It's a material amount. And they aren't going to throw money around like candy just because they're rich. They have a valuation and will broadly stick to it.
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As exciting as being owned by Elon Musk sounds, i still don't think its our best option ahead of Qatar.
Elon would run the club like a business, every cost, every staffing position, everything will be analyzed before money is spent. Just look at what he's done at Twitter since taking over.
With Qatari ownership, this is a vanity project. Something that says, look what we own. For that reason, no cost would be spared, new stadium, new training facilities, big name signing....No problem.
Elon would run the club like a business, every cost, every staffing position, everything will be analyzed before money is spent. Just look at what he's done at Twitter since taking over.
With Qatari ownership, this is a vanity project. Something that says, look what we own. For that reason, no cost would be spared, new stadium, new training facilities, big name signing....No problem.
Qatar aren’t bidding for United and then working this out. If they bid then it’s already been sorted
Probably right, unless the Qataris and/or Saudis indicate that their initial offers are their best and finals.
The Denver Broncos sold for $4.65bn last year and the Phoenix Suns/Mercury went for $4bn earlier this year, so I think we might find that US consortia are not out of the running yet.
so does that make you tolerant or intolerant ?
very good, get me in that room. Don't City fans do that bowing to the east during the Champions League Anthem, but they all think east is just the opposite direction to the pitchThere is nothing exciting about being owned by Elon Musk. I fear he'd be worse than the glazers.
Hopefully an OT reno rather than new stadium.
Agree. I think Saudi will regret Newcastle big time around about now.
the issue i'd have with Elon is that he would be a natural 'tinkerman' sticking his nose in everywhere, particularly on the pitch matters. He would be infuriating to ETH and could end up with him walking out. I think this could be more of a publicity stunt than genuine interest though from him, although he has stated in the past that Utd are the only football club that he has any interest in and is a fan.
Unless it's deeper then just valuation.
Unless it's a continuation of the World Cup, and the influence they saw that only football can achieve.
I thought the whole Elon thing is just an unverified rumour? Didn't he explicitly state he doesn't want to buy Utd?
Elon would out-Boehly Tedd Boehly and bring a circus the likes of which have yet to be seen. We'd be up in arms calling for Eddy back
Why wouldn’t they? If Newcastle and Man Utd were up for sale at the same time who do you think they’re going to pick? The biggest club in the world or a club that haven’t done shit for half a century?
Not really. Multiple people call out your stupid post, not just me, and there's a reason for that. Again, not sure why mention a previous generation and their modes of transport matters when we are discussing the people making the bid.
You're right. This isn't the thread to call Qatari people camel riders. It's about a takeover. And as a mod responded to your post told you, you can present an argument as to why they aren't a good choice without racism.
Just like the carboot mate, you got to mark it up to get the price you want!
The buyers are all well aware that the Glazers have milked the club dry, they have reached the point that they cannot continue to ignore investment and cannot afford to leverage further debts or take dividends, for the first time they face the prospect of Utd costing them money, so yeah if the alternative is cashing out for £4.5bn I think they will probably take yer hand off.
In addition it would appear that nobody has been mad enough to offer a capital investment for a minority share.
I agree. It's more complicated to meet these ffp rules for newcastle compered to united. Well I'm chuffed either way. my country or my tripe owning the club.
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Yes, I have a feeling Musk would be a disaster. He has plenty of money, but his ego wouldn't allow him to devolve the necessary responsibility to those who are experts in their field. Ten Hag being called in to explain tactical decisions would no doubt become a regular occurrence.
I expect we'd do some 'interesting' things with technology, though (a VR Old Trafford matchday experience probably first up).
I don't trust the Qataris, they don't show the Flintsones on their telly!
But AbuDhabi-do
But AbuDhabi-do
Elon can feck off. Just the type of owner we don’t need using us as an ego flex to his moronic fan base.
Which is factored into the top value they'd pay for. Which is just above 4bn and not more, as per Bloomberg.
Yabba Dabba No?
If this happens then all I hope for is that they allow the manager the chance to continue with his plan. A well run club on the pitch with progress in stadium and training ground facilities is fine by me.
Having dodgy owners who also stick their oar in and ruin the balance we seem to finally be working towards would be worse than the Glazers tbh. I can finally see some light at the end of the tunnel and if they upset that for some attempt at Galactico instant gratification then it would be awful.
Give me ETH building slowly over that any day.
Having dodgy owners who also stick their oar in and ruin the balance we seem to finally be working towards would be worse than the Glazers tbh. I can finally see some light at the end of the tunnel and if they upset that for some attempt at Galactico instant gratification then it would be awful.
Give me ETH building slowly over that any day.
I wonder if Musk regrets buying twitter and wishes he'd just bought United instead? Would have been a far better investment for him.
Bang on. Just reading this and what he’s saying - it can’t be the PSG approach.
I do wonder what some of the most prominent people in the clubs long, proud history would think about us becoming little more than a PR stunt for some dictators.
Maybe some will speak out, for or against. We already know the thoughts of Cantona and I'd wager many others felt like him. I doubt most would make their feelings public as not to cause problems.
Maybe some will speak out, for or against. We already know the thoughts of Cantona and I'd wager many others felt like him. I doubt most would make their feelings public as not to cause problems.
so does that make you tolerant or intolerant ?
Can't wait to chant "Our Arabs hate your Arabs, doo dah doo dah" at City.
If the Qatari’s aren’t willing to come near the Glazers valuation then nobody will, which is concerning to say the least. It means it leaves the door open for the leeches to backtrack on their plans for a full sale.
You ever see the movie "Manchester United - Beyond the Promise Land"? This has been the long term goal in 1999/2000 for a lot of people within the club.
Has this been mentioned anywhere that they won't come close to the Glazers valuation? All I kept hearing was that Qatar is confident of being the winning bid.
Forget everything else, I've met a few Saudis and they're invariably United fans if they care about football. Maybe Liverpool but majority is United.
They wanted the biggest prize and missed out on a big one (Chelsea) and the biggest (United) for a club that's in the middle of nowhere.
I don't think there is any coming back from the Glazer mafia now. The fans know there are viable buyers and this is the closest we have been to a sale. The fan reaction to a Glazer u-turn would be insane, and probably even dangerous.
According to latest reports the Qatari’s view the club to be worth £4.5b and that’s what they’re planning on offering. Whereas the Glazers are looking to get between £6-8b which is pure fantasy but they hold the cards unfortunately.
Am I right in saying that when the Qatari's buy us, that money is going to the Glazers and THEN the new owners have to pay off the debt?
Or will the Glazer cnuts pay that off with their money???
Or will the Glazer cnuts pay that off with their money???
It's 6bn not 6-8bn surely
I'm not sure that's how it works in Qatar.
Aye. The backlash would be immense which is the only thing giving me hope they’ll settle for a more realistic figure. Even at £4.5b they’re still walking away with obscene profits despite putting feck into the club, anything more is pure greed but that’s them all over.
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