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She’s drunk, yes?

The only reason Dorries is anywhere near a ministerial post is her slavish support for Johnson.

She has been a sycophant for years, and was openly in tears when Johnson announced he would not run for leader in 2016. She knows that if anyone else takes charge of the Tory Party, she is the first person to be jettisoned to the backbenches.
 

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The morning of the 1st of June is here and the beloved leader is still in place with no signs of his departure other than the usual "he's under pressure " headlines.
What a man.
 

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The odds on the former Director of Public Prosecutions going into this without being completely sure of his legal standing seems wildly unlikely.
It's far from a black and white interpretation though as they've discretion on these matters.

It's clearly somewhat politicised as their prior DC decisions were. I think at the minimum they'll criticise conduct. Starmer might win a challenge against a FPN but he won't be able to stay as leader during that appeal.
 

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The odds on the former Director of Public Prosecutions going into this without being completely sure of his legal standing seems wildly unlikely.
Tories and lefties both want Starmer gone of course. He's not a particularly likeable person but that does make one warm to him a little. The DPP will drop it, if done quickly it could be the last nail for Johnson.
 

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Tories and lefties both want Starmer gone of course. He's not a particularly likeable person but that does make one warm to him a little. The DPP will drop it, if done quickly it could be the last nail for Johnson.
Fair few centrists as well. Whilst they approve of the work he's done in removing left wing politics from Labour, some of them also harbour desires of getting people to vote Labour and think he's both done and will continue to do a bad job at that.

I'd agree with them. Though personally, having no faith that their project will improve my life even if successful, I mainly want him to have to go cause it'd be funny.
 

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Tories and lefties both want Starmer gone of course. He's not a particularly likeable person but that does make one warm to him a little. The DPP will drop it, if done quickly it could be the last nail for Johnson.
Good, it's way past time that we stopped caring about how likeable or charismatic politicians are. I want boring, detail focused people running the country who I only hear about when there's some big initiative coming out or crisis to be dealt with. Tired of all this celebrity politician bullshit.
 

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Interesting take considering his previous evasions and defences.
Boris's unique politicised antenna is beginning to tell him just how disinterested the majority of the public has become over partygate, it is not that they don't care, they do and at a GE (if he's still PM) he will get clobbered, that is if Labour follows the right playbook, but right now for vast swathes of the British populace it is getting to be like watching a 'Rocky IX' movie.... re-run!
This is especially true when the same things keep getting repeated... but he knows the public has already got it... there was more than one party that Boris put in an appearance at and in most cases he turned a blind eye.

Boris's mind set now seems to be entering a recovery planning phase and if it keeps on like this, he will be able to conjour up a 'carpe diem', situation in that in Britain's darkest Covid hour, having been seriously affected by the virus himself, he battled on; that he returned to the trenches of Government and in turning a blind eye to the breaches of the rules (i.e. the partying) he was really trying to raise the spirits of all those still toiling away in the bowels of No.10!

Is Boris about to get his second wind?
 

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Boris's unique politicised antenna is beginning to tell him just how disinterested the majority of the public has become over partygate, it is not that they don't care, they do and at a GE (if he's still PM) he will get clobbered, that is if Labour follows the right playbook, but right now for vast swathes of the British populace it is getting to be like watching a 'Rocky IX' movie.... re-run!
This is especially true when the same things keep getting repeated... but he knows the public has already got it... there was more than one party that Boris put in an appearance at and in most cases he turned a blind eye.

Boris's mind set now seems to be entering a recovery planning phase and if it keeps on like this, he will be able to conjour up a 'carpe diem', situation in that in Britain's darkest Covid hour, having been seriously affected by the virus himself, he battled on; that he returned to the trenches of Government and in turning a blind eye to the breaches of the rules (i.e. the partying) he was really trying to raise the spirits of all those still toiling away in the bowels of No.10!

Is Boris about to get his second wind?
Him saying he let his government party once a week to raise morale while they were working their cushty Westminster office jobs while NHS front line workers, teachers, public transport operators and the like weren’t allowed to any sort of morale boost and incurred hefty fines when if did, isn‘t the PR win you think it is.
 

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Him saying he let his government party once a week to raise morale while they were working their cushty Westminster office jobs while NHS front line workers, teachers, public transport operators and the like weren’t allowed to any sort of morale boost and incurred hefty fines when if did, isn‘t the PR win you think it is.
No, it probably isn't, but it wont stop Boris trying, especially if the 54 letters don't arrive... Boris sees himself as 'the comeback King' .
 

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It would be interesting to find out the viewing figures over the years.
A friend of mine (in a totally different context) did do some highly restricted research on the viewing figures a short while back, partly it was to do with the pandemic (of course!), but I seem to remember one of the conclusions he (was allowed) to tell me was that it depended on what were the headlines, at the time and how many 'clips' (from PMQ's) were included in the main news broadcasts.
Also there was some correlation with the figures that was thought to indicate when public interest was beginning to wane, the viewing figures dropped off fairly quickly, a point that (I thought) would have probably been obvious, but nevertheless it was included in the research!

My friend said he couldn't tell me anything else.... otherwise he'd have to kill me! :eek:
 

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A friend of mine (in a totally different context) did do some highly restricted research on the viewing figures a short while back, partly it was to do with the pandemic (of course!), but I seem to remember one of the conclusions he (was allowed) to tell me was that it depended on what were the headlines, at the time and how many 'clips' (from PMQ's) were included in the main news broadcasts.
Also there was some correlation with the figures that was thought to indicate when public interest was beginning to wane, the viewing figures dropped off fairly quickly, a point that (I thought) would have probably been obvious, but nevertheless it was included in the research!

My friend said he couldn't tell me anything else.... otherwise he'd have to kill me! :eek:
Why was that. All we are talking about is the BBC viewing figures which you would think would be in the public domain if not public interest. Especially as BBC is funded by the license fee...
Should be no more of a secret than for Question Time should it?
Very strange.
 

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Why was that. All we are talking about is the BBC viewing figures which you would think would be in the public domain if not public interest. Especially as BBC is funded by the license fee...
Should be no more of a secret than for Question Time should it?
Very strange.
I have no idea.
The friend I am talking about is prone to 'secrecy', I have known him 30 odd years, when we first met he worked with advertising agencies and then he moved on, to something else, but I never known for certain what his job is. Although I know he does like to 'hype' things up, over the years his 'tit-bits' (so to speak) have often been confirmed at a later date.

Trouble is he is a big Man City fan, so everything he says I tend to take with a pinch of salt! :rolleyes:
 

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If he goes to a vote of confidence, they have to get rid of him. If they’re stuck with him for the next election they are royally screwed.
 

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If he goes to a vote of confidence, they have to get rid of him. If they’re stuck with him for the next election they are royally screwed.
It will be a hung parliament if he is the leader at the next election. They know it.
The good thing is Boris doesn't give a feck about the party so will try as much as possible to cling on.
 

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It will be a hung parliament if he is the leader at the next election. They know it.
The good thing is Boris doesn't give a feck about the party so will try as much as possible to cling on.
It’ll be a LabLib coalition. What they should do is move to PR over FPTP if that’s the case but they won’t. They will try to govern as a coalition, argue, feck it up and let a Tory majority back in.
 

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Nothing more British than celebrating an unelected head of State, then boo the elected Prime Minister.
If this country had sense, everyone involved would be booed & jeered.
 
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We should be given a vote on the monarchy after the queen dies. Accident of birth isn't a qualification for anything; this isn't the 18th century. We should be able to democratically choose our head of state and the House of Lords. The class system is still with us.
 

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I have no idea.
The friend I am talking about is prone to 'secrecy', I have known him 30 odd years, when we first met he worked with advertising agencies and then he moved on, to something else, but I never known for certain what his job is. Although I know he does like to 'hype' things up, over the years his 'tit-bits' (so to speak) have often been confirmed at a later date.

Trouble is he is a big Man City fan, so everything he says I tend to take with a pinch of salt! :rolleyes:
Very wise.
 

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Nothing wrong with a constitutional monarchy, what we lack is a written constitution, not one based on precedence.
The other European constitutional monarchies have a far lesser reach and power, that is true. I just oppose the herediatry principle in, well, principle. An elected ceremonial head of state has always been my preference, coupled with a codified constitution. But I agree that the codified constitution is the more important of the two.