[Andy_Cole]

They want a manager they can message in WhatsApp... EtH couldn't give a feck about them or their opinions, and that doesn't sit well with them... Boo-hoo, someone grab the violins.

I think this as well. Plus their choice was Pochettino who can’t even get the Villa job.

 

[Raiden Shogun]

It was VERY cringe, almost like some Neymar tribute act and a very poor one at that. He should stop this spinning shit; this is not samba or flair, it's useless, wasteful and is downright embarrassing. Maybe consistently beat your fullback without a safe pass back before the circus tricks come out. If this is the type of winger to lead post-Neymar Brazil... yikes.

I will say it's amusing to see pundits getting pissed though.

 

[RuudTom83]

The spin/trick took around 3 seconds in a match lasting 90 minutes, the only embarrassing thing about it was how utterly over the top the English media has reacted to it.

 

[fallengt]

Hope he spins every match to make boomer pundits seethe. Providing that United win ofcourse.
Id rather hear Scholes rant for 10 minunes straight than listening to his "input".

 

[Stacks]

English pundits don't value flair or skill. They value clattering people and "letting them know you're there". They're usually always wrong about football in general though, just look at what the consensus was with Martinez.

Guillet was right by the way, our ex players don't help with their contributions in the media.

yet another lie. They love skill but also want end product too. Grealish is loved for his skills. They loved when Rooney did flair. Joe Cole too. They creamed over Messi and Ronaldinho every time they seen them play. They loved Hazard, Ginola, Giggs, Bergkamp. You lot are the biggest, liars pushing the fakest narrative here. The skill dudes always get props but the truth is Antony thus far is a "fake skill dude" who ain't really on that in the way we are accustomed to. He might get on it later but then he just might not be a skillful player except in training or with no one near him

 

[Lyng]

yet another lie. They love skill but also want end product too. Grealish is loved for his skills. They loved when Rooney did flair. Joe Cole too. They creamed over Messi and Ronaldinho every time they seen them play. They loved Hazard, Ginola, Giggs, Bergkamp. You lot are the biggest, liars pushing the fakest narrative here. The skill dudes always get props but the truth is Antony thus far is a "fake skill dude" who ain't really on that in the way we are accustomed to. He might get on it later but then he just might not be a skillful player except in training or with no one near him

So they love it when its their own boys doing it? Brexit fc. Antony has had much more impact in his short time at United than Grealish at City so I dont think ti being about end product holds any water.

 

[Poborsky's hair]

Jeezus, the amount of hate he gets for a trick which for me was entertaining and it came really naturally, he released the ball very quickly so it didn't hinder the play. In the days of when football became more pragmatic and athletic, it's actually quite refreshing to see something like this.

Imagine other players trying to control the ball for the same amount of time dwelling on it and doing nothing, same result, only this is just more entertaining.

 

[OleGunnar20]

People don't actually give a shite about this, surely? Economy down the toilet, pending nuclear war - But what about that daft lad with the spins ey.

 

[Stacks]

It was VERY cringe, almost like some Neymar tribute act and a very poor one at that. He should stop this spinning shit; this is not samba or flair, it's useless, wasteful and is downright embarrassing. Maybe consistently beat your fullback without a safe pass back before the circus tricks come out. If this is the type of winger to lead post-Neymar Brazil... yikes.

I will say it's amusing to see pundits getting pissed though.

Brazil ain't the same no more I grew up on Rivaldo, R9, Denilson, Romario, Edmundo, Djalminha, Márcio Amoroso, Robinho, Adriano, Kaka.
Until I see otherwise these current lot are "fake Brazilians" as far as I'm concerned,

 

[Stacks]

So they love it when its their own boys doing it? Brexit fc. Antony has had much more impact in his short time at United than Grealish at City so I dont think ti being about end product holds any water.

had to squeeze in another false narrative huh? Obviously Grealish isn't getting praised right now. More so from his Villa spell when he was doing all the flairy bits like when he flicked it through VVD legs. I liked this.

 

[tomaldinho1]

I think he’s been great to be honest. Works hard, seems clinical when infront of goal and I want him to spin as soon as he gets the ball against WHUM to rile up some of the most miserable posters of all time in here.

 

[Anustart89]

I think he’s been great to be honest. Works hard, seems clinical when infront of goal and I want him to spin as soon as he gets the ball against WHUM to rile up some of the most miserable posters of all time in here.

That would be fecking awesome if he did the spin first time he touches the ball

 

[pratyush_utd]

I think he’s been great to be honest. Works hard, seems clinical when infront of goal and I want him to spin as soon as he gets the ball against WHUM to rile up some of the most miserable posters of all time in here.

That would be glorious. I say make him train with U21 if he doesn’t do it

 

[tomaldinho1]

That would be glorious. I say make him train with U21 if he doesn’t do it

That would be fecking awesome if he did the spin first time he touches the ball

Would be amazing. A solid middle finger to the crock of shite pundits.

 

[meamth]

Jeezus, the amount of hate he gets for a trick which for me was entertaining and it came really naturally, he released the ball very quickly so it didn't hinder the play. In the days of when football became more pragmatic and athletic, it's actually quite refreshing to see something like this.

Imagine other players trying to control the ball for the same amount of time dwelling on it and doing nothing, same result, only this is just more entertaining.

Exactly my thought.

The spin maybe a turn too much, one turn is enough to surprise the defender.

But I'm not even mad, it's when the pundits talking about this made me realize it was "controversial".

 

[kaku06]

This is Luis Diaz ball control. Needless and pointless showboating. Do you hate that too? Where is the outrage then? I never heard these miserable pundits mentioning it once.

 

[Lyng]

had to squeeze in another false narrative huh? Obviously Grealish isn't getting praised right now. More so from his Villa spell when he was doing all the flairy bits like when he flicked it through VVD legs. I liked this.

But the issue wasnt Antony's joga bonita? It was his pass. The move actually worked and gave Case plenty of room to run into

 

[IhabX7]

Hope he does it again in his first possession vs West Ham. Ridiculous how everyone is chipping in on it. The idea that some people are saying they’re ok with him doing it, but are also ok with opposition players kicking him to the stands is nuts. Assaulting a player should never be condoned.

 

[phelans shorts]

Hope he does it again in his first possession vs West Ham. Ridiculous how everyone is chipping in on it. The idea that some people are saying they’re ok with him doing it, but are also ok with opposition players kicking him to the stands is nuts. Assaulting a player should never be condoned.

There’s absolutely nothing wrong with a defending giving an attacker showboating a whack. Just as there’s nothing wrong with an attacker showboating.

 

[iHicksy]

yet another lie. They love skill but also want end product too. Grealish is loved for his skills. They loved when Rooney did flair. Joe Cole too. They creamed over Messi and Ronaldinho every time they seen them play. They loved Hazard, Ginola, Giggs, Bergkamp. You lot are the biggest, liars pushing the fakest narrative here. The skill dudes always get props but the truth is Antony thus far is a "fake skill dude" who ain't really on that in the way we are accustomed to. He might get on it later but then he just might not be a skillful player except in training or with no one near him

Ignoring the fact that this post is a absolute train wreck content wise. You might be taken more seriously if you put in a small amount of effort not to sound like a 14 year old arguing over x-box live.

 

[ROFLUTION]

Scholes used to be my favorite played but he’s acting old and senile here.

any winger needs to practice skills. Also when they come off, they gain confidence, it’s a sharpening of your tool-set as a winger really.

the 720 was filthy.

 

[Vidyoyo]

It feels like our ex players are angry Ten Hag is doing well.

Neville and Rio seem pleased but I think it bothers Scholes and Keane because they've been dining out on their negativity for far too long. It's part of their media character like it became Sounness'.

Edit - Scholes more so as Keane isn't a bad pundit for the most part.

 

[GreatDane]

That makes more sense. I dont have an issue with the skill either, its just that I'm willing to admit I would've been frustrated had we not won. Richarlison's was different, he was wasting time protecting a lead and it frustrated the opponent into lunging at him, which was indeed hilarous.

So the 3 second his spin took would have made the difference between a win or a loss? Tf?

 

[Stacks]

Ignoring the fact that this post is a absolute train wreck content wise. You might be taken more seriously if you put in a small amount of effort not to sound like a 14 year old arguing over x-box live.

So you have no rebuttal? Thanks for your contribution

 

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[RVN1991]

I just don't understand why people find this stuff off-putting. Aren't we all watching football for entertainment purposes after all? It was the same with the seal dribble Nani did a few years ago or Richarlison earlier this season, such a stupid thing to get worked up about, I'd rather see a player do these type of skills than watch some plodder on Bournemouth run around like a headless chicken for 90 minutes even though the latter is seen as putting in a good shift.

 

[GreatDane]

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Funny and also accurate for Ronaldos pace.

 

[AFC NimbleThumb]

Hope he does it again in his first possession vs West Ham. Ridiculous how everyone is chipping in on it. The idea that some people are saying they’re ok with him doing it, but are also ok with opposition players kicking him to the stands is nuts. Assaulting a player should never be condoned.

This./

The next time he ‘showboats’ & a defender goes in heavy they’ll be the same people complaining about it not going punished.

I’ll say it again, he did this at Ajax & we knew exactly what we were purchasing. It’s a useless skill that he enjoys, no problem with it so long as he delivers in other phases. This strange habit of our fanbase climbing over themselves to berate our own players is strange, we’ve had a few wingers over the years who had to learn to do their skills in more efficient ways - Antony will learn, Ten Hag has said as much.

 

[charlenefan]

I laughed when he did it live and I've laughed everytime I've seen it in highlights of the game since. Football's about entertainment FFS. The crowd on the night like it as well

 

[Womp]

What is the point of football if not for entertainment?

 

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[the_cliff]

Good article.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...tony-skill-substitution-ten-hag-b2212482.html

Keep it going Antony !

 

[pratyush_utd]

Scholes used to be my favorite played but he’s acting old and senile here.

any winger needs to practice skills. Also when they come off, they gain confidence, it’s a sharpening of your tool-set as a winger really.

the 720 was filthy.

We get Scholes, Hargreaves and Owen rotating for most of United games here in Asia and Scholes is just terrible guest pundit. He is so dull and looks uninterested and makes these remarks against United as if he is holding some sort of grudge against us.

Hargreaves and Schmeichel are two ex United players that you would guess were United players when they speak.

 

[Rolaholic]

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“I think it starts with us being Brazilians. Brazilians have quality in their blood. It’s always been that way since Pelé, to have quality, to dribble, to score, to dance, to smile. So I think people have to understand this aspect that we have. So it wasn’t offensive to anyone what he did. Of course, if it’s offensive, we’ll come to him in the dressing room and talk. But it was not offensive to anyone. It’s his game. I think he has to keep doing it,” Fred told ESPN Brasil.

“Dribbling, doing what he likes to do because he has the quality for it, so he has to keep doing it. Casemiro and I don’t have the quality for that (laughs), so we can’t do it. Leave it to Antony, to Neymar, to Vini, to those players in attack.

“So he has to do it. I think those who have quality have to show it on the pitch there. If you want to control differently, you can control. You want to do a spin that he likes to do, you have to do it. Dance, you can dance. As long as it’s with respect to the opponent, obviously. But I think it’s valid. And I think people have to stop talking on television there, wanting to pull up a subject. Because you have the quality for it, so you have to do it.”

Fred was also asked by ESPN Brasil if such pundit reaction has become ‘out of proportion’. And he agrees with that, continuing to encourage other Brazilians to show their skills in Europe.

“I think so. Also because, as I told you, they are players who have a lot of quality to do that. So sometimes people end up… I don’t know, in their countries they don’t have players of the same quality who do that. And they think it’s different, they think it’s a different culture, I don’t know. I don’t know what they think. But I think it’s very annoying that they want to say that. Them wanting to gloat over Brazil’s players.

“Because they have quality to do it. Neymar sometimes does a rainbow flick, makes a dribble. As I said, I think you have to do it, you have the quality to do it, you can do it. As long as you respect the opponent, you have to show it on the field. So I don’t see any problem.”

Preach Pastor Fred

 

[Abraxas]

Hopefully he carries on with the silliness. If it riles people up there's a chance it'll irk the opposition and that can only be good for us. However..get the bloody pass right at the end of it. The manager is right, entertainment is good but we're in the business of needing end product so everything should be directed at that and any sideshows have to be part of that process.That's all I'd say to him but you don't want to put an anchor around his neck.

 

[NewGlory]

Just hear me out:

1. He is Brazilian, so he thinks differently from the likes of Scholesy, no disrespect to Scholesy
2. He is passionate and maybe that gets expressed in silly ways

I couldn't care less if he does one stupid showboating every 7 games, as long as he scores goals, and if he doesn't score goals I won't like him no matter how "well-behaved" he is.

So basically - we are focusing on wrong things

 

[sillwuka]

We need a player to boil people's piss, keep it up I'd say.

 

[chb23]

No video/gif of the spin?!

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[RC89]

I think had he pulled off the pass it would have been seen as a brilliant way to hold up the ball, but he didn't and that's what the criticism really comes down to.

 

[Stacks]

But the issue wasnt Antony's joga bonita? It was his pass. The move actually worked and gave Case plenty of room to run into

I think had he pulled off the pass it would have been seen as a brilliant way to hold up the ball, but he didn't and that's what the criticism really comes down to.

you know what. You are probably right.