Who said it had?What are you talking about now? The Pandemic hasn't gone away man
Oh who's ranting? Obviously your mental health has gone downhill after a year indoors seeing nobody. You lied a few posts back and I just proved you wrong, why did you lie?Never let facts get in the way of a good rant.
Delivering pizzas on a moped is hardly high riskWho said it had?
During the pandemic different demographics have most cases at different times 14-17, 20-30, 30-40, 50-69, and the 20-60’s are more likely to work in jobs where they must go to work. We know the workplace is another Covid favourite environment.
But as I say, keep blaming man, you’ve been doing it for a year so why stop now? It’s those youngies and their parties, the cnuts, Covid wouldn’t still be in Europe if not for them.
Try delivering through the centre of Dublin these days and see how well you do!Delivering pizzas on a moped is hardly high risk
Also goes without saying that most of the people who've been happiest to stay in lockdown for as long as possible, judging anyone else who makes even the slightest misstep, are those who are middle aged, comfortably settled in their jobs, relationships, house status, potentially even with older kids etc.Younger and older workers have experienced the brunt of the hit to jobs and pay, with the very youngest in the most challenging position. One-third of 18-24-year-old employees (excluding students) have lost jobs or been furloughed, compared to one-in-six prime-age adults, with these experiences also more common among employees in atypical jobs. Similarly, 35 per cent of non-full-time student 18-24-year-old employees are earning less than they did prior to the outbreak, and 30 per cent of those in their early 60s, compared to 23 per cent of 25-49-year-olds.
https://www.resolutionfoundation.org/publications/young-workers-in-the-coronavirus-crisis/
To add some balance here.
“Prime-age adults”. Never heard that before. I’m a prime age adult! Feck yeah!Younger and older workers have experienced the brunt of the hit to jobs and pay, with the very youngest in the most challenging position. One-third of 18-24-year-old employees (excluding students) have lost jobs or been furloughed, compared to one-in-six prime-age adults, with these experiences also more common among employees in atypical jobs. Similarly, 35 per cent of non-full-time student 18-24-year-old employees are earning less than they did prior to the outbreak, and 30 per cent of those in their early 60s, compared to 23 per cent of 25-49-year-olds.
https://www.resolutionfoundation.org/publications/young-workers-in-the-coronavirus-crisis/
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It's ancient!over 40 is old now?
Where do you live? I suspect not in the UK since we have no curfew.Yes, yes it is, that's why we have a curfew and also why you dont see many old feckers in the video
Add to this that it's the younger demographic who will bear the biggest brunt of the cost of this going forward, which will take a generation (at least) to pay off. Add that to a reduction in jobs and the already difficult job of getting on the property ladder and it's bleak.Younger and older workers have experienced the brunt of the hit to jobs and pay, with the very youngest in the most challenging position. One-third of 18-24-year-old employees (excluding students) have lost jobs or been furloughed, compared to one-in-six prime-age adults, with these experiences also more common among employees in atypical jobs. Similarly, 35 per cent of non-full-time student 18-24-year-old employees are earning less than they did prior to the outbreak, and 30 per cent of those in their early 60s, compared to 23 per cent of 25-49-year-olds.
https://www.resolutionfoundation.org/publications/young-workers-in-the-coronavirus-crisis/
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That’s an absolutely terrible take.The young stayed inside for the last 12 months to protect the old. There is a smaller chance that young people will die from the virus but it is still more than capable of fecking them up. As far as I'm concerned the newly vaccinated old can return the favour and stay inside for those who are still waiting for their turn. Vaccine passports can come in only once everybody has had the opportunity to get the vaccine.
I think there are a lot of problems with vaccine passportsTo be honest, when it comes to 'vaccine passports', I do feel a bit more apprehensive about its use domestically than internationally, especially in countries where the vaccine rollout is going a bit more slowly.
I understand why it might happen but the optics of someone in their 40s or 50s being allowed to head back into the gym or the pub while someone in their 20s can't just because they haven't been offered the chance to be vaccinated yet...is quite harsh.
Having said that, as someone who has already received both doses, I will lord my return to normal lives over all of you plebs for as long as possible.
Maybe, but im not bothered. If i have to take a risk catching trains to work etc I dont want people who know they are immune, but may still transmit it, going about their business as normal. Everybody should stay careful until none of us need to.That’s an absolutely terrible take.
What does that even mean? You don’t think the virus works well enough? If so, why should you be able to go about your business as normal after you’re vaccinated?Maybe, but im not bothered. If i have to take a risk catching trains to work etc I dont want people who know they are immune, but may still transmit it, going about their business as normal. Everybody should stay careful until none of us need to.
I think vaccine passports are a quick way to get everybody of all ages to ignore the rules.
If you’re offered the vaccine (and your doctor deems it safe for you to take it) but decide to turn it down, then that’s your own tough shit. Much less sympathy with anyone in that situation than younger people who have to wait a while.I think there are a lot of problems with vaccine passports
It discriminates on various fronts, for example-
Against people of ethnic minority, who are less likely to take up the vaccine for cultural and historical reasons
Against people with health conditions which makes it difficult to take the vaccine
Against younger people on the basis of age
Against people who may choose not to take the vaccine for a variety of reasons including distrust of government, phobia of injections, logistical difficulties, etc
This. You can’t complain of you’re offered it but don’t take it. (Medical reasons aside).If you’re offered the vaccine (and your doctor deems it safe for you to take it) but decide to turn it down, then that’s your own tough shit. Much less sympathy with anyone in that situation than younger people who have to wait a while.
What’s happening in the US anyway? Youngest wait the longest?This. You can’t complain of you’re offered it but don’t take it. (Medical reasons aside).
edit:What’s happening in the US anyway? Youngest wait the longest?
Ireland seems to be a real outlier with the 18-35s ahead of 35-50s. It seems like a sensible approach to me. Was expecting more countries to go down the same route. Especially when you consider how some of the biggest clusters have been at universities.
What does that even mean? You don’t think the virus works well enough? If so, why should you be able to go about your business as normal after you’re vaccinated?
If you’re genuinely worried about this issue then allowing society to ease off the social distancing gradually, one cohort at a time, is the best approach anyway. Much safer than everyone all getting back to normal all at once.
I’m finding the responses on this really odd. Seems to be straight up jealousy. Dare I say it, slightly immature?!
The elderly are the most vulnerable, but that doesn't mean young people are totally immune from it. They have a lower chance of dying but it can still cause real problems. Once the vaccinated cohorts are safe from the virus (but as far as we know can still transmit it), it is not fair that they can be free to go out and spread it as much as they like, putting those who are still unvaccinated at risk, even if it is a lower risk. Everybody should be careful until we are all safe.
What you will find with a vaccine passport is that those who are vaccinated feel invulnerable and ignore the rules, and in return everybody else will see that and think why should they follow rules if half the population doesn't have to.
Not as positive as last week though, so that’s good.345 deaths today compared to 533 last Friday. Also infections down to 8523 from last Friday's 12,000 odd. Very positive week.
In the UK, that would be a short-lived differential though. Young people will be able to get the vaccine before the summer's over, I'm pretty sure.I'm not particularly against vaccine passports on principal. But after the last few years in the UK, the prospect of a bunch of 50+ year olds posting their selfies of pints in the pub on Facebook while 20 year olds are barred would be fairly likely to add to inter-generational resentment that's already running at pretty worrying levels.
It’ll either be because of the oldies or the young unsWhy is the rate of case decline slowing down.
More testing?Why is the rate of case decline slowing down.
They should have ensured it was part of the track and trace app, sort of like when you scan your phone/check in paper going through the airport. So when you get your jab, your individual code from track and trace/QR Code gets inputted/scanned and it updates your track and trace and this is what you show, input or scan when going through the airport at your chosen destination.Vaccine passports are a ridiculous idea. It'll somehow cost us a feckin fortune to implement like everything else the government have spent money on.
Then itll be people who have been vaccinated somehow can't log in / download their passport or something, or the businesses systems won't work as they should and it'll all be a shit show.
Add in the government will somehow add a fee on the businesses for the system.
I highly doubt it would be a bit of paper/card that could be lost easily, even if it is, they're easily forged.
It's upto people to get vaccinated or not, the uptake is around 80% anyway isn't it? So if 80% of the country is vaccinated that should be fine anyway. The other 20%, some have probably already had it so built up antibodies anyway, others will never come into contact with it, and some will get it but those vaccinated will be protected.
They're just arsing abiut pretending like this is a good idea to look as if they're doing something. Then it'll be a "we justify this tax hike because our vaccine passports scheme cost £4billion".
Call me cynical, but meh, it's stupid and won't benefit anybody or any business in reality.
Yea that did cross my mind.More testing?
Because a significant number of people are still going to work, school etc. And the more testing.Why is the rate of case decline slowing down.
There's a good piece in the MEN on it. Essential workers and those in precarious employment having to go out and mix with others is likely a big part of why rates in some places seem to never come down as far. Hopefully the evidence that the vaccines are cutting transmission can help with the push to keep the numbers dropping.Why is the rate of case decline slowing down.
You’d also wonder if differences in vaccine uptake between different regions could be a factor. If not now, then soon. Is that data available?There's a good piece in the MEN on it. Essential workers and those in precarious employment having to go out and mix with others is likely a big part of why rates in some places seem to never come down as far. Hopefully the evidence that the vaccines are cutting transmission can help with the push to keep the numbers dropping.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...-news/north-south-divide-covid-rates-19918490
It is, but I don't think the publicly available data is at a granular enough level to link to particular areas. There is substantial evidence that there's less uptake in a number of BAME communities, and you can infer something by linking that to local demographics, but it's a problem without an obvious good solution. Someone suggested sending vaccination teams door to door, but I think that might just make things worse - if you're already skeptical, strangers banging on your door is probably not that reassuring.You’d also wonder if differences in vaccine uptake between different regions could be a factor. If not now, then soon. Is that data available?
Obviously that was too simple for them, they like to go arse first with everything and plan nothing. That app is garbage anyway. They love giving themselves a pat on the back and saying it works wonderfully but in reality it doesn't.They should have ensured it was part of the track and trace app, sort of like when you scan your phone/check in paper going through the airport. So when you get your jab, your individual code from track and trace/QR Code gets inputted/scanned and it updates your track and trace and this is what you show, input or scan when going through the airport at your chosen destination.
