Labour retain control of my local council for the fourth election in a row which according to local reports is the first time that's happened. Tories and the Green Party sent out NIMBY leaflets against the Labour council building projects for housing on 'green belt' land.
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Haven't they already done so?
In a bid to try to get away from the “metropolitan elite” tag, Labour electing the current mayor of Manchester as leader would be very predictable and funny.
Surely Starmer is fecked now?
If the police rule that he broke the rules I don't see how he can stay in the job after calling for Boris to resign for breaking said rules.
If the police rule that he broke the rules I don't see how he can stay in the job after calling for Boris to resign for breaking said rules.
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All the while Boris stays as PM, why??
Of course there has been no collusion between No.10 and Durham police. None at all.
This should be very concerning to all of us the path that this far right fascist govt is taking the UK.
It's yet again further evidence that the media along with many influences inside institutions which shouldn't have any political influence are now being used by the Tories to control the narrative.
This investigating starmer stuff is no different to what Putin does to any of his political opponents who are threat to his position. Make shit up, get the police to investigate and control the media machine and what gets reported.
IF Starmer is found to have breached rules and gets fine then he should announce a joint resignation; him and Boris go together or not at all.
For what it’s worth some on Twitter making a good point that this is the same Durham police force who decided against investigating Cummings citing a policy of “not investigating retrospective offences”.
Because he tells the gullible electorate that Britain is the best at everything and that's all they want to hear, whether it's true or not.
There is no reason for Starmer to resign no matter the outcome, if Boris doesn't.
He has a cult following much like Trump. He can do whatever he wants and he will still keep his job because getting Brexit done supersedes any lies, breaking of laws, any negligence and any accountability.
Aren't the Lib Dems centre right?
Yep.
Police didn't question Dominic Cummings over lockdown breach because of 'his character'
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/police-didnt-question-dominic-cummings-26757981
It would make him guilty of the same offences that he's called for Boris to resign for though and therefore very hypocritical.
Looking forward to a journalist pressing for a reason for this contradiction.
It's quite a big "if". Seems to me the Tories are just pushing this for a reinvestigation to cloud the real issue. They don't need an outcome just some more Daily Mail headlines.
The reality likely being that the Tories had multiple illegal parties during lockdown and Starmer had a gathering after the lockdown rules had eased.
My prediction is that he’s cleared but Durham will run the investigation for as long as possible.
This, end of the day tories have changed the discussion and that is what they wanted. Unfortunately we will all buy it hook line and sinker.
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A lot of the British public, like their American cousins, are great for the salacious stories and distractions.
Get Sue Gray on the case. He will have enough time to retire before the report comes out.
Just get Martin Forde to write it. Got as much chance ever seeing the light of day as his other report.
But Boris is an actual literal criminal right now, this very second, so why should he get to have to stand down and Boris stay on, that makes no sense whatsoever.
I get what you're saying and he wouldn't have to resign. But it'd undermine everything that he's said about it previously and make the whole thing even more of a farce than it currently is. It'd also make anyone who's called for Boris to resign a hypocrite if they didn't ask for the same from Starmer.
I believe Boris should've gone by the way, I think any MP who breaks the law should go, regardless of what that law is/was. How can you have a say in how the country is ran when you don't abide by the counties rules?
Considering Starmer time at the CPS, it would be almost too perfect if his political career ended due to having a few drinks during lockdown.
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If only that penny would drop... Labour has had nothing to say for years... and still has nothing to say to the majority of people living outside the main conurbations that they want to hear; so people generally have been resigned to accepting the devil they know!
Do you not think there is also an element that even if Labour were telling these people exactly what they wanted to hear, the right wing media would just move the goalposts or convince them that this isn't what they want to hear at all?
Well Labour could start by trying that approach, its better than talking to the back of peoples heads.
The media has been (in some cases) ultra-right wing for years, it didn't stop Labour Governments being elected when they had something that chimed with peoples own thoughts and realities of what could be achieved and a plan that people could understand and see had some chance of working. Labour is nowadays all political dogma and/or lofty liberal intellectualism, unfortunately the majority of British people are not interested in dogma nor generally understanding of liberal ideals... i.e. it just goes over their heads!
This is a right wing country. Beginning to think there's nothing the left can do.
Correct. And Corbyn's fecked it for decades.
Having the UK media in their back pocket helps. If we had a functioning media then they wouldn't get away with such transparent manipulations.
Trump got elected when the entire media were against him. People aren't as gullible as you think.
It was already fecked by the UK media and an unquestioning section of the population who buy into the misdirection, then parrot the opinions they are told to have.
Which unquestioning section is this precisely?