i mean it’s pretty simple. Most decent human beings want to avoid catching a disease which can easily be spread to someone vulnerable. Or if you do catch the disease minimise the chances of going to hospital and taking a bed away from someone more vulnerable.
Obvious bait.
Not obvious at all. This viewpoint is far from uncommon. I'm actually surprised there aren't more people spouting this shit on here.
I wouldn't take medical information from an annonymous source on a forum, no matter how informed they appear.
Not intrinsically, but medicating is generally not as effective as planning. Best to let them know in advance, and go at a quiet time fast in, fast out. Takes 5 minutes out of the car total. (They'll genreally let you wait round the back or in the car post dose if you explain)
I mean, China built several new hospitals in a year, but you're right about staff.
Ferguson’s an absolute weapon, he always grossly over exaggerates in his modelling and his predictions absolutely are dangerous.
That summer long lockdown you had when it was crystal clear (I argued this at the time and was once again shot down from all sides) this thing was seasonal was a massive feck up to the tune of billions that should have been spent on the health service and not least by giving all healthcare workers a massive “pandemic pay rise”.
a) We didn’t have a summer long lockdown
It’s worse than that. Their report shows that it’s less severe but because the average age skews young they’re saying you have to ignore that and assume it isn’t less severe.
It will be better to keep an eye on hospital figures for London rather than nationally as that is where the virus is much more widespread. The rest of the country will lag behind the capital for a short while. I checked yesterday and I think the London hospital figures have been increasing a bit lately. Will be interesting to see where they are in a week's time.
None at all. I did for my first two jabs.
a) fair enough, I was under the impression you had the hospitality sector and other areas of society closed for a large part of last year, and a good bit into the Summer.
I feel like there is something I am missing with him. He has been hated on all throughout the pandemic but still anything he says is headline news. Is he right or do we just want someone (extra) to hate?
People didn’t need to listen to his none peer reviewed model back in March 2020 so it’s not really his fault, Anders Tegnell was instantly super critical of the model back in March 2020 as not lining up with the data from Italy and China.
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I’m not claiming they did
Which is what I remember Tegnell also claiming back in March 2020 when asked about the report.
I’m not saying this will happen but surely hospitalisations will take a few weeks on from now to increase. End of November was 40k a day, we’ve been at double that for five days now. To get an accurate read on hospitalisations it probably won’t be reflected until the new year?
Yep. We'll get an idea from London next week.
The third dose triggers your body to make a fresh batch of antibodies. They'll hang around for a few months, and should be able to kill off attempted new infections quickly - ideally before the virus gets chance to spread.
That’s a really good post on the current situation.
it's more like 0.8%I’m not claiming they did
The March 2020 model did claim the UK could see 500,000 deaths without strong measures, which is almost 8% of the population and quite clearly massively over exaggerated. I mean, he said himself in an interview that..
Which is what I remember Tegnell also claiming back in March 2020 when asked about the report.
It wasn't exaggerated. It was a warning about what would happen, and happen shockingly fast if we did nothing.
The only caveat I'd point out is that I've still not seen a proper response from government or health officials about how a covid death is counted. If they really are reporting on people dying within 28 days of a positive test then you can knock that 150k down significantly.
Too late it is. Waste your words you do. Dark said Yoda has joined
Because logically the more it spreads the more will end up hospitalised. In a health service which is already straining
I've just been looking to attain a Thor style body naturally through my much reduced physical activity this last two years. I'm almost up to his level now and I reckon I can give it a good push to match his physique over Christmas.Hard lockdown incoming tonight in the Netherlands. There goes my push to go to the gym 5 times a week until I look like Thor
I don't think anyone has that data (even if some vaccine groups might look at neutralisation titres in the future) - I've certainly seen nothing published. We're still waiting for data on the more common scenarios.
Unsurprising though a little disappointing. I found it really interesting that SARS+ Single mRNA was so effective vs covid and hoped some research may be developing on that front.
Yep. They're less likely to be infected and less likely to pass it on. The calculations will need to get redone for Omicron, and that will take weeks, but it's not an odd assumption.
Thank you!
