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Thats in Amsterdam and rightly deserved, should have shot them.
No. I mean shot themHe just means vaccine shot them.
Definitely good news. Always though there was more to it then just neutralising antibody assays/studies.Good news about memory cell response to Omicron
https://www.theguardian.com/austral...antibodies-fail-to-australian-researchers-say
The voice of reason everybody.Thats in Amsterdam and rightly deserved, should have shot them.
In terms of antibody response, it is slightly better than having a booster (double vax+infection >= double+booster)Between 2 people A and B, both fully vaccinated, if person B has been exposed to the virus(but did not contract it), will they have better immunity the next time of exposure on average, compared to person A?
I did too, Stan. It will pass. It was a little more bearable than the second shot but that might just be down to me expecting it with the booster. Take a couple of ibuprofen if you can and you'll feel the aches and pains a lot less.I feel like shit after microchip 3
That's a smart plan, Popper. Good luck!Being strategic, I've put off having the booster til I'm back at work.
Half day off to have the shot and legit reason to ring in sick for 2 days after, yeah my motivation to work is at an all time low, but I went nowhere over xmas.
I've had the worst reaction to previous shots to anyone I know - wrecked for 24 hours after the first, good for nothing for 48 hours after the second, so I'm expecting similar after the third, I'd rather do it on paid time than leave.
I'll book it tomorrow, my 6 year olds getting jabbed on Friday, I've much more irrational anxiety about that.
To be honest, it gave me the perfect excuse to just avoid absolutely all family members over the break, which suits my antisocial arse just fine.That's a smart plan, Popper. Good luck!
Sounds nice.To be honest, it gave me the perfect excuse to just avoid absolutely all family members over the break, which suits my antisocial arse just fine.
Added bonus, I just did a shitload of hunting for 2 weeks (feck all pheasants around this winter ).
I'll get boosted this week and will then, unfortunately have no excuse to avoid family commitments , but you can be damn sure I'll get 2 more paid sick days out of it.
Excellent as it means your immune system is working well.I feel like shit after microchip 3
Go to Settings -> Windows Update -> Check For UpdatesI feel like shit after microchip 3
Wow. What do you need the Green Pass to be able to do?Italy is making vaccination mandatory for all employees. Previously, people could show negative tests.
This means that the Green Pass with proof of vaccination or recent recovery from Covid is basically required for absolutely everything here now.
They have backed down on that now. It will be confirmed today but as a compromise they are talking about mandatory vaccination for over 50s/60s and for any employee who has contact with the public.Italy is making vaccination mandatory for all employees. Previously, people could show negative tests.
This means that the Green Pass with proof of vaccination or recent recovery from Covid is basically required for absolutely everything here now.
Are Italy really gonna continue attempting to vaccinate their entire population every 6 months for eternity? What is their end game hereItaly is making vaccination mandatory for all employees. Previously, people could show negative tests.
This means that the Green Pass with proof of vaccination or recent recovery from Covid is basically required for absolutely everything here now.
Same here. All my friends taking their shots with no side affects at all and I had the worst headache I've ever expierenced for about 48 hours. I had both doses of Moderna, what was yours? I'm trying to get boostered with Pfizer now and am hoping that'll make a difference (for me).Being strategic, I've put off having the booster til I'm back at work.
Half day off to have the shot and legit reason to ring in sick for 2 days after, yeah my motivation to work is at an all time low, but I went nowhere over xmas.
I've had the worst reaction to previous shots to anyone I know - wrecked for 24 hours after the first, good for nothing for 48 hours after the second, so I'm expecting similar after the third, I'd rather do it on paid time than leave.
I'll book it tomorrow, my 6 year olds getting jabbed on Friday, I've much more irrational anxiety about that.
Sigh. I’m all in favour of upsetting malignant anti-vaxxers but the unvaccinated are a broad church. Seems nuts to try and win people round with a strategy that has a stated aim of pissing people off.France has basically decided to ban the unvaxxed from all entertainment/hospitality locations. Macron describes the strategy as, "to piss off the unvaxxed."
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ovid-strategy-is-to-piss-off-the-unvaccinated
It seems almost unfeasible in the short term to have every employee be vaccinated, some simply won't and either won't work or their boss just ignores it and let's them work.They have backed down on that now. It will be confirmed today but as a compromise they are talking about mandatory vaccination for over 50s/60s and for any employee who has contact with the public.
Macron and Draghi are getting closer all the time over their vaccine strategy. Since the rules started to get punitive on the unvaccinated Italy's per capita vaccine rate has overtaken it's peers and the death rate has dropped right down from amongst the highest of Europe's main countries. The policy is working.France has basically decided to ban the unvaxxed from all entertainment/hospitality locations. Macron describes the strategy as, "to piss off the unvaxxed."
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ovid-strategy-is-to-piss-off-the-unvaccinated
There aren't that many unvaccinated left, certainly not amongst the regular workforce. We've got 1 in a company of 150 people. Many of the unvaccinated are self employed and in the grey economy.It seems almost unfeasible in the short term to have every employee be vaccinated, some simply won't and either won't work or their boss just ignores it and let's them work.
I would imagine many businesses simply couldn't just replace the workers who can't work, at least not on short-term notice.
Macron is an idiot, we can whole heartedly agree on that. But if he is going to try a hair brained scheme to save France's economy then this isn't the worst idea. He is targeting voluntary anti vaxxers, not those that can't be vaccinated (they have an exemption pass right?). He is pretty much saving some of their lives too without them realising or appreciating it, not that he's too concerned if they live or die at this point.Sigh. I’m all in favour of upsetting malignant anti-vaxxers but the unvaccinated are a broad church. Seems nuts to try and win people round with a strategy that has a stated aim of pissing people off.
To be fair pissing off the unvaccinated will either persuade them to get vaxxed or piss them off - which can't be a bad thingSigh. I’m all in favour of upsetting malignant anti-vaxxers but the unvaccinated are a broad church. Seems nuts to try and win people round with a strategy that has a stated aim of pissing people off.
All that matter is whether this tactic is more likely to persuade vaccine ambivalent people (the hardened anti-vaxxers are a lost cause) to get vaccinated than a more conciliatory approach. Which I’m not convinced about. Even the exact same tactic without openly stating he’s trying to piss people off would surely be more helpful?To be fair pissing off the unvaccinated will either persuade them to get vaxxed or piss them off - which can't be a bad thing
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Probably even though I like the idea of pissing them off.All that matter is whether this tactic is more likely to persuade vaccine ambivalent people (the hardened anti-vaxxers are a lost cause) to get vaccinated than a more conciliatory approach. Which I’m not convinced about. Even the exact same tactic without openly stating he’s trying to piss people off would surely be more helpful?
Yep, the reaction of people to hearing, "to piss you off," is typically to want to piss off the person saying it.All that matter is whether this tactic is more likely to persuade vaccine ambivalent people (the hardened anti-vaxxers are a lost cause) to get vaccinated than a more conciliatory approach. Which I’m not convinced about. Even the exact same tactic without openly stating he’s trying to piss people off would surely be more helpful?
View it in the context of the situation France finds itself in.Yep, the reaction of people to hearing, "to piss you off," is typically to want to piss off the person saying it.
It also sends us back to the question of who isn't getting vaccinated and why. Like you say, there's not much hope of winning over the anti-vaxxers. But once you've done enough to capture the "can't be bothered" group, whether by campaigning, peer pressure or limited use of vaccine/test passes - you've got to dig deeper.
Some of the fears are very real. I've read the stats on pregnancy, covid and vaccines - but I can understand the women who get scared. I've read the stats on adverse reactions, but I understand why some people who are suspicious of authority (maybe due to past bad experiences, sometimes including bad experiences with healthcare) feel like they may be being conned. I think the needles are scarcely even noticeable but I know people get scared to the point where they hyper-ventilate or feint - and may even be ashamed to explain it in front of a queue in a vaccine centre.
Telling them that you're doing it to piss them off - really doesn't help. In fact it may scare them more.