What makes you think I hate Hamilton? I'm a Verstappen fan obviously, but I don't hate Hamilton at all. I think he's a fantastic driver, one of the best ever. I don't however think he's some kind of saint who can do no wrong like many on here seem to do. And I don't see why me thinking Hamilton wasn't DOTD (which is in line with the results of the poll btw) makes you think I hate him? Bit weird that
Max could have been out of sight.
Fair play. I’ve just seen a lot of negative posts from you about him since silverstone. I’ve obviously read your support of Max as dislike of Lewis. ApologiesWhat makes you think I hate Hamilton? I'm a Verstappen fan obviously, but I don't hate Hamilton at all. I think he's a fantastic driver, one of the best ever. I don't however think he's some kind of saint who can do no wrong like many on here seem to do. And I don't see why me thinking Hamilton wasn't DOTD (which is in line with the results of the poll btw) makes you think I hate him? Bit weird that
imagine if us united fans got chastised for booing an ex pool player playing for a midtable team let alone actual pool players
yeah I read that also, both wife and I have had it.
No worries, I can see where you're coming from as I have been hard on Hamilton at times for sure (usually when emotions run high and I'll admit the bad luck Max has had this season hasn't helped
) but I don't hate him at all. I'm not sure I like him either (sometimes I do, sometimes I don't) but he's a fantastic driver no doubt about it. Apart from the Lewis/Merc brain fart today with the intermediates which was probably 50/50 between him and the team, he had a good race. I just think Ocon was faultless really and Alonso did brilliantly to keep Lewis behind him as long as he did so that's why I have Lewis as #3 DOTD-wise today.I have normally found your posts pretty balanced, just like the match day thread, posts get posted in the heat, its understandable.No worries, I can see where you're coming from as I have been hard on Hamilton at times for sure (usually when emotions run high and I'll admit the bad luck Max has had this season hasn't helped
That would be shite to have that taken away on a technicality, yeah. The Aston crew looked almost as made up with their second place finish as the Alpine lot did with their win.
If its true then ,he will be DQ'd its the rules, cant alter them.
There are certainly arguments for Ocon, Alonso and Hamilton for DOTD today. I think ocon probably edges it just because it’s his first win and he did well to keep Vettel behind. Same with Alonso, keeping Hamilton behind him prevented him winning the race IMO. I think the track helps both of their races though whereas it hinders what Hamilton was trying to achieve, so as @pauldyson1uk says, from dead last to third, on that track, that’s some drive.No worries, I can see where you're coming from as I have been hard on Hamilton at times for sure (usually when emotions run high and I'll admit the bad luck Max has had this season hasn't helped
Brilliant
I didnt think Hamilton made mistakes in the final two corners, but its what alonso has been quoted as saying. Yes alonso made a mistake locking up, but i think alonso was trying to say that when hamilton finally got the last two corners hooked up in a way that got him closer to alonso, alonso had to defend more and therefore locked up his front tyre in doing so. Max did something similar to Danny Ric a few laps earlier.
I think Alonso is being pretty modest but Rosberg was saying it in commentary too in fairness. Although Hamilton would have passed first attempt if Kimi didn’t appear from the pit lane! Ultimately that’s what cost Hamilton the win.
Probably more to do with the fact that Hamilton and his (English) fans were called classless and arrogant for celebrating at Silverstone. I think it’s considered pretty classless to boo someone all week when he’s getting interviewed. Especially after a really hard, fun race.
So lucky.
That old myth still being pedaled out even now then.
I also think the booing is lame, but just to add that, for Verstappen fans, this wasn't a hard, fun race. It was a disappointing race in which their guy was crashed out of serious contention right at the start because of a mistake by a driver from their main competitor's team.
Pot luck by the sounds of it. As to who gets long term symptons.
Very stupid many of those rules. Bottas got what 5 grid pen? Joke of a sport thanks to rules.. Is there any other sport that has changed their rules as often as F1 has?
Was that just a team mistake? Not enough fuel? Or not enough fuel saving at the end maybe. He was pushing all race I guess.
| Position | Driver | Number | Team | Grid | Pits | Fastest Lap | Race Time | PTS |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Esteban Ocon | 31 | Alpine | 8 | 3 | 1:21.421 | 2:04:43.1992 | 25 |
| 2 | Lewis Hamilton | 44 | Mercedes | 1 | 4 | 1:18.715 | 2.736 behind | 18 |
| 3 | Carlos Sainz Jnr | 55 | Ferrari | 15 | 3 | 1:21.423 | 15.018 behind | 15 |
| 4 | Fernando Alonso | 14 | Alpine | 9 | 3 | 1:20.359 | 15.651 behind | 12 |
| 5 | Pierre Gasly | 10 | AlphaTauri | 5 | 4 | fastest overall lap 1:18.394 | 1:03.614 behind | 10 |
| 6 | Yuki Tsunoda | 22 | AlphaTauri | 16 | 3 | 1:22.450 | 1:15.803 behind | 8 |
| 7 | Nicholas Latifi | 6 | Williams | 18 | 3 | 1:22.831 | 1:17.910 behind | 6 |
| 8 | George Russell | 63 | Williams | 17 | 3 | 1:22.112 | 1:19.094 behind | 4 |
| 9 | Max Verstappen | 33 | Red Bull | 3 | 5 | 1:20.945 | 1:20.244 behind | 2 |
| 10 | Kimi Raikkonen | 7 | Alfa Romeo | 13 | 4 | 1:21.518 | 1 lap behind | 1 |
| 11 | Daniel Ricciardo | 3 | McLaren | 11 | 3 | 1:22.802 | 1 lap behind | 0 |
| 12 | Mick Schumacher | 47 | Haas | 20 | 3 | 1:22.711 | 1 lap behind | 0 |
| 14 | Antonio Giovinazzi | 99 | Alfa Romeo | 14 | 5 | 1:22.736 | 1 lap behind | 0 |
| DQ | Sebastian Vettel | 5 | Aston Martin | 10 | 3 | 1:21.459 | 1.859 behind | 0 |
| not classified | Nikita Mazepin | 9 | Haas | 19 | 2 | not available- | did not finish completed 3 lapS | 0 |
| not classified | Lando Norris | 4 | McLaren | 6 | 1 | not available- | did not finish completed 2 laps | 0 |
| not classified | Valtteri Bottas | 77 | Mercedes | 2 | 0 | not available- | did not finish completed 0 laps | 0 |
| not classified | Sergio Perez | 11 | Red Bull | 4 | 0 | not available- | did not finish completed 0 lapS | 0 |
| not classified | Charles Leclerc | 16 | Ferrari | 7 | 0 | not available- | did not finish completed 0 laps | 0 |
| not classified | Lance Stroll | 18 | Aston Martin | 12 | 0 | not available- | did not finish completed 0 lapS | 0 |
This rules has been in for many years , Lewis has been penalised himself 2012 I think Spain, its not new, all the teams know about it.
I do wonder whether I notice the lucky breaks Hamilton gets more than other drivers because he is so good.
No lean fuel mixture available either to compensate if you push too much.
