R'hllor
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I think Spain and Italy clubs are most desparate for it.Should be a clue as to who was really pushing this.
I think Spain and Italy clubs are most desparate for it.Should be a clue as to who was really pushing this.
Has to be. What can compare. It’s been mental.Is this the fastest thread ever?
Perez chatting shite into the early hours of the morning?What do you people think was the catalyst for the dismantling of the ESL? The fans’ protests? Amazon saying “no dice”? Or the first club announcing that they were going to leave?
We really are an atrocious football club these days. It's as reluctant a statement as I've ever seen and shows no sentiment towards fans at all. I hope these protests go ahead this weekend, just to voice how much we despise the way the club acts. fecking scumbags.What a pathetic statement.
The people leading it were Europeans, they are well educated but were just greedier.They need to educate themselves with the mindset of British and European sports fans.
Government saying they'll get involved. You might have the best lawyers but they play within the rules i.e. laws.What do you people think was the catalyst for the dismantling of the ESL? The fans’ protests? Amazon saying “no dice”? Or the first club announcing that they were going to leave?
Yeah but it was the English clubs that broke this whole thing. So if the Yanks knew their audience, they would have known this would never fly.The people leading it were Europeans, they are well educated in were just greedier.
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Stoke joined, that's why everyone else left.And Stoke City get all the free advertisment.
Yep, they've set the idea back by decades.They've been working on their superleague idea for years and it was one of the biggest fiasco in the history of football, we're not going to see that anytime soon. I really disagree with this "it's bound to happen" speech. It's not.
Yes, well said.As much as I disagree with those that wanted it to succeed, or even those that wanted to wait and see; let's not break this unity we've got going now and focus on getting the Glazers out of the club next.
They really thought they could withstand the blowback.What an embarrassment for these clubs. Multi billion dollar companies acting like complete amateurs.
And there we have it. The long-awaited answer to the question of whether Barcelona would be able to do it on a cold Tuesday night in Stoke.Stoke joined, that's why everyone else left.
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I think they got immense pressure from the sponsors as sponsors don't like negativity. Some chose to go public like Liverpool'sWhat do you people think was the catalyst for the dismantling of the ESL? The fans’ protests? Amazon saying “no dice”? Or the first club announcing that they were going to leave?
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Player reaction and the Govt.What do you people think was the catalyst for the dismantling of the ESL? The fans’ protests? Amazon saying “no dice”? Or the first club announcing that they were going to leave?
From what I have read this was led by Perez and another Madrid banker. They managed to convince Woodward and the Italians who are of course bankrupt. Liverpool joined United and City and Chelsea were the last to join. Arsenal did not want to be left behind and Levy wanted to join by inviting himself.There could be many elements to it. Maybe they fully expected backlash from organizations and fans but all the government talk may have truly scared them.
Could also be that these American owners were just completely blinded by greed and all the others club in fear of missing out joined the project.
More facts will be coming out in the next months what happened behind the scenes. That is my expectation anyway.
The first clubs announcing that they weren't going to join and then the subsequent clubs declining offers.What do you people think was the catalyst for the dismantling of the ESL? The fans’ protests? Amazon saying “no dice”? Or the first club announcing that they were going to leave?
They anticipated pushback from the fans, but I think they severely underestimated the sheer scale of public outcry that this would generate. It was bound to trigger sponsors to run for the hills. I don’t think the govt taking a tough stance helped either.What do you people think was the catalyst for the dismantling of the ESL? The fans’ protests? Amazon saying “no dice”? Or the first club announcing that they were going to leave?
Mate, I've been having an existential crisis since Sunday!I've never been involved in a long thread like this. I am going to kind of miss it......work output dropped but football survived. Not going to lie but I was surprised how emotional all this made me.
Cheers, mates.
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The fans knocked down the first domino. The rest then began to fall.What do you people think was the catalyst for the dismantling of the ESL? The fans’ protests? Amazon saying “no dice”? Or the first club announcing that they were going to leave?
Ah, yes, I forgot the most powerful deterrent of them all. I have to agree.Government saying they'll get involved. You might have the best lawyers but they play within the rules i.e. laws.
You rewrite the rules and it doesn't matter you have the best players if someone comes to a sword fight with a bazooka.
Very well stated here.Yep, they've set the idea back by decades.
They've thrown away the plan they were working on for years, burned bridges with other clubs including each other, lost authority and leverage with UEFA/FIFA and botched things so badly that clubs will be very slow to sign up to a similar fiasco again.
And that's without taking into account any actual measures that will be put in place to prevent something like this happening any time soon.
Tories know a popular move when they see one...So PL will declare Glazers ownership as null and void now
Did you see the Poster about Stoke on a cold night?Stoke joined, that's why everyone else left.
Fans reaction - esp. on Twitter & The FA meeting BorisWhat do you people think was the catalyst for the dismantling of the ESL? The fans’ protests? Amazon saying “no dice”? Or the first club announcing that they were going to leave?
I'm kind of disappointed there's no mention of Ole in any of these revolt stories.MY CAPTAIN!
Put some respec on his name
They got off to a bad start right away. It was supposed to have 15 founding clubs. Without Bayern and PSG it already became harder to sell.What do you people think was the catalyst for the dismantling of the ESL? The fans’ protests? Amazon saying “no dice”? Or the first club announcing that they were going to leave?
Yes, that Chelsea fan's going to be mightily disappointed he won't be travelling up there.Did you see the Poster about Stoke on a cold night?
HeI for one feel bad for Mourinho. He gave his life as a Martyr for football, and within the next day it all went back to normal.
We all won but Spurs seem to have come out on top from these past few days. Imagine if they beat City now as well .I for one feel bad for Mourinho. He gave his life as a Martyr for football, and within the next day it all went back to normal.
Was it Perez leading dumb and dumber?The people leading it were Europeans, they are well educated in were just greedier.
Nope. I think Arsenal are the only club to apologise so far.Is there even an apology in that? Feck FSG.