Are you absolutely sure that the people saying that the current game is ruined are the same people saying that Maguire shouldn't beat up the cops because someone else hurt his sister?
Harry Maguire involved in incident with police in Greece - conviction nullified by appeal, full retrial pending
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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At this point in time everything is alleged we do not know his defence or the prosecutions evidence in support of the alleged charges. All this will be come clearer on Tuesday when the case is heard in court and a decision made either guilty or not.
However, a guilty decision will unfortunately may cause problems for the club and Maguire, it will raise the problem that the player having a criminal conviction may well be barred from entering certain country's one of which could be Greece and certainly the USA. So we may end up with a 80 million pound defender who could be barred from entering countries which have teams involved in the Champions and Europa Leagues.
Also from the video that is going the rounds certainly has not been taking the risk of contacting the virus very seriously, or the risk of bringing this back into the training ground.
Not the actions I would expect of the team captain.
However, a guilty decision will unfortunately may cause problems for the club and Maguire, it will raise the problem that the player having a criminal conviction may well be barred from entering certain country's one of which could be Greece and certainly the USA. So we may end up with a 80 million pound defender who could be barred from entering countries which have teams involved in the Champions and Europa Leagues.
Also from the video that is going the rounds certainly has not been taking the risk of contacting the virus very seriously, or the risk of bringing this back into the training ground.
Not the actions I would expect of the team captain.
No, I was admittedly being quite facetious there in my comments regarding Harry retaliating to (allegedly plain clothed) police that were unfair, so apologies for that.
My main point though is that we should wait to see what the authorities & legal system deem happened before we cast full judgement.
I don't know the reason but I really don't care about this incident from up to bottom at all. It'll be solved and he'll be out. Can't get that interested in it overall.
Says the guy quoting the sun or the daily mail or some other trash rag.
Wouldnt trust twitter post that has "allegedly" most of them are just 1+1 equals 10.
It's fan fiction at worst, opinions at best
Stabbed to bleed
Secret police
Fridge (no greek who doesnt speak english can understand their taunt, so either they knew the language or they're just clueless)
Assaulted
So strong he need 5 men to pin down
Mess around with a group of girls (what's this? Like actually hands on trying to grope them or what?
90 percent of the itk are probably rubbish.
It's fan fiction at worst, opinions at best
Stabbed to bleed
Secret police
Fridge (no greek who doesnt speak english can understand their taunt, so either they knew the language or they're just clueless)
Assaulted
So strong he need 5 men to pin down
Mess around with a group of girls (what's this? Like actually hands on trying to grope them or what?
90 percent of the itk are probably rubbish.
I find it quite ironic this thread is full of people arguing Greek police are extremely corrupt, yet one of the charges is attempted bribery. So corrupt they deny a bribe, eh?
A lot of speculation also going on about what happened, didn’t happen. All you have to go on at the moment are the charges, and if they are even somewhat true is it a complete shit show for any top player at any top club, never mind the world record defender and club captain at Manchester United.
I highly doubt it will go any further due to who he is and the money and reputation involved (go figure the world is unbalanced and feked), but the very fact these charges were presented is a huge concern, particularly the more serious ones.
A lot of speculation also going on about what happened, didn’t happen. All you have to go on at the moment are the charges, and if they are even somewhat true is it a complete shit show for any top player at any top club, never mind the world record defender and club captain at Manchester United.
I highly doubt it will go any further due to who he is and the money and reputation involved (go figure the world is unbalanced and feked), but the very fact these charges were presented is a huge concern, particularly the more serious ones.
But this is not robbing a house is it? A brawl can happen when one is drunk. I doubt Harry intends to assault police officer when sane. One has to look at the intention, if there is no malafide intention then he is not guilty and why should one expect police to be civil dress unless they are doing an undercover operation or came to a bar themselves, in that case they are off duty and become more kind of person, still an offence but he is not obstructing an official duty.
Somehow things doesn't add up, I don't know how maguire is personally but its strange that one would intentionally take such a step. Ben stokes punched a guy but he didn't punch a police officer and no person, how powerful and rich or connected would do that in public. It all appears a big misunderstanding.
If this is true, then it is always the case of self defence. If there one mark or bruise on his sister then Harry is within his right.
I have to say, a guy at work yesterday backed this up completely.
He went to Greece a few years back with his son, they decided to wear a couple of irish footy shirts and the staff treated them with open arms, while actively pointing out the other english groups, sneering at them.
Could it be the fact one was a father and son, the other a group of lads. Far more variables than just nationality - yet you choose to stereotype an entire nation due to a dit from some bloke at work.
Sick and tired of this ridiculous labelling that’s going on.
I get it, lots of this forum dislike the English and so find anecdotes to support their prejudices.
That’s exactly what you’ve done here.
It's 10 times better than Greek! I'd never go back there, I had my fill of Greek island holidays when I was in my 20s. It's on my list of places I never want to go to, along with China and Texas.
No because he made a point confirming they were irish, then said something like you are greeks of the north and gave them a hug.
Im also english by the way
Opposition supporter comes on and completely ignores all context shocker
What the feck is with fans of other clubs and their problem with Maguire. Literally no hard facts have come out yet and the man's pleaded "not guilty" so there's that. Try not to seethe about it all weekend.
The only shit show is this abomination of a post. You’re speaking as though the charges against Maguire are fact, whereas guilt, or innocence for that matter, is still to be proven. So all your guff about it not being befitting of a Man Utd captain and the implication he will get away with it due to money is just tribal bollocks.
People are complaining about the standard of posting on the Caf these days, and it is doubtless fuelled by garbage opposition posters, with some exceptions.
I doubt he will be getting promoted any time soon thankfully.
Why the feck is he going to a crowded island in Greece during a pandemic is my question? Dosen’t the club have any sort of restrictions where the players can go on vacation in covid times?
I see Bruno is with his fiancé and children on a quiet place in Portugal. Seems a bit more mature to me.
The new season starts in three weeks feck sake!
I see Bruno is with his fiancé and children on a quiet place in Portugal. Seems a bit more mature to me.
The new season starts in three weeks feck sake!
Had the pleasure of meeting Harry Maguire at a charity do once. He was surprisingly down to earth, and VERY funny.
At least Brandon and Marcus is at the same place Harry was. The destination was obviously approved by the club.
So this incident has given licence to all those who think we overpaid for Maguire, or who don’t think he’s fast enough, or don’t think he should have been given the armband or that his head is too big a chance to screech and bleat and generally be hateful and belligerent twats?
Throw is some good old fashioned generalisation and stereotyping for good measure and we have yet another amazing stream of discussion! Awesome thread.
Throw is some good old fashioned generalisation and stereotyping for good measure and we have yet another amazing stream of discussion! Awesome thread.
One more thing they have in common is that they’re three overhyped, overpayed british players.
Don't forget he is breeding children with big heads as well, putting his wife's health at risk.
Talk about ungrateful fans..Even if his sister gets stabbed in the arm, he's silly to get into a brawl in a foreign country. All he had to do was make sure his sister was safe by breaking up whatever was happening with her and then they could all leave together. Its completely understandable to get upset and angry, its not to completely forget your responsibilities and act like a lout.
“Hey! You ruffians who have just stabbed my sister and goaded me all night. I am going to enter this fight now perchance and you shall allow me leave. You are fiends and scoundrels and I have now broke up this fight. You will now disperse!”
That tooIf I see one more person write "stabbed with a sharp object", I might kick something with my foot.
Why would he have to enter the fight. He just puts himself between his sister and them, and they leave. Who cares if they goaded him? They have much less to lose. Only a child would care about it more than how it makes the club look to be getting into fights
Not according to the Law
He is English and abroad. Definetly guilty. Doesn't need a trial.
He he...
Mate, I don't usually give advice but you need to stop digging
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You talk like Maguire purposely and intently attacked a police man? From all accounts this only happened with plain clothed officers that they thought were more trouble makers.
he didn’t choose to do that at all.
Some of you talk like you’ve never been in an intimidating situation ever in your life? If you have a group of people following you, shouting at you and saying horrible things - then end up cutting your sisters arm? Do you think they’re going to just stop and leave? Do you think asking them nicely go away will make any difference
they’ll just follow you and carry on.fighting them was no doubt a last resort and required. I feel bad for your sisters/families if that’s how you react.
Also instinctive. If I’d been out and some fool had stabbed my Sister / Mrs / Daughter / Son or any other loved one I’d probably have done exactly the same.
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