afrocentricity
Part of first caf team to complete Destiny raid
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It did Pidge, it did..What happened to Marlene's pal with one ear? We never found out if it grew back or not
It did Pidge, it did..What happened to Marlene's pal with one ear? We never found out if it grew back or not
Phew cheers, now I can go to sleep.It did Pidge, it did..
TBF, it was all in one on one combat rather than him gunning down five or six people at the same time.It was a decent finale, only a couple gripes with the season as a whole. One being Joel taking on an army by himself, that was the first time it was obvious I was watching a computer game remake. I know he's supposed to be some sort of badass, but there's been too many instances of him being pretty incompetent for that to be believable.
Another, like others have said, is the importance put on finding a cure, when the infected don't appear to be much of a threat anymore. I'll make the assumption however that they are still a massive threat to the world, just not in the areas they visited this season...
My Missus was pissed off as well. The joys of watching TV serieses with a doc around.The end bothered my inner medic…
…specifically the idea that crudely stitching shut a probably already infected penetrating wound with an unsterilised needle and thread would do anything other than make a bad situation worse.
How did she feel about the pulp fiction usage of the penicillin?My Missus was pissed off as well. The joys of watching TV serieses with a doc around.
After years of marriage I learnt how to block certain things out.How did she feel about the pulp fiction usage of the penicillin?
That bothered me a lot less. Actually seemed like a reasonable way to get some very high tissue concentration where it’s needed. Only downside is it would hurt like a bastard. But he wasn’t complaining.How did she feel about the pulp fiction usage of the penicillin?
They need a cure for the 3 infected they’ve encountered so far.
Not to mention the scene where
I presume it’s from game players who assume that not needing to waste hordes of infected every single time a character travels from A to B implies infected not a problem.Surely it's obvious that a cure would be revolutionary? That doesn't fully excuse the fireflies of being so callous, but the quality of life improvements would be massive.
Of course it matters, people who spout stuff like this and the nonsense that comes with it are only fine when its not one of their own thats the acceptable casualty. This is where their hypocrisy lies.Who cares? One life for potentially saving humanity's future is really not a moral dilemma like some pretend. Joel literally killed dozens just to save one human life he holds dear. People in hundreds die in war etc. Just look at the actual real world scenario of Covid vaccines being fast tracked. Even the safest ones did result in 1-2 perfectly healthy person(s) dying in a million or so. But that cost was accepted due to the larger benefit derived out of vaccinating a critical mass of people.
C, definitely CLate to the party on this one but just finished E03 last night. What an amazing hour-and-a-quarter of television that was. Among the best I’ve ever seen in any series.
I haven’t played the game so unsure how faithful the show is to the original material but I’m completely baffled by the ratings this particular episode received on IMDb, for example. Can only imagine it’s either (a) butthurt gamers annoyed at the deviation off the ‘script’, (b) butthurt Neanderthals annoyed at the sexual orientation of the characters’ love story portrayed so beautifully, or (c) both of the above.
A utilitarian argument works fine when we are talking about things like vaccines where the potentail harm is so low and we have no idea who will be affected. When you are talking about the certain death of your child (which we are really here) then I'd go full postal as did Joel. No question.Of course it matters, people who spout stuff like this and the nonsense that comes with it are only fine when its not one of their own thats the acceptable casualty. This is where their hypocrisy lies.
I like the way the tv series has brought this whole debate back, its like 2013 again, but usually the people who say the utilitarian solution is the correct one don't actually have the stones to follow through with it when its them or someone belong to them who has to pay the price. The many above few mentality is not a healthy one because it de-humanizes a problem, its a choice for robots to make not people.
https://www.scu.edu/ethics/ethics-resources/ethical-decision-making/calculating-consequences-the-utilitarian-approach/#:~:text=The principle of utilitarianism invites,persons affected by our actions. The section in here on the problems of Utilitarianism is everything wrong with the many over the few approach.
Agreed as it was a really great bit of TV.C, definitely C
Kill one person to save a majority is a great dilemma when youre not directly involved with the one person.A utilitarian argument works fine when we are talking about things like vaccines where the potentail harm is so low and we have no idea who will be affected. When you are talking about the certain death of your child (which we are really here) then I'd go full postal as did Joel. No question.
Given the level of incompetence routinely displayed by the Fireflies, surely it's no definitive thing that it'd work?Surely it's obvious that a cure would be revolutionary? That doesn't fully excuse the fireflies of being so callous, but the quality of life improvements would be massive.
that's the bit that got me.Why the feck are they chucking concussion grenades at potentially the most important people in the world? Have they been deceived regularly by pairs of middle-aged men and teenage girls where this approach is warranted?
Especially because they know this fungus is in the brain! So the person notwithstanding, perhaps let's refrain from damaging the most important brain in existence?that's the bit that got me.
"Don't forget; we're waiting for a young girl, an adult male AND an adult female. Do you see the adult female? Exactly. These two must be wrong uns. For all we know, that man has stuffed the girl with explosives."
If we're honest though it's clear that the Fireflies are just a bit shit in general.
I'm used to it because of the show 'Blindspot'It was very strange hearing Ellie's game voice in live action.
I can't imagine it will. Probably never be spoken about again..Just caught up with this, it’s excellent. Hope the lie at the end doesn’t come back to bite Joel and affect his and Ellie’s relationship as that is one of the best things about the show.
Really hope this isn't a game divined spoiler.I can't imagine it will. Probably never be spoken about again..
100% wrong. Potentially saving the world over one life, I'd be willing to if the other person was as well. I suppose that is where the fireflies were wrong as well, they should have told this to Ellie, who most likely would've gone with it. Both wrong but Joel much more wrong.Good finish.
Was Joel right or wrong ?
i think he was right given the situation , but wrong to lie.
Nah, if the Fireflies hadn't shown themselves to just be incompetent morons so far, then maybe... But leaving it in their hands, plus the fact that they didn't give Ellie a choice makes it far more 50/50 (and probably more in Joel's favour) for me.100% wrong. Potentially saving the world over one life, I'd be willing to if the other person was as well. I suppose that is where the fireflies were wrong as well, they should have told this to Ellie, who most likely would've gone with it. Both wrong but Joel much more wrong.
I get what you are saying...she knows Joel is ruthless and dangerous, but she also thinks he is just motivated by money and self interest (as he was before he grew attached to Ellie). Marlene saw her relationship with Joel as merely transactional. He wasn't a committed Firefly, he was a loner and a ruthless killer, maybe he was made more approachable by his contact with Tess but still motivated only by self interest. So she probably is thinking that if he gets his money and a free ride out of town he will declare "no foul" and just walk away, rather than risk his own life to save a kid.The silly thing in the finale for me was the fact Marlene had an unconscious Joel there, not chained up or in a cell or anything, someone who she now knows is very capable and potentially dangerous given he just made it across the country, and waits for him to wake up, then tells him basically the truth about what’s going to happen to Ellie. I mean christ you don’t think maybe they’d have developed some kind of relationship by now? And then you think 2 measly armed guards is going to be enough to take him away out to some random place?
they should have had him locked up if they were gonna tell him the truth, or I dunno, maybe not go all cliche villian and tell him all their plans for Ellie until it had actually taken place. That was the annoying part for me in terms of writing. I guess maybe that was in the game too
On the whole though I really loved the season, and I’ve not played the game.