It's obviously a yellow card. However, that chest bump against Dunk was hilarious.
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"Kick"
Yeah, terrible kick that.Players fouling opponents with no intention of getting the ball happens nearly every game. The "an act of revenge" part is just you pretending to be a mind reader.
It's a yellow, that's it. No referee worth his salt would give a red in that situation. That's why you hardly ever see it for those type of fouls.
The amount of bias is unreal. He's lucky he doesn't hit him cleaner because he's never learned how to kick with his right leg but that takes nothing away from the intention. Look up the definition of violent conduct, it's a clear red by the letter of the law.
Not to mention his antics against Dunk and the linesman could have easily gotten him another yellow.
Not to mention his antics against Dunk and the linesman could have easily gotten him another yellow.
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Here it is, from the FA website:
VIOLENT CONDUCT
Violent conduct is when a player uses or attempts to use excessive force or brutality against an opponent when not challenging for the ball, or against a team-mate, team official, match official, spectator or any other person, regardless of whether contact is made.
In addition, a player who, when not challenging for the ball, deliberately strikes an opponent or any other person on the head or face with the hand or arm, is guilty of violent conduct unless the force used was negligible.
Hardly excessive force or brutal. And even ignoring that, regarding precedence, those types of fouls are almost always punished with yellow cards.
"Attempts to use". No, he doesn't hit him with great force due to his right leg not working. But he tries to.
Another one that happens so often, right? Can you point to 5 (hell, make it 3) examples in the Premier League in the last decade where a player was punished with 2 separate yellow cards in an incident like this?
You’ve deliberately ignored the bit where it says attempts to use excessive force. Did Antony need to go and kick him like he did? Could easily have seen a straight red with no complaints.
Martinez kicks him like that and everyone is in the match thread saying how brilliant he is and it's great to have a South American warrior in the team.
Antony does is and it's a straight red card and he's got nothing between his ears.
Can't imagine why.
Antony does is and it's a straight red card and he's got nothing between his ears.
Can't imagine why.
Because that's all in your head.
This is an interesting approach. Personally I am fairly confident he won't be a success here. At the same time, I think he's doing OK but that is because I have very low expectations of Antony. I basically see him as a midfielder who sometimes goes a bit more forward.
To all those who are more on "optimistic" side, I ask what attacking qualities you see in Antony which are above average and make you think he'll succeed here. "he works hard" is an important aspect of the game but doesn't directly help us to score goals.
You're the one telling people they're biased for telling you it's not a red card pal.
After you called me fecking mental for saying it was a red. Don't really think you have the high ground here.
I'm not going for any form of moral high ground, if you genuinely believe that was a red you are fecking mental. It's a strong yellow card all day.
Erik why did you sign him,surely we could have found another RW and you know had something left for a striker too.
I thinks he's had a decent first season and has gotten much more adventurous as it's worn on, I'm very much looking forward to watching him next season.
I'm usually one for giving players time and I'm often more optimistic about players than the caf generally.
Not on this one though. We've bought shitty Quaresma for 100m.
Not on this one though. We've bought shitty Quaresma for 100m.
A few goals and a single assist isn't decent in the slightest
Premier League - 1540 Mins - 4 Goals and 1 Assist = 308 Per goal cont
League Cup - 310 mins - 1 Goal and 0 Assists= 310 Per goal cont
Europa League - 639 Mins - 2 Goals and 0 Assists = 320 Per goal cont
FA Cup - 354 Mins - 1 Goal and 1 Assist = 177 Per goal cont
Total = 2,843 Mins - 8 Goals and 2 Assists = 284 Per goal cont which means a goal contribution just under every 5 games, now I know he has to balance out Rashford and be more of a defensive outlet but those aren't good stats even for a first season, really needs to pick up the productivity big time but Ten Hag seems to trust him and I trust Ten Hag so here's hoping!
League Cup - 310 mins - 1 Goal and 0 Assists= 310 Per goal cont
Europa League - 639 Mins - 2 Goals and 0 Assists = 320 Per goal cont
FA Cup - 354 Mins - 1 Goal and 1 Assist = 177 Per goal cont
Total = 2,843 Mins - 8 Goals and 2 Assists = 284 Per goal cont which means a goal contribution just under every 5 games, now I know he has to balance out Rashford and be more of a defensive outlet but those aren't good stats even for a first season, really needs to pick up the productivity big time but Ten Hag seems to trust him and I trust Ten Hag so here's hoping!
Hopefully we will have other options for the RW position next season.
Eh? He's probably faster than every player in the squad not named Rashford or Elanga.
The league numbers appear far worse when you consider that he had 3 goals in his first 3 games, the other goal and assist came in the same game.
He's only contributed a goal or assist in 19% of the games he's played in this season in the PL and has no goal or assist in 17 of his last 18 PL games.
I'm not really a stats person but his play on the field reflects the numbers too. His best football has been in the Europa League but the league performance is where signings are judged.
Right before he kicked out, I said to the wife, watch him lose his head now.
she replied with “i don’t really care”
But I was right.
she replied with “i don’t really care”
But I was right.
I get what you’re saying but Salah looked a talent at Basel and scored the winner against Chelsea in the UCL. You could see what his strengths were even when he wasn’t playing well. I don’t see anything yet from Antony to believe he will be something special.
I am just shocked to see him use his right foot.
I like him and I think he's got a lot of good qualities but just two assists is very disappointing from a winger who also isn't a prolific goalscorer. He still might reach double figures in goals for us this season but his chance creation has to get better.
Convinced he's another Sancho
This. It wasn't late or hard enough to warrant a red. 'A strong yellow' is probably the best way of putting it. It was bad enough that it would be kept in mind and a second yellow might come a bit quicker than normal, but not enough to be a red itself.
Username quite fits the context.
Who are the left footed RWs comfortably better than Antony?
Dembele
Mahrez
Bernardo Silva
Phil Foden
Saka
Salah
Gnarby (is he played there?)
Dembele
Mahrez
Bernardo Silva
Phil Foden
Saka
Salah
Gnarby (is he played there?)
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When we all know Casemiro got sent off for feck all, it's being purposely blind or stupid to say Antony had no chance of getting sent off. The mere fact that he could give the ref a decision to make is as risky as it is pointless.
What the feck was there to gain from kicking a player completely unrelated to what happened to him ?
We need to stop thinking about what we think could be a red card and focus more on what the ref can deem to be one and we've seen too many instances of them being incoherent and inconsistent.
What Antony did was beyond idiotic, you never give a PL ref a chance to book you when there's absolutely no necessity.
Petulant kicks like Antony's one should be red cards. I am sure ETH knows this and will be telling Antony accordingly.
Antony is a hot head and very passionate about his trade, this leads him into situations like the one on Thursday but his passion is also something that will make him improve year on year.
Solly march
Olise
Almiron
Olise
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This is violent conduct. He doesnt go for the ball. He's pissed off and wants to kick someone
I’ll agree that it’s unnecessary to give the ref a decision to make, and I’d prefer he didn’t, even if I appreciate his passion. But I maintain that players usually end up yellows in these types of situasjons, not reds.
I've seen reds given to them, kicking a player while the ball is away out of pure frustration, I can guarantee if they did that to us, we'd all want that player sent off. That had no business on a football pitch
Dunno why we’re arguing whether it was yellow or red. It was a stupid thing to do regardless. If you’re going to get booked then get booked doing something which benefits the team. Not throwing a fecking tantrum. He needs to cut that shit out.
Solly March is better than him ffs. Much rather have in our team than Antony.
Our fanbase get so blinkered with new signings. He's just not very good and we've had our pants pulled down.
He's slow, he's no right foot and his decision making is woeful. ETH didn't realize the step up from Dutch league to PL I don't think. This lad doesn't have it.
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