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youmeletsfly

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This just proves you were the same person with zero knowledge and rational expectations back then as you are now.
Hey son, enlighten me a bit with your knowledge and brilliance, how does it prove it kind Sir?
Hit me up with some more passive aggressive intelligence flex please, I'm already really curious. Jesus some people are really stupid.
 

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If Sancho is signed this summer and able to settle in quickly then it'd be Rashford's regret not to have the summer rested to prepare for next season as I have no doubt his place in the first team will be at risk.
 

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If Sancho is signed this summer and able to settle in quickly then it'd be Rashford's regret not to have the summer rested to prepare for next season.
To be fair he’s not going to turn down the Euro’s for a 3 month rest.
 

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To be fair he’s not going to turn down the Euro’s for a 3 month rest.
Then I don't want to hear him or anyone complaining next season with his injuries that has affected his performance.

These excuses need to stop, if he / physios / doctors deemed himself fit enough to play for England then he should be fit and ready to go next season.
 

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Then I don't want to hear him or anyone complaining next season with his injuries that has affected his performance.

These excuses need to stop, if he / physios / doctors deemed himself fit enough to play for England then he should be fit and ready to go next season.
You are going to hear it for the next 5 years from Rashford FC as he regularly disappoints.
 

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I've never known a player to play so many games while apparently being injured.
 

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I've never known a player to play so many games while apparently being injured.
It's quite common across all sports.

These are only a small number of the high profile examples that have gone public:

John Terry

Chelsea's captain took painkilling injections to play in April days after he cracked two ribs in the first leg of the Champions League quarter-final against Benfica. He was forced off a week later in the second leg, complaining of breathing problems. The 31-year-old centre back has a long history of playing through pain that stems from persistent injuries to his back and knee.

Kelly Sotherton

The former heptathlete, who won a bronze medal at the 2004 Olympics in Athens, said she "never" started a competition 100 per cent fit and free from medication. The 35-year-old retired last month after failing to recover from back surgery in time to compete at the London Games.

Lleyton Hewitt

Australia's former world No 1 tennis player lost in the first round of this year's French Open but said it was good "not to have pain" following successful surgery. This was required after doctors refused to give him any more painkilling injections for recurring toe problems. Previously, the 31-year-old said he had not been pain-free since last March and needed injections for "pretty much every match I played".

Richie McCaw

The captain of the New Zealand rugby union team started last year's World Cup with a problem with his foot. He had fractured it in February and needed surgery, but the pain got worse in the showpiece tournament and required painkillers. During the event the 31-year-old openside flanker became the first All Black to reach 100 Test matches. He went on to play in the final and lift the cup.

Andrew Flintoff

The celebrated cricketer blames England's 2009 Ashes campaign for ending his career. The 34-year-old all-rounder retired in 2010 after failing to overcome a chronic knee problem. Playing against Australia, he was given a huge number of painkilling injections to help him stay in the series, but ended his career saying his knee was "in bits".

Gavin Henson

His career may have gone off the rails this year but Henson, 30, made a winning return to Wales's rugby union side in 2008 after a two-year absence. He played in their Six Nations victory over England at Twickenham but needed a painkilling injection at half-time as he struggled with an Achilles injury. He played in every game with that Grand Slam-winning side, but is now without a club.

Paul Lawrie

The 1999 Open champion golfer has had a foot injury for a year. He was to have surgery last winter but a return to form has seen him playing on with painkillers.

Kobe Bryant

The US basketball star, who has just finished his 16th season with the LA Lakers, manages a long-standing wrist problem with injections before a game and ice wraps afterwards. Bryant, 33, also wears an immobilising brace to hold it in place off court. American footballers also admit to using painkillers, including the Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Michael Vick and the Chicago Bears linebacker Brian Urlacher.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-...orts-stars-risking-their-careers-7818047.html
 

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Scores while captaining his country at the age of 23. Proud day for him.
 

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It's quite common across all sports.

These are only a small number of the high profile examples that have gone public:

John Terry

Chelsea's captain took painkilling injections to play in April days after he cracked two ribs in the first leg of the Champions League quarter-final against Benfica. He was forced off a week later in the second leg, complaining of breathing problems. The 31-year-old centre back has a long history of playing through pain that stems from persistent injuries to his back and knee.

Kelly Sotherton

The former heptathlete, who won a bronze medal at the 2004 Olympics in Athens, said she "never" started a competition 100 per cent fit and free from medication. The 35-year-old retired last month after failing to recover from back surgery in time to compete at the London Games.

Lleyton Hewitt

Australia's former world No 1 tennis player lost in the first round of this year's French Open but said it was good "not to have pain" following successful surgery. This was required after doctors refused to give him any more painkilling injections for recurring toe problems. Previously, the 31-year-old said he had not been pain-free since last March and needed injections for "pretty much every match I played".

Richie McCaw

The captain of the New Zealand rugby union team started last year's World Cup with a problem with his foot. He had fractured it in February and needed surgery, but the pain got worse in the showpiece tournament and required painkillers. During the event the 31-year-old openside flanker became the first All Black to reach 100 Test matches. He went on to play in the final and lift the cup.

Andrew Flintoff

The celebrated cricketer blames England's 2009 Ashes campaign for ending his career. The 34-year-old all-rounder retired in 2010 after failing to overcome a chronic knee problem. Playing against Australia, he was given a huge number of painkilling injections to help him stay in the series, but ended his career saying his knee was "in bits".

Gavin Henson

His career may have gone off the rails this year but Henson, 30, made a winning return to Wales's rugby union side in 2008 after a two-year absence. He played in their Six Nations victory over England at Twickenham but needed a painkilling injection at half-time as he struggled with an Achilles injury. He played in every game with that Grand Slam-winning side, but is now without a club.

Paul Lawrie

The 1999 Open champion golfer has had a foot injury for a year. He was to have surgery last winter but a return to form has seen him playing on with painkillers.

Kobe Bryant

The US basketball star, who has just finished his 16th season with the LA Lakers, manages a long-standing wrist problem with injections before a game and ice wraps afterwards. Bryant, 33, also wears an immobilising brace to hold it in place off court. American footballers also admit to using painkillers, including the Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Michael Vick and the Chicago Bears linebacker Brian Urlacher.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-...orts-stars-risking-their-careers-7818047.html
A few of these are players that were rushed back for specific vital games. Rashford literally plays all of the time no matter the importance.
 

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It's quite common across all sports.
That's a good list but there's no need to look beyond our own club really, indeed some of our best ever players. Stevie Coppell and Paul McGrath both stopped training due to injury years before they stopped playing. Giggsy had to teach himself to run more slowly to save his hamstrings, though he was still quick by anyone else's standards of course.
 

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Some utter nonsense being posted on here by some with their anti Rashford agenda. You wouldn't think this was a Utd forum
 
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Some utter nonsense being posted on here by some with their anti Rashford agenda. You wouldn't think this was a Utd forum
nothing ever changes.

young, home grown player captains his country. Plays well, and looks to be getting back into form, scores a pen…

Can’t even be bothered to read the comments. I do wonder why some people bother to ‘support’ the club.
 

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Just my two cents on Rashford - I know he's rated by a lot of people, I know some don't rate him at all, personally I think he is a decent player, but nothing more than that and I believe United won't win anything major with him as a regular. Same goes for England, although I doubt Southgate is stupid enough to start him at the Euros. There are at least four attacking midfielders way better than him in Foden, Mount, Sancho and Grealish.

Rashford, Sterling, Lingard and Henderson should be nowhere near the starting lineup for England.
 

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If Sancho is signed this summer and able to settle in quickly then it'd be Rashford's regret not to have the summer rested to prepare for next season as I have no doubt his place in the first team will be at risk.
Reportedly, he will undergo surgery after the EC and miss the start of the season. Sancho on the left, Greenwood on the right.
 

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If you have physical limitations, get treatment. Don't bring it up after a final loss while claiming it is not an excuse.
If he is really injured or has physical limitations, then he should not be selfish about hoarding a place that another fit player can take at Club.
Then I don't want to hear him or anyone complaining next season with his injuries that has affected his performance.

These excuses need to stop, if he / physios / doctors deemed himself fit enough to play for England then he should be fit and ready to go next season.
This.

Injuries are not making him dribble head down into 4 players. His poor decision making time and time again cant be chalked up to injuries either.
 

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Feels so good to put down Sancho over Rashford.

Causing a problem over absolutely nothing.

May you continue to annoy this certain bracket of ‘fans of United’ and may you do it through pure stats and data.
 

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Do we actually know for sure if he's currently injured or not?
If he's having surgery after the Euro's that has been confirmed on numerous occasions on the Caf and throughout the media, do you think he's fully fit and doing it for a giggle :p
 

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If he's having surgery after the Euro's that has been confirmed on numerous occasions on the Caf and throughout the media, do you think he's fully fit and doing it for a giggle :p
Not sure anyone thinks that but how far away are we from “if I play badly it means I’m injured “?

Many players work through injury but surely only up until the point where it impacts their performances and Rashford reached that some time ago. Besides he has had good matches in this period where he’s been waiting surgery so I think some question whether his poor performances have anything to do with the injury and aren’t just down to playing badly.

Throughout this entire period presumably every week, many times twice a week, he has been telling the manager he’s fit enough to play
 
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I find it hilarious reading the comments about Sancho being so much better than Rashford now.

Says who? Sancho is playing in a rubbish league where defences are incredibly naive and push up all the time. Who's to say Rashford wouldn't tear it up for Dortmund too. I think he definitely would.

The only fair comparison between the two for now is them both playing for England and Rashford has been easily better of the two. Sancho only has 3 goals in 18 caps doesn't he? 2 of which came in one game.
 

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I find it hilarious reading the comments about Sancho being so much better than Rashford now.

Says who? Sancho is playing in a rubbish league where defences are incredibly naive and push up all the time. Who's to say Rashford wouldn't tear it up for Dortmund too. I think he definitely would.

The only fair comparison between the two for now is them both playing for England and Rashford has been easily better of the two. Sancho only has 3 goals in 18 caps doesn't he? 2 of which came in one game.
Sancho is the shiny new toy if/when we sign him won’t be long before you see threads popping up saying how we wasted 80 mil on him.

If Sancho replicates his early season form from this season guarantee it’ll be rough for the lad.

We kinda saw it with Greenwood this year too, he had a stinker of a season for about 70% of it and the threads started. Scores a few goals and has 3-4 decent games and he’s back to being “generational”
 

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Sancho is the shiny new toy if/when we sign him won’t be long before you see threads popping up saying how we wasted 80 mil on him.

If Sancho replicates his early season form from this season guarantee it’ll be rough for the lad.

We kinda saw it with Greenwood this year too, he had a stinker of a season for about 70% of it and the threads started. Scores a few goals and has 3-4 decent games and he’s back to being “generational”
Exactly.

Sancho hasn't dazzled me once in an England shirt where as Rashford has many times for the national team albeit hes not for a while.

Teams sit back against us these days as they are petrified of our pace. Sancho won't get anywhere near the amount of space he does in Germany. Our transfer Muppet fans don't understand this though.

Put Rashford in the Bundesliga and he'd get even better numbers than he does here. The defending is shocking. Hardly anyone parks the bus
 

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Exactly.

Sancho hasn't dazzled me once in an England shirt where as Rashford has many times for the national team albeit hes not for a while.

Teams sit back against us these days as they are petrified of our pace. Sancho won't get anywhere near the amount of space he does in Germany. Our transfer Muppet fans don't understand this though.

Put Rashford in the Bundesliga and he'd get even better numbers than he does here. The defending is shocking. Hardly anyone parks the bus
Agree. Rashford can be overrated in here sometimes, but at the moment he's very underrated by many because of his inconsistent style of play. He has scored and assisted so many goals during the last two seasons, yet a lot of fans are not satisfied and are still questioning him heavily. The expectations are ridicioulos high (as it should be at a topclub i agree to some extend)

Some people in here would really sell Rashford to buy Grealish, which I really can't understand. We need additions to Rashford, not replacing him. If we would do this, I'm sure the same people would hammer Grealish for not winning us the title immediately or for providing less output than Rashford.
 

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Exactly.

Sancho hasn't dazzled me once in an England shirt where as Rashford has many times for the national team albeit hes not for a while.

Teams sit back against us these days as they are petrified of our pace. Sancho won't get anywhere near the amount of space he does in Germany. Our transfer Muppet fans don't understand this though.

Put Rashford in the Bundesliga and he'd get even better numbers than he does here. The defending is shocking. Hardly anyone parks the bus
Sancho doesn't need space to excel but rather movement around him. Sancho is a player who is similar to Franck Ribery in profile and would potentially be key to unlocking teams who defend deep.
 

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Rashford has a problem similar to Mbappe where their overall game isn't very refined, but they can deliver moments and goals. I wouldn't hesitate to swap him with Grealish or Sancho. We need them much more than we need Rashford (or even Mbappe).
 

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Do people realise Rashford jumped a whole level of youth football to play in the first team and has been in it since?

Most young players develop through the different age groups and are nurtured through until they are ready. He was just thrust straight into the first team having I think 8 youth games. None in the under 23s.

Is it any wonder his form can be patchy at times? He's still developing like it or not.
 

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Do people realise Rashford jumped a whole level of youth football to play in the first team and has been in it since?

Most young players develop through the different age groups and are nurtured through until they are ready. He was just thrust straight into the first team having I think 8 youth games. None in the under 23s.

Is it any wonder his form can be patchy at times? He's still developing like it or not.
I think he did play U23 games the season he was called up to the first team.
 

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I think the point is he's missed whole levels of education in that regard and was thrown straight in to the men's game. It's pretty unheard of.
Yeah I don’t disagree, I see some people use the fact that he’s been playing first team football from such a young age as a stick to beat him with but in reality, he’s not been afforded the same nurturing that most young players get.
 
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