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Wow, good thing I don't spend too much time checking in. Can't believe this thread even exists.
If literally any other player in the league (or world frankly) had been in such "bad form" for past two years that they had only got 32 goals & 21 assists despite playing clearly injured for half the time we'd be saying how great they are.1. He's been in "bad form" for around two successive years now. I don't think fans are impatient for losing hope.
To be fair, ASM has offered more than Rashford for over a year now. ASM has improved just as much as Rashford has regressed. How long does a player remain "out of form". Rashford's been poor for a couple of years now.Wow, good thing I don't spend too much time checking in. Can't believe this thread even exists.
Not knocking Saint-Maximin, good player, I like him, but that's his level both in club tier and ceiling.To be fair, ASM has offered more than Rashford for over a year now. ASM has improved just as much as Rashford has regressed. How long does a player remain "out of form". Rashford's been poor for a couple of years now.
Yup. An absolutely staggering amount of bad takes.Wow, good thing I don't spend too much time checking in. Can't believe this thread even exists.
Meanwhile he’s being compared to players who get like 5 assists and 2 goals. Bad form or not, without rashford we would not have made top 4.If literally any other player in the league (or world frankly) had been in such "bad form" for past two years that they had only got 32 goals & 21 assists despite playing clearly injured for half the time we'd be saying how great they are.
Heck he's being compared to Saint-Maximin ffs, very talented player btw, who has barely beaten that throughout his whole career so far.
Do you even read?Talks about winger/wing forward and calls him rubbish striker, and this is the problem with Anit-Rashford club.
So why isn't Barca or Bayern going for him?To be fair, ASM has offered more than Rashford for over a year now. ASM has improved just as much as Rashford has regressed. How long does a player remain "out of form". Rashford's been poor for a couple of years now.
Only strikers are judged on goals? What are wide forwards supposed to do? Go to byline and whip in crosses? Shame they didn't know that and scored goals.Do you even read?
My point was exactly that. He's not a good enough striker for people to focus so much on his goals and he doesn't warrant a starting place (even a sub) in the position.
Since he is predominantly a wing player, he needs to show he can be creative and contribute to the build-up.
All this talk about goals is pointless if he is to start a game in a position where Martial would be better right now.
And talking about stats is great but he's barely got an assist this year. I am not a 'hater' (pathetic term which instantly shows me lack of desire to use your brain by anyone using it btw), I am frustrated he's had no development in 2 years and somehow he's seen as a messiah and the new face of United.
Bang onNot knocking Saint-Maximin, good player, I like him, but that's his level both in club tier and ceiling.
Lots of time-inflation in how situations are appraised.
- Two seasons ago we were playing largely as a counter-attacking side, right up his street.
- Last season we ran him into the ground when he was evidently injured. Even then, only Bruno earned us more points with his contributions. I ran that a few months ago, two points for goal/assist of winning goal, one for draw, adjusted for playing time it was 1. Bruno, 2. Rashford, 3. Pogba, 4. Cavani.
- Amid injuries and, we now hear, personal life issues we did start seeing him a bit off and running into blind alleys.
- This season, coming back from injury, having lost his footing in the England setup and just called upon for penos, with the team in disarray, he has been a bit crap.
- Shit happens, take a chill pill. He'll be back, he is significantly more talented than fecking Adama Traore and Allan Saint-Maximin.
A little harsh concerning ASM's ceiling and club tier but I gotta agree with the restNot knocking Saint-Maximin, good player, I like him, but that's his level both in club tier and ceiling.
Lots of time-inflation in how situations are appraised.
- Two seasons ago we were playing largely as a counter-attacking side, right up his street.
- Last season we ran him into the ground when he was evidently injured. Even then, only Bruno earned us more points with his contributions. I ran that a few months ago, two points for goal/assist of winning goal, one for draw, adjusted for playing time it was 1. Bruno, 2. Rashford, 3. Pogba, 4. Cavani.
- Amid injuries and, we now hear, personal life issues we did start seeing him a bit off and running into blind alleys.
- This season, coming back from injury, having lost his footing in the England setup and just called upon for penos, with the team in disarray, he has been a bit crap.
- Shit happens, take a chill pill. He'll be back, he is significantly more talented than fecking Adama Traore and Allan Saint-Maximin.
The same reasons bayern or barca aren't going for Rashford? Both not good enough?So why isn't Barca or Bayern going for him?
Very lazy comparison. ASM plays for a team who are dog shite and create nothing virtually every game unless he does something. Rashford plays in a team which creates considerably more opportunities than ASM's team.Meanwhile he’s being compared to players who get like 5 assists and 2 goals. Bad form or not, without rashford we would not have made top 4.
A tad harsh indeed, he is better than Newcastle and at 24 can still improve, let alone in better company.A little harsh concerning ASM's ceiling and club tier but I gotta agree with the rest
Nah, Rashford was linked plenty before. His ceiling is 10 times higher. Fair enough if you think ASM is a little better now, I'm just not seeing what some of you are, same with Traore. They are easy on the eyes, but you act like they are a tier below the Manes with the right coaching.The same reasons bayern or barca aren't going for Rashford? Both not good enough?
I don't think there's any chance Bayern would have any interest in Rashford and even Barca in their current state probably wouldn't be interested.Nah, Rashford was linked plenty before. His ceiling is 10 times higher. Fair enough if you think ASM is a little better now, I'm just not seeing what some of you are, same with Traore. They are easy on the eyes, but you act like they are a tier below the Manes with the right coaching.
Not going to lie, being in form and scoring 43 goals and 27 assists, I will take that!1. He's been in "bad form" for around two successive years now. I don't think fans are impatient for losing hope.
2. Being in "bad form" means that you try harder off the ball to compensate for your mediocrity, it doesn't mean swanning around like you are a Messi/Maradona hybrid without bothering to press or track runners. His refusal to even try to go for the rebound against Villa was genuinely an insult to the fans.
That being said, I was much happier with his off the ball work ethic today. Long may that continue.
The frustration of the past few months has resulted in the creation of a lot of crazy threads indeedA tad harsh indeed, he is better than Newcastle and at 24 can still improve, let alone in better company.
But he is not world class/top club material, just the sort of valuable midtable club forward who can be a right handful on his day. Doesn't belong anywhere near a comparison with Rashford.
Like constantly crowing about his goals and assists with no discussion about how overall woeful he's been or that he doesn't like to do something as basic as pass the ball when facing 3 defenders?The frustration of the past few months has resulted in the creation of a lot of crazy threads indeed
I genuinely have no idea why you quoted me tbhLike constantly crowing about his goals and assists with no discussion about how overall woeful he's been or that he doesn't like to do something as basic as pass the ball when facing 3 defenders?
If Rashford has been so good, I wonder why his PR army has been so happy to throw OGS under the bus for not improving him? He's feeling the heat because he's no longer a talent, he's supposed to be the real deal.
He needs to improve or we need to look to other options for our starting 11.
I enjoyed this.Saint Maximin and Traore are both better. If either of them played for an actual top club, they would run riot imo
Well, if you look at Dennis Law, then I'm sure not that well.I'd be interested to see how Rashford plays once his epxlosiveness deserts him entirely
They are nothing alike as players. Rashford is great at running into space behind the defence. Traore doesn't do that, at ASM doesn't have the top speed to pull that off - great acceleration, but he's not that fast over distance, is he? ASM and Traore have that power, close control and dribbles that will always amaze the crowd, but ultimately neither of them produce the goods. In that respect, they are night and day. Rashford is at his best when he just runs with the ball as defenders cannot keep up with him with or without the ball. Both Traore and ASM are quicker off the mark, and Traore probably also in terms of top speed, but Rashford cutting in from the left causes all sorts of problems for defences. Him running in behind always causes problems both because of his speed and his timing. I don't the the other two offering that element in their game at all.Nah, Rashford was linked plenty before. His ceiling is 10 times higher. Fair enough if you think ASM is a little better now, I'm just not seeing what some of you are, same with Traore. They are easy on the eyes, but you act like they are a tier below the Manes with the right coaching.
I swear you must only watch these 2 against us and other big teams where they have space to run. They haven't even reached the level of Zaha at his best for palace.Saint Maximin and Traore are both better. If either of them played for an actual top club, they would run riot imo
I dont think anyone would argue that Rashford isnt a better goalscorer but comparing a player of Manchester United to one of Newcastle United on goals scored isnt fair at all obviously.In total, ASM has Scored 12 goals in 79 matches and Rashford has scored 93 in 288 matches. Let that sink in. A lad who has scored 12 goals as the main freaking attacking man in a club. I know he has played less no. Of matches but it is pure common sense to deduce that ASM isn't on the same level as Rashford.
Rashford scored that Ice Cold penalty in Paris for instance. He has been a match winner for us on numerous occasion. What the feck has ASM done since 2019.
A few months off form and this is what we do to our players.
God. Only us United fans will degrade and downgrade our players like this.
Rashford had to carry our attack in 2019/2020 until he got his back injury and he reached his so far career peak form doing it.Bowen was another name I mentioned in this category of mud table type players who are one of the better players at their club and carry a lot of the attack, something Rashford doesn't have to do in the slightest which helps him. But Bowen has looked really good for West Ham in general, but particularly these last few weeks he's been a thorn in the side of many teams.
If he had the likes of Bruno, Ronaldo, Cavani arrive him to also occupy defences and give him less attention from defenders, I think he would look good here too.