They fixed 99% of it with their update package in bahrain in the second test i think it was. At the start of the season a few f1 journalists mentioned that they thought RB suspension was this seasons mclaren f-duct and it seems to be that way. I dont know enough about how it is designed or what it does differently.
F1 2022 Season
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For Merc fans!
No its not a Mercedes fault, the entire grid other than RB are suffering from porposing.
Most teams have porpoising sorted. The ones who don't are Mercedes, Ferrari and to a lesser extent Alpine.
And Ferrari have no interest in trying to address it for obvious reasons, since they have the car glued to the floor through the corners.
Will probably see a lot of teams copying RB and McLaren and switching to pull rod suspensions next year.
And Ferrari have no interest in trying to address it for obvious reasons, since they have the car glued to the floor through the corners.
Will probably see a lot of teams copying RB and McLaren and switching to pull rod suspensions next year.
Well the point is it can be rectified without speed compromise. Its not a theoretically unsolvable problem. Also, I think other teams don't have it in exactly the same extreme way such as Merc.
Mercedes = Manchester United.
I would say most teams are handling it better.
It is easy to solve, but means losing speed and Mercedes don't want that obviously. Mercedes have already said they can turn it on and off, maybe they are trying for a happy medium, Ferrari seem to have found that.
RB just don't seem to suffer, is that down to Newey ?
It's early to call but I reckon the WDC will be a scrap between the two RBR drivers which is why they will have to make it fair fight.
You can’t expect them to just change the rules to fix this problem for the teams that are struggling with it, that would be ludicrous.
I agree, its not an FIA problem, its a team problem.
Agreed. Mercedes do seem to suffer from it more severely.
But its an oversight on the FIAs part from the original design. If they want the teams to fix it, get rid of the cost cap for the rest of the season. Let the entire grid fix it properly without compromising thier car setup by running higher ride height than they ideally would. My 2 cents anyway.
Mercedes said they can turn on and off the low frequency porposing which was affecting them up till spain. But not this new high frequency porposing which they didnt expect after spainish gp. I may have the frequencies the wrong way around but the point is the same.
As much as i admire team to be able stick to their princples of a design, there does come a point where they are going to have to make a call and change the sidepod design and suspension for next season.
Some teams have managed to make it work, and the ones who are struggling the worst could easily fix it but it would compromise their speed.
It’s not the FIA’s fault that teams have pushed things to the point that they can’t be fast and stable at the same time.
If fixing the porpoising makes them slower then tough. Tearing up the rule book to solve that issue is entirely unfair to the ones who’ve cracked their designs.
I cany agree with your reasoning, I was expecting them to have this solved by now and to be challenging for poles and race wins, but they are miles off.
I agree if it does not work , then it has to change for next season, but everything I have read Mercedes saying if they can get the bouncing sorted they have a fast car.
apparently Mercedes have damage to the floor on both cars.
If it is for safety reasons then you absolutely can. Drivers have already said they are worried about the long-term health implications of all of the bouncing as it is leaving a lot of them in pain.
OK I can see where you coming from ,what would the FIA do , make them all run at the same hight ?
That would be unfair on those teams that have a handle on the bouncing.
Four drivers having a go at it is fantastic.
Will take a miracle to get Lewis into q3
not 100% getting in to Q2 yet, he is so slow, the bouncing is dreadful, Russell is getting more out of his car.
Yeah Stroll GTF-O
Haha we do love the obligatory Canadian cock up.
RED FLAG Stroll bins it
It's always Stroll or Latifi!
Alfa's green is better than Aston Martin's
The Mercs gonna try and stop the rest getting laps in to save Lewis
If not Latifi then it's Stroll. Can they ever finish one complete race with qualifying without crashing.
Lewis at the head of the queue to get out for the last few mins.
Not a bad strategy to be honest.
No it’s smart, just funny that they’re in this position.
This is gonna be chaos, wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a crash here
Bottas just scrapped it.
OUT in Q1!
16) Kevin Magnussen, Haas
17) Alex Albon, Williams
18) Nicholas Latifi, Williams
19) Lance Stroll, Aston Martin
20) Mick Schumacher, Haas
OUT in Q1!
16) Kevin Magnussen, Haas
17) Alex Albon, Williams
18) Nicholas Latifi, Williams
19) Lance Stroll, Aston Martin
20) Mick Schumacher, Haas
Alonso ruined what could have been an excellent last lap of Q1, gutted we watched Hamilton all the way and not the mad scrap
Is Alonso becoming the new Coulthard?
Have to wonder how Haas manage to be nearest the pit exit but feck it up and be the last out.
Alonso shitehousing again. He's really on a mission to be the bad guy this year.
Albon not happy with Alonso, said he was driving deliberately slow.
I don't think they ever try to enforce a fixed set up solution. I think the best solution would be to allow them to have active suspension for next season.