It sounds dreadful. What a farce.Sounds shite
Man i hope this is tongue in cheek.I’m getting really stressed about this can’t sleep and just refreshing this thread twitter and going over all YouTube channels obsessing over every detail and yet there’s no news.
It’s vital we get an update tomorrow otherwise I will be furious and ready to explode with rage.
Yer a wizard Harry. So nobody else saw the books and thought, why not let a hedge fund get on with it and see how they can jointly finance it with the Glazers. Plus pay down the existing debt, or even add to it, without taking any dividendsGlazers can upgrade the stadium for ~200m and Elliott became more serious about investing after looking at the books because they liked what they saw.
So there's a clear pathway for the Glazers to stay now. Previously it was thought they'd have to sell because they couldn't find a way to afford the upgrade of the stadium. Doesn't look to be the case anymore.
What a surprise. Regime that doesn't give a shit about human rights lies to get their way.Workers' rights improvements in Qatar seem to be going well.
https://www.theguardian.com/global-...ar-world-cup-migrant-workers-stranded-jobless
Can’t see any way Glazers would have anything to do with Elliot. They would be indebted to the hilt.If the Glazers get into bed with Elliot, isn’t it possible they could lose the whole lot if they defaulted on repayments just like Milan?
Especially if they have billion pound offers from Ratcliffe and Qatar. They would surely make more money from a sale than they ever would holding onto United another twenty years?Can’t see any way Glazers would have anything to do with Elliot. They would be indebted to the hilt.
After what happened at AC Milan the Glazers would be monumentally dumb to risk accepting investment from them but maybe they are just that dumb.Can’t see any way Glazers would have anything to do with Elliot. They would be indebted to the hilt.
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Is this a rule or they are just making things up?
It's not an issue either way.Ratcliffe has said that he would solve it by distancing himself from Nice. Can’t see it being an issue.
I'd take Ratcliffe over this awful Elliotld take full state ownership before the Glazers staying in power by getting into bed with a US Hedge Fund
Very little of the Glazers supposed stance makes sense. They make relatively little from Utd each year. Dividends of what £20m a year.Especially if they have billion pound offers from Ratcliffe and Qatar. They would surely make more money from a sale than they ever would holding onto United another twenty years?
This would be our worst nightmare whatever you might feel about Qatari ownersMajor story if you read the full article.
It's clear that Elliott Investments with the Glazers staying is the most likely outcome now.
With the silence after the bids it’s understandable… in a way it’s like any business sale the seller will usually act reluctant or indifferentThink he's assuming Elliott will win so anything bad for them would be indirectly bad for us.
So, let me get this straight.Glazers can upgrade the stadium for ~200m and Elliott became more serious about investing after looking at the books because they liked what they saw.
So there's a clear pathway for the Glazers to stay now. Previously it was thought they'd have to sell because they couldn't find a way to afford the upgrade of the stadium. Doesn't look to be the case anymore.
Rename the stadium to the GardenManchester Saint-German
MSG, tasty!
He must be on the caf, he’s seen HarryP posting!
Oh right. Yeah. My badPSG and United wouldn't be owned by the same people.*officially*
For fecks sakes the CAF does like to spout bullshite doesn't it. They're not exactly old, Jesus christ almighty above.Very little of the Glazers supposed stance makes sense. They make relatively little from Utd each year. Dividends of what £20m a year.
If they sold today £5bn they’d make a lot more money just by investing that money elsewhere. Football clubs are not good drivers of profit. The only way to make money is the capital growth by growing/improving the club.
Maybe if they held on for another 10-20 years it would be worth £8bn but then half of them would be dead.
I’m worried about the Glazers stayingGlazers can upgrade the stadium for ~200m and Elliott became more serious about investing after looking at the books because they liked what they saw.
So there's a clear pathway for the Glazers to stay now. Previously it was thought they'd have to sell because they couldn't find a way to afford the upgrade of the stadium. Doesn't look to be the case anymore.
The name they had to get rid of was, for worse, so synonymous with the t3am that the “Commanders” immediately comes off sounding like the worst NFL team name in history.Tweet
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That world record Broncos price won't be around for much longer
True but it’s still less than the £5billion that the Glazers have been allegedly offered, so Uniteds sale would still be the world record after that saleTweet
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He’s like one of those weird old relatives on social media. Wouldn’t surprise me if his next post was “1 like = £1 to fund Man Utd”
It’s the caf. Anyone over 40 is geriatric and over 50s are planning their funerals already.For fecks sakes the CAF does like to spout bullshite doesn't it. They're not exactly old, Jesus christ almighty above.
Avram Glazer - 62
Joel Glazer - 55
Bryan Glazer - 58
Edward Glazer - 50
Kevin Glazer - 58
Darcie Glazer - 52
That's precious, I'll leave it there as you obviously have no interest in a discussion on the matter beyond deflecting any questions about the appalling way many migrant workers are treated in Qatar.Not quite sure what you don’t understand. An article about visa scams in Qatar was posted in a misleading context about Qatar’s treatment of migrants. I pointed out that the article was about criminality. People then started talking but “but what about the camps (which no longer exists)” or more ridiculously “well if the Qatari government cared they’d investigate and stop it” how else stevoc, how else, am I supposed to get the point across that crime & scams exists everywhere.
If you hold Qatar responsible & claim it doesn’t investigate crimes in its country then apply the same standard to every country.
Or just acknowledge that the post was posted in a misleading light and isn’t the stick you’re looking for to beat the state with.
Yeah alright mate, sure they must be putting them all up in 4-5 star hotels these days.but what about the camps (which no longer exists)”
Big Malc kept himself busy eh? When not indulging in shady business deals.For fecks sakes the CAF does like to spout bullshite doesn't it. They're not exactly old, Jesus christ almighty above.
Avram Glazer - 62
Joel Glazer - 55
Bryan Glazer - 58
Edward Glazer - 50
Kevin Glazer - 58
Darcie Glazer - 52
Have you ever wondered why people take up such work?That's precious, I'll leave it there as you obviously have no interest in a serious discussion on the matter beyond deflecting any questions about the appalling way many migrant workers are treated in Qatar.
Yeah alright mate, sure they must be putting them all up in 4-5 star hotels these days.
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In those circumstances, they would probably issue new shares rather than sell their existing stock. The proceeds of the sale of new shares would go to the club's coffers, rather than the Glazer Family's pockets (although I'm sure they'd negotiate to retain a portion of the proceeds from any minority investment for themselves - wouldn't you in their position?) The Glazer family would be diluting their equity and they'd have a new partner to keep happy (would probably spell the end of dividends and Elliott would likely insist on implementing various other controls), but they'd potentially get a newly refurbished stadium and training ground out of it (plus perhaps some of the debt paid down), enhancing the value of the club in the process.But accepting an offer from Elliott would mean The Glazers raising significant capital (thus also reducing their stake in the club meaning less of the pie in any future sale) and then putting that significant sum into United rather than pocketing it
Simply not in their nature and surely I don’t have to explain why. Expecting the Glazers to hand their own money over is like expecting a lion to look after your pet chicken
It is because a lot of them (possibly most) are lied to and mislead about how much they'll actually be making and what sort of work they'll be doing?Have you ever wondered why people take up such work?
Would you leave your homeland and family for worse conditions and pay? Need of the day, mate.
BingoBeen said plenty of times before but the Glazers will not sell part of the club to reinvest. It's fundamentally impossible. The 4 Glazers who want out are not going to sell part or all of their shares only to not then pocket the money.
No way is it most - the vast majority are likely to get exactly the kind of work they were expecting which is better conditions and pay than whatever they get in their own countryIt is because a lot of them (possibly most) are lied to and mislead about how much they'll actually be making and what sort of work they'll be doing?
Here's a good recent video with some first hand stories from guys who worked in Qatar and their experiences.