they are pretty much free to do what they want. As the news are coming out it seems that he really didn't do much wrong here and he will definitely learn from this, playing for Utd is something completely different to Hull and Leicester that's for sure..
It's a nothing story. The only thing that bothers me just a little is that he, Rashford and others were vacationing overseas 3 weeks before the season starts (not sure when you start your preseason but I guess at least 2 weeks before that), knowing the country you're in could get added to the banlist and find yourself in a Kane situation. The club should have advised the players not to leave the country given the pandemic and the season about to start. Other than that there's nothing to see here.
Agreed.
The club can advise, it can not instruct.
Given the reputation he’s gained as ‘our captain’ you’d have expected a better example to be set.
It’s a nothing story to an extent but given the wage he’s on; he could have rented a villa in the hills somewhere & given the general public a miss.
Unfortunately, I don’t like to speak in hyperbole.
Of course the police state in Greece is corrupt in ways, as is the case in nearly every country, maybe they’re more corrupt than others. I can buy that too.
But to now assume they are making up all charges on Maguire (which is his biggest defence in this thread) is quite frankly ridiculous, especially when you start trying to convince yourself the police decided “hey lets throw in attempted bribery in there too for shits and giggles”
People are ignoring the facts at the moment which are the charges presented and having conspiracy theories with absolutely no evidence at all to back them up and concluding that it is the more accurate conclusion? Right
I think you'll probably find the entire squad has gone abroad somewhere during this break. Players even went abroad during the break between the PL and EL.
Not sure why the club would advise everyone to stay in the UK. It wouldn't be good for morale and more often than not, they should be able to come back quickly if the country is added to the 14 day quarantine list.
So what would you call it if someone makes a stabbing motion with a blunt object? Say I'm trying to 'stab' you with a spoon, how'd you call that? (Apart from stupid or pointless - haha.)
Serious question actually, curious about this now.
Stabbed with a spoony object.So what would you call it if someone makes a stabbing motion with a blunt object? Say I'm trying to 'stab' you with a spoon, how'd you call that? (Apart from stupid or pointless - haha.)
Serious question actually, curious about this now.
Greece is actually doing pretty well with the pandemic and have been a "safe to travel" destination this summer. The club obviously know this and of course the approved the travel plans. In fact: Greece has been doing better than say.. The UK.
Besides, it IS possible to keep to social distancing and general hygiene advice in Greece, it IS bigger than 50 square metres and you dont have to rub noses with people to go to the bathroom.
Bruno goes to a family friendly quiet location becuause he has a small child. How very, very surprising?
This is a pretty easy position to put yourself in when your sister hasnt been stabbed in the arm infront of you.
That being said: What is the most likely situation here:
Harry becoming aggressive for no reason?
Harry becoming aggressive for a very good reason?
Things don't just happen, especially to a person who frankly has a history of being a very stand up adult human being. If Harry got mad, I choose to believe he had a VERY good reason to.
As long as his teammates want him to be captain, he should be captain.
Yea that's why I said advise, they can't really order them to do so, but I guess the club gave them some guidelines about it, like they must have done at every stage of the pandemic like any other employer. And I agree he should have known better than getting himself in that situation, he knows he's gonna get taunted when partying in public, it must happen to a lot of footballers in that case, especially if you're out there drinking.
I think it'd have been the sensible thing to do, a 14 days quarantine instead of preseason is not the ideal way to prepare for the season, even though it's not a big deal.
Harry has a small child.
You wouldn't. "Stabbed" means with a knife or something similarly stabbable (probably not a word), "stabbed with a sharp object" means with something other than a knife.So what would you call it if someone makes a stabbing motion with a blunt object? Say I'm trying to 'stab' you with a spoon, how'd you call that? (Apart from stupid or pointless - haha.)
Serious question actually, curious about this now.
Edit: In this specific instance, if you really had to describe it, the natural way would probably be stabbed with a spoon because I don't think there is a general term for such weird behaviour.
I presume the child was not with him at a bar?
Well no, but you usually find the Portuguese will go back home as quite often the Spanish will as well. The weather here has now gone to pot as usual, so cannot blame them wanting a bit of sun. Also other countries seem to be dealing with Covid better than us. Unfortunately cannot be dealt with is drunken d*ckheads from the UK who seem to materialise no matter which country you go to.
The Mirror reporting his bar bill was £63,000 it’s any wonder shit kicked off..
Corruption isn't limited to bribes. While it's the most common form of it, corruption is any dishonest or fraulent conduct by an authority.
Police releasing limited information to justify their interpretation of events and the arrest, such as not seeing the need to note that the police involved were plainclothes officers falls nicely into the definition.
In setting the narrative that way, they had a whole swath of people in here and elsewhere believing that a pissed up Maguire was throttling uniformed officers.
Of all the places in the world he goes to a Greek island full of nob heads.
He's 1 year older than me. I thought we all have been through that phase of party islands by 25 maybe?
Judd Trump is embarrassing aswell. He's 31. His Instagram reminds me of myself 10 years ago.
These guys need to grow up if you ask me. Then again we are all different. If i was in Maguires position financially I would be headed somewhere in europe that is a hidden gem with much more to do than clubbing.
He's 1 year older than me. I thought we all have been through that phase of party islands by 25 maybe?
Judd Trump is embarrassing aswell. He's 31. His Instagram reminds me of myself 10 years ago.
These guys need to grow up if you ask me. Then again we are all different. If i was in Maguires position financially I would be headed somewhere in europe that is a hidden gem with much more to do than clubbing.
Excellent post especially the bolded. People like that though will yell 'yolo' to you though as some sort of defence surely.
Take how you like pal. Whatever suits your agenda.
So he was obviously buying everybody there a drink, what a great lad! proper captain.
Should have bought each a book and given them a stern warning to go home, sort their lives out and contribute positively to society by not voting Tory.
Now that would be a proper captain
Drinking Champagne and eating lobster, but at 63k you’d expect them to be proper pissed..
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