This sort of exercise is usually carried out without the centre backs.He forgot the centre backs
Erik ten Hag - Manchester United manager
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Is that rashford or sancho who's shit at pressing ?
A lot of open training on tours like this.
Can't see that working very well in a game. Does this "ten" Hag know much about kicksphere?
There was a period under Ole when Utd tried to play out from the back. The players couldnt cope with the press and we ended up conceding possession almost every time.
Its going to be mostly the same players so, hopefully, the new manager has been able to perform a miracle.
Its going to be mostly the same players so, hopefully, the new manager has been able to perform a miracle.
I know I know, I was joking
You’d be wrong. Maguire is one of the best CBS in the league on paper regardless of how last season panned out. His career to date suggests that much. Shaw was the best left back in the league just 12 months ago. Fred is an international starter for Brazil and another very good player in the right system. McTominay is the only player that is truly crap. The squad is far stronger than you make out.
That also depends on if Ole coached them how to or told them to just "Play out from the back". I have a feeling he did little coaching
Asking players to play from the back won't do it, players should be trained and every player should move in sync, to create passing options for the player in possession. This is something we were very poor at and it was easy for any decent team to press and win possession.
if kids can learn to play out of the back at a young age these muppets can as well.....it's just simply about repetition and patterns of play
show them solutions but also show them options so they know how to handle situations based on the opposition and how they press
show them solutions but also show them options so they know how to handle situations based on the opposition and how they press
Nah old people are thick as shit, can't teach 'em anything.
Don't @ me people over 35.
We're gonna win the league
Rashford with a header, what is this sorcery ?
We'll see this every time we'll concede next season.
piss off with the old joke....
. i'm over35. we can be stubborn and set in our ways for surekidding aside...thank fuk these guys aren't technically old just yet outside of ronaldo of course
some of the lads just need to have the stones and patience to do it wihtout shitting themselves when slightly pressured
I don’t think these current players are capable of playing out from the back.
With what I saw last season, the slightest bit of pressure on them, makes them crumble.
With what I saw last season, the slightest bit of pressure on them, makes them crumble.
Sancho on the right is interesting..
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Far from it, he's not even the best CB at our club. On paper is not how you judge a player or team.
Shaw is not anywhere near the best left back in the league, he's pretty much been about 50/50 in his United tenure, for every good period there is an equally dreadful period to balance things out, which strangely could be said for the vast majority of our squad. He seems quite mentally soft as well, not exclusive to him by any means, again the vast majority of our lot completely crumble under the slightest bit of pressure both physically and mentally.
Fred I do hold out hope for, I reckon he could do well for ETH.
The squad is atrocious by an large tbh. I'd honestly only keep about 5-6 players, the rest is made up of deadwood and untested youth players (some obviously could make it, but some won't).
I quite enjoyed ETH being quite abrupt with the journos
Remember when he was bought to play on the right and the two managers saw he was better on the left and shifted Rashford to the right where he's useless? Sancho on the right is still comfortably better than Rashford there, so I hope that's what we do going forward.
I would be worried if they didn't.
Jesus! They look like they're struggling.
We never actually setup properly to do this though.
You can see our idea of passing out from the back was;
2 cbs split either side of the goalkeeper. Fullbacks pushed wide and wide.
1 midfielder stood in front of the box with his back to goal. 2 other midfielders high up the pitch.
We'd start by moving the ball to a centre back, who would walk slowly forwards with the ball. They'd stop, then pass back to the keeper. DDG would then look for a forwards pass, realise nobody is there so he'd pass to the fullback.
The fullback is now being heavily pressed, so he turns inside and either passes it back to the cb who hoofs it, or into the lone midfielder.
The midfielder will then try to turn under pressure and loses it, or hoofs it forwards to a lone striker and we lose possession again.
You can pretty much see this pattern in every game we play against a side that knows how to close space.
The most important thing we need to learn is to work as a team and overload midfield with attackers dropping, and making forward runs over the top from deep to stop them pressing further.
Individuals like FDJ who are comfortale with receiving the ball under pressure, then being able to carry it away are vital. Neither Fred or Mctominay are good at this.
That's a good thing as they're all being pushed. It's very hot over there. Kane and Son both collapsed during Spurs' training session in Seoul.Jesus! They look like they're struggling.
"Make triangles, that is football it's always the same principle"
They collapse in most games mate, multiple times.
It's 33 plus humidity over ther
Damn he looks like an intense guy on the training ground. That's good.
Training under ETH looks good. Intense, purposeful. Most importantly look like the players are enjoying it.
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Finally a manager who looks crazy and great at the same time. Seeing this and thinking about Ole’s tenure makes me somewhat cringe a bit.
"come on pass, vibes, vibes heh" can't believe ETH said this
Worrying how much I'm starting to like this guy having not seen his United side play a match.
Must keep hopes and expectations in check at this stage, but there's something so weirdly fascinating about this chap. Almost feels like he's the first football-focussed manager we've had since Fergie. Always felt like Moyes was too busy trying to prove he belonged on this stage. Van Gaal always seemed to be looking for problems. Mourinho was all about Mourinho. Ole was merely happy to be here enjoying the ride. And Ralf, well, I'm not sure anyone knows why Ralf was here.
With Erik it feels like football's finally being prioritised above all else. Love how he has so little to say of importance in his press conferences, yet comes across as a huge personality in the training clips.
Can't wait to see us (attempt to) play his brand of football.
Must keep hopes and expectations in check at this stage, but there's something so weirdly fascinating about this chap. Almost feels like he's the first football-focussed manager we've had since Fergie. Always felt like Moyes was too busy trying to prove he belonged on this stage. Van Gaal always seemed to be looking for problems. Mourinho was all about Mourinho. Ole was merely happy to be here enjoying the ride. And Ralf, well, I'm not sure anyone knows why Ralf was here.
With Erik it feels like football's finally being prioritised above all else. Love how he has so little to say of importance in his press conferences, yet comes across as a huge personality in the training clips.
Can't wait to see us (attempt to) play his brand of football.
Van Gaal was all about the football and was a proper coach (the only other one post Sir Alex), but he was very rigid in his ways, and his style wasn't really accepted by the fans. Way too safe, cautious. We were coached very well though, Rooney would even say he learned tons from him. I just don't think Van Gaal is really made for club football at this point.
Or perhaps we'll find out some of the players aren't actually turds...
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I think our initial performances will be disjointed peppered with some good play. We'll grind out and fluke results with a few draws and defeats. I hope we can see more cohesive performances after the world cup so long as we don't have an injury crisis
I won't deny, I am excited. Even if he doesn't have the players to perfect the way he was to play, over time, he will get those players.
This is why it so vital we have a manager that has a clear identifiable style. It's what Ragnick was talking about. We have to support him.
This is why it so vital we have a manager that has a clear identifiable style. It's what Ragnick was talking about. We have to support him.
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This content is great.
Looks night and day from what we’ve been used to.
Looks night and day from what we’ve been used to.