Imagine the plane taking off with no asylum seekers on it, Priti will spin it as a success. 
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Is this a normal flight taking these folks or is it a plane just for it? With 6 people in it and empty seats?
The European court of human rights has made a dramatic 11th-hour intervention into the government’s controversial plans to send asylum seekers to Rwanda that could ground the inaugural flight to the east African nation.
Lawyers for one of the asylum seekers due to fly at around 9:30pm have made a successful emergency application to the ECHR after exhausting applications to UK courts.
In an initial decision, a letter from the court has stated that the asylum seeker should not be removed on Tuesday evening.
Sources have claimed that the grounds cited apply to all asylum seekers facing removal so all asylum seekers due to board the plane tonight can rely on this decision from the court.
Lawyers for one of the asylum seekers due to fly at around 9:30pm have made a successful emergency application to the ECHR after exhausting applications to UK courts.
In an initial decision, a letter from the court has stated that the asylum seeker should not be removed on Tuesday evening.
Sources have claimed that the grounds cited apply to all asylum seekers facing removal so all asylum seekers due to board the plane tonight can rely on this decision from the court.
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What a mess. Even my grandmother, who knows next to nothing about politics, mentioned this today after watching the news. What a way to feck up your reputation.
No it's a special flight - cost £500k. But apparently the asylum seekers may not be flying.
Instead they've found a criminal gang , identified below, who will replace the asylum seekers on the flight
bit outdated
I do like James O'Brien's show (regardless of whether I agree with him or not), and listen to when I can, including when I'm working.
He is one the best people at clearly and concisely destroying ridiculous and fundamentally false arguments in favour of Brexit, defending the Tory government etc.
During the Brexit paralysis period, it was funny how many Brexiteers and / or right-wingers rush to downvote video clips from his shows on YouTube. They also called him a leftie when Corbyn and him strongly dislike each other.
Don't know what more I can do than quote the guy I am answering and mark with bold the term he uses which is immigrant. You may disagree with me but lets not just pretend I have said "600 000" asylum seekers when I haven't. My point is that for a country being criticized about migration the UK seems fairly open in that regard.
Opinion is divided on the people crossing the channel to enter the UK illegally. Economic migrants or asylum seekers.
Either way I don't think we should be sending them to Rwanda but compared to allowing them to be people trafficked on dinghies across the channel which is the de facto French policy it seems less risky.
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You are still spouting this rubbish, don't you understand anything? It's not the French putting them in dinghies and it's the UK sending them to Rwanda whether they arrive by dinghy or from a hot air balloon or overstay their visa. It's ridiculous.
I'll ask you again are you concerned about the number of asylum seekers crossing the channel or their safety?
One of the asylum seekers:
The Albanian man said: “I was exploited by traffickers in Albania for six months. They trafficked me to France. I did not know which country I was being taken to.”
He said that when he was put on a small boat in northern France he was given to understand that other traffickers would be waiting for him when he arrived in the UK. “I’m in a very bad mental state. I knew nothing about Rwanda. I have never been to Africa and I don’t think it will be safe for me. I can’t return to Albania because the traffickers there will kill me. The only safe place for me is the UK. How can they send an Albanian to Africa?”
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Great news that it's been halted. Another win for the lefty lawyers
They'll be banning lawyers next. Seriously, they will.
Theresa May very kindly offered to limit it to human rights lawyers a while back.
Stop. Just stop now.
Opinion is not ‘divided’. The accepted statistic is that of people arriving by dingy (16-26,000 a year), 88% are granted asylum. So 3000 people illegally entering a country with a population of 65 million. If we let all of them stay… our population increases by 0.004% each year.
To your second point…. Those 16-26 thousand HAVE TO MAKE THE BOAT TRIP BEFORE GETTING SENT TO RWANDA. How is that safer ffs?
Why are you so happy to be conned, wrong, and immune to updating your beliefs based on new facts? It’s mad. Properly mad.
So many people showing their true colours over this issue.
I was on a yacht costing £500k, leather seats and a mini bar, champagne, double beds and TV’s, just off the coast of Portsmouth once. Hardly off the coast. I could practically still see the car park. A storm came in quicker than expected and I thought I was going to die. Yes I was a fanny. No it’s not a metric. But dear god, people desperate enough to get in a DINGHY and cross treacherous waters. Why do these people not garner your sympathy? Why would you not want to help as much as you can, rather than as little as possible?
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No, I appreciate the clarity.
The thread I posted above gave a number of options available to the UK Government, including rejoining the Dublin protocol meaning the asylum seekers could be lawfully returned to France, or even setting up an agreement with the French Government to process asylum claims for the UK on French soil.
But I think it is more accurate to note that Theresa May, when she was Home Secretary, included student numbers within the immigration figures.
In the year ending March 2020, formal study was the most common main reason for immigration (36%), while work was the second most common main reason (32%).
So a third of that immigration figure relates to FE and HE, and is a big economic driver for many cities and towns across the UK. Those students also cannot remain here until they find work (paying over a certain amount) after graduating.
I think it is also sensible to consider net immigration, rather than the headline figure.
In the year ending June 2021 573,000 people migrated into the UK and 334,000 people emigrated from it, leaving net migration figure of 239,000 people.
We also have 1.3 million job vacancies as an economy. That seems to suggest that more migration is needed to fill those skills gaps. But that's a different debate from asylum claims.
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Priti Patel: “the legroom options on the flight show how well these people are being treated, they had the pick of the best seats on the plane”
250 people arrived via the Channel today, 4 may go to Rwanda tomorrow.
Big deterrent.
Big deterrent.
Honestly think this is exactly the result the government were aiming for.
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Hi-vis jackets , eh? Boris must be on the scene
Patel will be seething, the great big massive twat.
Though we’re one step closer to withdrawing from the ECHR, which is probably what they were aiming for.
Though we’re one step closer to withdrawing from the ECHR, which is probably what they were aiming for.
Flights been cancelled.
Pound falling badly, Hungary, breaking international law, and now this and it's only Tuesday.
Yep, can push their agenda even firmer now.
Her parents were economic migrants, they could hop on it.
Watch her majesty's government launch a massive culture war campaign.
Part of me expected them to still do it, with the ‘symbolic’ gesture as the proverbial win.Imagine the plane taking off with no asylum seekers on it, Priti will spin it as a success.
I've not followed this closely but what is meant to happen to those that are successful in their appeal? They are just left in Rwanda and have to arrange travel to the UK themselves?
The Rwanda policy is so farfetched that I reckon it’s only been designed to pick a fight with the ECHR. This government needs its Brexit or it has feck all.
This is the most perverse part for me.
If they get denied asylum Rwanda deport them.
If they get granted asylum, they get asylum in Rwanda and not the UK. They never get a right to return here.
What the feck, so they are effectively just paying Rwanda to take our asylum seekers off our hands then. I thought it was just a shady and dubious way of letting Rwanda handle them on the UK's behalf rather than just moving them on for good.
Off we go!
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I have a feeling more people than you realise are in support of the Rwanada scheme. Ok I'm in my late 20's, scrolling through Instagram and the vast majority are commenting negatively to a lad bible post about the flight. Makes me sick ti se
There's a post on ladbible promoting a false rhetoric that "less 1 in 6 young Brits support the Rwanda scheme." Whilst I'd love for it to be true, unfortunately the comment section is just riddled with young bigots talking about our fellow humans entering the country illegally.
Makes me feel sick to be honest.
2011 was my happiest time here. Coincided with the release of LMFAO's sexy and I know it Good, happy vibes at uni.
There's a post on ladbible promoting a false rhetoric that "less 1 in 6 young Brits support the Rwanda scheme." Whilst I'd love for it to be true, unfortunately the comment section is just riddled with young bigots talking about our fellow humans entering the country illegally.
Makes me feel sick to be honest.2011 was my happiest time here. Coincided with the release of LMFAO's sexy and I know it
Good, happy vibes at uni.Damn those meddling Strasbourg judges and their commitment to human rights. We don't need that here in Blighty.
Here are a bunch of speeches by Churchill talking about the importance of the ECHR and the Council of Europe, showing his true allegiance with lefty lawyers:
https://www.coe.int/en/web/documents-records-archives-information/winston-churchill-and-the-ce
https://www.coe.int/en/web/documents-records-archives-information/winston-churchill-and-the-ce
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