redcucumber
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Being intolerant of anything to do with racism, Nazism, homophobia and that sort of discrimination is fine with me.so does that make you tolerant or intolerant ?
Being intolerant of anything to do with racism, Nazism, homophobia and that sort of discrimination is fine with me.so does that make you tolerant or intolerant ?
I had read most report of $5B as the asking price. £4.5B is absolutely fine in that case. I have no doubt that Glazers will sell. If they value their shares at around £6B, then they are saying that the total worth of the club in the current situation is around £8B, that's before we consider the debt and condition of the physical assets.According to latest reports the Qatari’s view the club to be worth £4.5b and that’s what they’re planning on offering. Whereas the Glazers are looking to get between £6-8b which is pure fantasy but they hold the cards unfortunately.
It's 6bn not 6-8bn surely
This is so dumb, how could they enforce another country to accept their domestic policies?!Sure, no problem with that.
I see it differently though, it tells me that they've got domestic policies which we see as abhorrent but they aren't interested in enforcing the same outside.
For me, that delineation is sufficient to not impact my support of the club.
Am I right in saying that when the Qatari's buy us, that money is going to the Glazers and THEN the new owners have to pay off the debt?
Or will the Glazer cnuts pay that off with their money???
Think earlier expectation was around 5bn. So 4.5b first bid is in line with what is expected.According to latest reports the Qatari’s view the club to be worth £4.5b and that’s what they’re planning on offering. Whereas the Glazers are looking to get between £6-8b which is pure fantasy but they hold the cards unfortunately.
Good lord.I follow my religion which is against homosexuality, but I am not against homosexuals. I believe people can do whatever they want and like. I will hang out with those people be friends with them. Eventually if there are wrong they will judged by God itself on the day of judgement.
What was so surprising or wrong in that post?Good lord.
Thank you for your honesty. We host the WC to break boundaries but yet there are people who wants to wipe us from the world. it's the same story over and over again. Visit the ME and mingle with the people and truly form your opinion. Not just by reading an article or a column you judge the whole nation and accuse them of being backwards and can't come to the modern world like everyone else.
Am I right in saying that when the Qatari's buy us, that money is going to the Glazers and THEN the new owners have to pay off the debt?
Or will the Glazer cnuts pay that off with their money???
Cognitive dissonance.What was so surprising or wrong in that post?
Yep. The Glazer’s own the club. The club owns the debt. If you buy the club you are taking on the debt.Am I right in saying that when the Qatari's buy us, that money is going to the Glazers and THEN the new owners have to pay off the debt?
Or will the Glazer cnuts pay that off with their money???
It didn’t overshadow the WC at all really once it got going.We will have to see who exactly is bidding and how the bid is structured, to understand what kind of damage this could do to the club.
The debate about sportswashing won‘t go away if there is clear links to the Qatar state. It overshadowed the WC.
Amnesty international wants the PL to set rules about human rights compliance for owners. Because of the world wide reach of the PL this is a good idea.
Yeh but it’s no biggie.Am I right in saying that when the Qatari's buy us, that money is going to the Glazers and THEN the new owners have to pay off the debt?
Or will the Glazer cnuts pay that off with their money???
The debt is on the club. The new owners, or the club will have to pay it off.Am I right in saying that when the Qatari's buy us, that money is going to the Glazers and THEN the new owners have to pay off the debt?
Or will the Glazer cnuts pay that off with their money???
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...c-on-death-row-for-using-twitter-and-whatsapp - Court documents reveal reasons for Awad Al-Qarni’s arrest – even though rulers are major investors in social media platformsMissing the whole point of my example as gulf country's women can be whatever they want to be. We don't discriminate against them. For instance. We have women playing football in Saudi for crying out loud.
I live here and I know what I'm talking about.
Were they not paying attention when Abu Dhabi and Saudi Arabia came calling over the last 10 years? This is the kind of hypocrisy which boils my piss.We will have to see who exactly is bidding and how the bid is structured, to understand what kind of damage this could do to the club.
The debate about sportswashing won‘t go away if there is clear links to the Qatar state. It overshadowed the WC.
Amnesty international wants the PL to set rules about human rights compliance for owners. Because of the world wide reach of the PL this is a good idea.
It didn’t overshadow the WC at all really once it got going.
I agree. Those countries are as bad or worse.Were they not paying attention when Abu Dhabi and Saudi Arabia came calling over the last 10 years? This is the kind of hypocrisy which boils my piss.
Couldn’t disagree more. People loved the WC and thought it was one of the most entertaining ever, with the GOAT winning the whole thing. Football fans as a majority do not give a feck about wider issues. Just the way it is.I don‘t agree with that, it wasn‘t as successful the Qatari‘s hoped it would be. They got more negative attention than they expected.
Especially regarding their treatment of migrant workers but also LGTB and women‘s rights. Things they don‘t like to talk about.
If Qatar takeover does happen at least I hope we wont see stuff like this although it wouldn't at all surprise me.
Fecking hell, yeah if this does happen we can only hope we don't see idiots like these two balloons at OT embarrassing themselves.
Zero chance really.What are the odds that at the end of the week, the Glazers go:
"Having assessed the proposals that have been submitted to us regarding investment/purchase of the club this week, we are not satisfied at the moment and will revisit the situation in the future"
Were they not paying attention when Abu Dhabi and Saudi Arabia came calling over the last 10 years? This is the kind of hypocrisy which boils my piss.
Has anyone ever thought of the worst case scenario in which if Qatar bid 4.5bn and the Glazers turn around and reject their offer?
Oh gosh. I think there would be riots.
That goes for most people, until it personally affects them.Couldn’t disagree more. People loved the WC and thought it was one of the most entertaining ever, with the GOAT winning the whole thing. Football fans as a majority do not give a feck about wider issues. Just the way it is.
That's like saying a Scotsman is from England!Their both from Emirates though.
You're bang on guaranteed to see at least a few of those.
Fair enough. Did not see much coverage of this at that time. Guess the PL can do nothing now. They've set a precedence, and followed it up with accepting worse each time.Yes, they were:
https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-re...d-must-prompt-football-ownership-rule-changes
https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-re...astle-prepare-first-game-after-saudi-takeover
https://www.skysports.com/football/...ier-league-meeting-over-saudi-backed-takeover
https://www.skysports.com/football/...nd-eddie-howe-to-speak-out-on-saudi-ownership
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ter-city-amnesty-international-football-leaks
https://www.theguardian.com/law/2018/nov/11/manchester-city-owners-accused-sportswashing-gulf-image
https://www.middleeasteye.net/fr/ne...and-football-leaders-over-uae-ties-2135988559
You’re only losing faith in humanity now? What took you so long.This thread makes me lose faith in humanity. If replacing a greedy capitalist with a tyrant dictator is applauded as a change for the better, then there really isn't much hope for the world going forward.
Imagine living in a country where you cannot say what you want, you cannot believe in what you want, you cannot freely choose the lifepartner you want, you cannot dress as you like, you have no vote and your selfappointed government is the church, law, jury, executioner and controls 100% of the power and resources in your country. Sportswashing is a huge problem and we cannot take their money to look the other way.