I hope this is all a ploy to get Qatar to cough up an extra half a billion.
Club Sale | It’s done!
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I’m an English socialist mate. Not a right wing Trump supporter.
Well done.
socialist? eww
Should I have been quoted here?
Are you a champagne socialist though? Lots of that around these parts.
I said earlier a month ago or so that time is often a buyers best friend.
As long as there’s a bid on the table you can be sure that the seller (handled by the Raine Group) will come back before any deal is done and ask all buyers if they’re still interested and if they’re willing to upper their bid.
Both SJR and SJ are still very much in the front row of this auction until any of the them pull out. In this special case no news (from SJR and SJ) is probably good news.(for us supporters)
I assume that the Raine Group has to inform all bidders if they going to enter a third round who’s the highest bidder (or preferred bidder) and why they want to continue. No serious buyer will just upper their bid without knowing why they have to do it. Maybe they have been told that if they don’t meet the asking price their will be no deal, that’s a possibility, but at the same time if both bidders just stand still without entering the third round then the seller has lost their advantage of steering the bidding process to their advantage.
Both SJR and SJ has already mention this and that they will not bid against themselves without further information.
Ineos for all their wealth has a limited budget if they’re cooperating with Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan. Higher interest rates will affect their possibility to raise their initial bid. I assume that his partners has demanded a few clauses and specific targets that has to met before the they can upper their bid above a certain level. That’s a limitation.
That’s why I think SJ and his NTF has the best chance to win this. He’s not restricted the same way and has more financial flexibility if they has to significantly upper their bid. This is off course a qualified guess from my part but with all the information available it’s difficult to see any other scenario.
As long as there’s a bid on the table you can be sure that the seller (handled by the Raine Group) will come back before any deal is done and ask all buyers if they’re still interested and if they’re willing to upper their bid.
Both SJR and SJ are still very much in the front row of this auction until any of the them pull out. In this special case no news (from SJR and SJ) is probably good news.(for us supporters)
I assume that the Raine Group has to inform all bidders if they going to enter a third round who’s the highest bidder (or preferred bidder) and why they want to continue. No serious buyer will just upper their bid without knowing why they have to do it. Maybe they have been told that if they don’t meet the asking price their will be no deal, that’s a possibility, but at the same time if both bidders just stand still without entering the third round then the seller has lost their advantage of steering the bidding process to their advantage.
Both SJR and SJ has already mention this and that they will not bid against themselves without further information.
Ineos for all their wealth has a limited budget if they’re cooperating with Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan. Higher interest rates will affect their possibility to raise their initial bid. I assume that his partners has demanded a few clauses and specific targets that has to met before the they can upper their bid above a certain level. That’s a limitation.
That’s why I think SJ and his NTF has the best chance to win this. He’s not restricted the same way and has more financial flexibility if they has to significantly upper their bid. This is off course a qualified guess from my part but with all the information available it’s difficult to see any other scenario.
English? eww
Of course it is. The Glazers are playing the game.
They can't though. The haircut down the road on the minority equity The Glazers would need to give away to make it work for them to keep control would be worth almost as MOST of the profit they make on 80% of their asking price sale. They need a full sale. Any investment fund would jump at the chance to get cheap equity to take out the debt here if they had the cash. the Glazers are going to go full sale...
Question is are Qatar prepared to play?
They already are. As is JR
Bah gawd
I mean, they are in the process but are they willing to play the Glazers games at this point, or like Zilliacus do they get exasperated and walk away?
They haven’t walked away and are going the distance
let’s hope you’re right.
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'Doug Greenberg has written for the Premier Lacrosse League and RotoWire, and done video work for VSiN, Big Ten Network, and Stadium.' This from Front Office Sports' website. Not a heavy hitter I suspect but maybe our American friends can enlighten us.
Sheik Jassim remains 'confident' of getting the deal done, but the leeches want to see what Ares and Carlyle are offering.
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...er-united-deal-minority-interest-carlyle-ares
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...er-united-deal-minority-interest-carlyle-ares
I'm at the point with this where as long as the cede control of any decision making, they can stay as minority shareholders, keep taking a dividend (for 2 people, not 6) and just let whoever comes in run things for the next 5 to 10 years until they finally feck off for good.
As long as they're calling the shots we're doomed to be shite.
As long as they're calling the shots we're doomed to be shite.
Nah mate, they’ve had their time and they need to go. Any dividends paid out will continue to be a millstone around the clubs neck. We shouldn’t be tempering our expectations now, it’s the right time with big cash on the table to push them out the door. We may never have a better chance.
I want them gone 100% but if they are dead set on staying then I hope they stay on someone else's terms and not their's otherwise Ten Hag is fecked and so are our chances of anything. The dividend payout would be less than £9m a season also, which isn't great but it would be better than what's happening now.
I hope they're banished ASAP though.
No words can describe how much i hate these parasites!
Get the feck out of our club!
Get the feck out of our club!
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I can’t see why they would stay on somebody else’s terms tbh. I think they are looking for investment that sees them remain in charge and I’m not sure they will find it.
I’m hoping they listen to the markets fluctuating when news of them staying comes out and sell while their stock is high. Fingers crossed.
Feels like Keegan and Jamie Jackson have the same source throughout this
If anything it's got watered down with the passage of time, much as this was settled with Magnier and McManus before the takeover, I think it's clear this would have had a a fairly big impact of these guys thinking leading up to the Glazers coming sniffing around, they would have been very bitter about having to pay out Fergie the money they did, and to be fair it was a very good way at hitting back at him, if that was indeed the intention.
Rock Of Gibralter was a monster of a racehorse and Fergie must have seen the pound signs, he could have earned a fortune from the breeding fee, so I can't say I blame him, the issue I think was that they didn't think the horse would be that good, and so it wasn't cleared up properly from the start.
Keegan to the rescue!
Ogden is always the doom merchant. Obviously different sources to Jackson and Keegan.
Not sure about the provenance (where it was reported and what it was based on) but weren't there stories soon after that Magnier specifically wanted to ensure Glazers got the club because he foresaw what the outcome was likely to be, especially given the model they were proposing for placing the club in debt and their lack of plan for doing anything progressive with it except milking it, and saw it as a way to spite SAF (whilst making money). Not sure about the exact quote, but something along the lines of 'wanting to find the worst people to sell United to, and by good fortune they were already there'...
You can tell a lot about a journalist by the media company they keep. Ogden is always lounging around with those ABUs on ESPN. I think we can assume Keegan and Jackson are on the pulse more than Ogden.
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Calling it potential outrage is a bit silly, certain or guaranteed would be my choice of words.
HOLD THE FRONT PAGE!!
They'd be torn limb from limb if they ever came to Old Trafford again. They'd need an SAS bodyguard at the very least.
Yes but someone must surely be advising them to play the long game and hold out, they just don’t seem smart enough to have thought of doing this without encouragement.
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