Thanks for the moral lesson, bro. And you can choose not to post here or follow United, if this bothers you that much.
Club Sale | It’s done!
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We don't usually spend that, fergie took a team on its last legs to the title. We needed serious investment then, moyes got fellaini then mata in January and they was it. Mourinho only got Fred in summer 2018. Yes we've spent big at certain points but the difference is with city when a player comes along that the manager thinks they need he gets them, no belt tightening, no sell before you buy, and sometimes spending later isn't the same when you've missed out at certain points. Summer 2018 was the time to push on, we'd finished second with 81 points, then the Glazers were satisfied and reigned it in
Yes he can. Does it not bother you were gonna lose a large part of our hardcore fanbase,
Are we though? Didn’t that happen when the Glazers took over?
We aren't going to lose anything. People will huff and puff but they'll still watch the games, maybe they'll skip a few but as soon as Liverpool at home comes around or we're top of the league they'll be back in, maybe they stop posting here for a while but they'll come back at some point.
Yep, if you look at the expenditure charts, we are usually right up there along with a mental wage bill. It's not about spending it s how to spend it. Which we have already improved massively under ETH. And even Arnold's gimmicky 'no more assholes' policy.
United don’t need to buy success, we just need to be run competently.
Then don't say you don't get to choose. You just don't want to.
Yes. And it’s not as good as it was.
Not sure mate, they are a private limited company. They may have investors.
And yes they could take fees and dividends etc. But you'd have to imagine anything they could take out of United wouldn't touch the sides of the yearly payments of a £5 billion pound debt.
If Ineos take on debt to buy a company with a view to growing the company as an asset. It wouldn't make much sense to cripple it with debt it couldn't hope to service. Yes the Glazers did it but for a much smaller amount that United sadly could afford to service.
Having said all of this it's probably a moot point at this stage. I don't think Ratcliffe will be taking over.
I said I don’t get to choose the fecking owners.
Agreed, I think he's stretched as it is with his bid.
From what I understand they will front £4b and then take a loan to pay off United's debt. My concern is that the debt that will be paid off by the loan given to INEOS will then be given to United in the form of a loan, which will then be United's responsibility to pay back to INEOS. That's the kind of stuff Abramovich was doing at Chelsea whenever he put money into the club.
In all honesty, I'd prefer the club to be debt free and able to support itself with it's own revenue. I also don't see how Jimbo has an extra couple of billion to invest in the ground and infrastructure.
What will happen to the non- United fans living in Qatar?
Generally the idea of supporting a club is that you stick with them no matter what. You evidently don't feel the same way. Might explain why you don't understand the opinions of people who simply want the club they love to do well. For you, it's not a passion, it's just a pass time.
Deported to Liverpool maybe?
For every one that goes, another 10 will follow the ££ and join.
Interesting to see what happens to Liverpool.
A hardcore fanbase would never stop supporting the club. Simple as that
YES! Just the fans we want!
We probably lost more fans with Ronaldo leaving than we ever will with Qatar joining.
Does this passion stand higher than the belief that every person deserves basic human rights?
If so, count me out.
Football is great, but not the most important thing in my life.
How can you be misinformed about make believe hardcore base?
Have they got a brochure?
CR37? Not proper fans in the first place.
This is the truth really.
It's like the lads who went to support FC United when the Glazers took over, most of them came back at some point, and the one's that didn't were widely derided as not real fans in the first place.
I mean maybe we'll be better with someone who sanctimonious criticised everyone who complained during moves and solskjaer's time here.
I still remember your round up of posts when we beat west ham 2-1, then we didn't win a game for about a month and you went silent
It’s literally already happened once.
Hopefully you choose not to support us.
Spot on mate, I really feel like some posters are like those really pushy Jehovah's witnesses trying to force their views on to you, and then are outraged when you don't give in.
Lots of newly minted hardcore fans on twitter with messi and ronaldo avs after the Qatar news
True.
Not sure what you mean by this but are you suggesting there's a fan that is allowed and a fan that isn't?
That doesn’t mean they weren’t though
Right now they are currently still listed on eBay with zero bids so far.
Funnily enough a lot of these could come back when the Glazers leave
And that sums up the point where football has reached today. Fans, tradition, history and values can watch from the sidelines as despotic regimes fight with other billionaires for ownership and control of something neither of them are worthy to possess.
We want the fans who will be with club thick and thin.
If the "hard-core" fans don't like the takeover, they should unite and protest against them. Make sure the Qataris don't get the club.
I'm not able to be passionate about things I don't admire. And I don't admire sportswashing projects, in fact I despise them. That's what the acquisition by Qatar would change.
Here's the dictionary definition of hard-core
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/hardcore-fan
The group most committed to activities
People who leave over ownership are not, and definition the most committed
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/hardcore-fan
The group most committed to activities
People who leave over ownership are not, and definition the most committed
Jesus you really are insufferable.
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