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to be fair...that pun was not intended. that's too bad and obvious a jokeI see what you did there.
to be fair...that pun was not intended. that's too bad and obvious a jokeI see what you did there.
Did he mean only 5 players our squad were worth more than £60m?"One year ago we did a benchmark and there were only five players above £60m," he said.
"Now you see all over many clubs investing high rates in their squads. The competition is very tough in the Premier League but we are happy with the squad we constructed."
Not sure without context, i think he meant last season there are only 5-6 players who cost more than 60 Million in PL or in that summer.Can someone who saw the interview explain what Ten Hag meant by this please?
Did he mean only 5 players our squad were worth more than £60m?
I would imagine he meant within the PL. I cant think of 5 players within the United squad that would be worth more than 60mil. Rashford, Bruno, Garnashers only.Can someone who saw the interview explain what Ten Hag meant by this please?
Did he mean only 5 players our squad were worth more than £60m?
I'm also curious what this benchmarking exercise was about. Did they look at player values across top clubs to get a sense of what it would cost to compile a United squad of Ten Hag's liking together?Can someone who saw the interview explain what Ten Hag meant by this please?
Did he mean only 5 players our squad were worth more than £60m?
I think he meant only five players moved for over 60 million but there were six...unless the threshold is above 60 in which case we'd consider Casemiro at 70m.Can someone who saw the interview explain what Ten Hag meant by this please?
Did he mean only 5 players our squad were worth more than £60m?"One year ago we did a benchmark and there were only five players above £60m," he said.
"Now you see all over many clubs investing high rates in their squads. The competition is very tough in the Premier League but we are happy with the squad we constructed."
This looks to be trueNot sure without context, i think he meant last season there are only 5-6 players who cost more than 60 Million in PL or in that summer.
Have to check if it's true.
Date | Name | Moving from | Moving to | Fee |
---|---|---|---|---|
1 September 2022 | Antony | Ajax | Manchester United | £82m |
22 August 2022 | Casemiro | Real Madrid | Manchester United | £70m |
31 August 2022 | Wesley Fofana | Leicester City | Chelsea | £70m |
14 June 2022 | Darwin Núñez | Benfica | Liverpool | £64m |
1 July 2022 | Richarlison (sale) | Everton | Tottenham Hotspur | £60m |
5 August 2022 | Marc Cucurella | Brighton & Hove Albion | Chelsea | £60m |
26 August 2022 | Alexander Isak | Real Sociedad | Newcastle United | £60m |
Date | Name | Moving from | Moving to | Fee |
---|---|---|---|---|
15 July 2023 | Declan Rice | West Ham United | Arsenal | £105m |
12 August 2023 | Harry Kane (sale) | Tottenham Hotspur | Bayern Munich | £95m |
5 August 2023 | Joško Gvardiol | RB Leipzig | Manchester City | £77m |
5 August 2023 | Rasmus Højlund | Atalanta | Manchester United | £72m |
28 June 2023 | Kai Havertz | Chelsea | Arsenal | £65m |
2 July 2023 | Dominik Szoboszlai | RB Leipzig | Liverpool | £60m |
This was a year back, so unlikely Garnacho was included back then. Rashford had a terrible season before that. Bruno was probably the only one in that range although he probably had DVB and Martial pushing him for that spot.I would imagine he meant within the PL. I cant think of 5 players within the United squad that would be worth more than 60mil. Rashford, Bruno, Garnashers only.
Until Rashford shows consistency over consecutive seasons, I reckon he'll be around the 60-65 mil mark not any higher. He is still a gamble signing for most teams unlike say someone like Harry Kane.I would imagine he meant within the PL. I cant think of 5 players within the United squad that would be worth more than 60mil. Rashford, Bruno, Garnashers only.
From a transfer fee perspective there were 6 current players signed for over £60m one year ago:I would imagine he meant within the PL. I cant think of 5 players within the United squad that would be worth more than 60mil. Rashford, Bruno, Garnashers only.
Bruno and Martial didn't cost that much.From a transfer fee perspective there were 6 current players signed for over £60m one year ago:
Martial
Bruno
Casemiro
Sancho
Maguire
Antony
Source:
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/transferrekorde/wettbewerb/GB1
I assume that's what he means.
Can someone who saw the interview explain what Ten Hag meant by this please?
Did he mean only 5 players our squad were worth more than £60m?
I'm also curious what this benchmarking exercise was about. Did they look at player values across top clubs to get a sense of what it would cost to compile a United squad of Ten Hag's liking together?
It's about PL spending, here is the video of his PC.From a transfer fee perspective there were 6 current players signed for over £60m one year ago:
Martial
Bruno
Casemiro
Sancho
Maguire
Antony
Source:
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/transferrekorde/wettbewerb/GB1
I assume that's what he means.
Rashford 60-65 million?Until Rashford shows consistency over consecutive seasons, I reckon he'll be around the 60-65 mil mark not any higher. He is still a gamble signing for most teams unlike say someone like Harry Kane.
We've just bought a child who in comparison has done nothing in the game for around that money? What a silly thing to sayUntil Rashford shows consistency over consecutive seasons, I reckon he'll be around the 60-65 mil mark not any higher. He is still a gamble signing for most teams unlike say someone like Harry Kane.
Fecking hell, a player that scored 30 goals and got 11 assists last season is only worth £65m. Where can we find more players like this at the same price? Asking for a friend called Erik.Until Rashford shows consistency over consecutive seasons, I reckon he'll be around the 60-65 mil mark not any higher. He is still a gamble signing for most teams unlike say someone like Harry Kane.
Thank God you are not in charge of transfers at the club.Until Rashford shows consistency over consecutive seasons, I reckon he'll be around the 60-65 mil mark not any higher. He is still a gamble signing for most teams unlike say someone like Harry Kane.
Taking in to account the insane transfer fees being paid these days, Rashford would easily demand £150m+Until Rashford shows consistency over consecutive seasons, I reckon he'll be around the 60-65 mil mark not any higher. He is still a gamble signing for most teams unlike say someone like Harry Kane.
It's 2023 mate.Until Rashford shows consistency over consecutive seasons, I reckon he'll be around the 60-65 mil mark not any higher. He is still a gamble signing for most teams unlike say someone like Harry Kane.
60-65 milUntil Rashford shows consistency over consecutive seasons, I reckon he'll be around the 60-65 mil mark not any higher. He is still a gamble signing for most teams unlike say someone like Harry Kane.
You’re right and therein lies the problem with modern day football and player valuations. One amazing season out of several mediocre seasons and Rashford’s value sky rockets.Fecking hell, a player that scored 30 goals and got 11 assists last season is only worth £65m. Where can we find more players like this at the same price? Asking for a friend called Erik.
Caicedo just went for 110-115m and you think Rashford would go for 60-65 mil.Until Rashford shows consistency over consecutive seasons, I reckon he'll be around the 60-65 mil mark not any higher. He is still a gamble signing for most teams unlike say someone like Harry Kane.
Rashford literally had 1 mediocre season. What are you even on about?You’re right and therein lies the problem with modern day football and player valuations. One amazing season out of several mediocre seasons and Rashford’s value sky rockets.
I see your point. Rashford is a decent player for the most part (despite moments of inconsistency) but I struggle to see how he’d recreate last season’s form and I’d also struggle to put him in the same category as Haaland and Mbappe .Caicedo just went for 110-115m and you think Rashford would go for 60-65 mil.
It's insane how some of our own fans underrate some of our best players.
Madness, Rashford is one of the most valuable players in the world. You have to consider as well that the marketability of footballers also comes in to the equation. He would sell for a world record fee, all things considered (ability, age, marketability, brand, current contract length, etc).I see your point. Rashford is a decent player for the most part (despite moments of inconsistency) but I struggle to see how he’d recreate last season’s form and I’d also struggle to put him in the same category as Haaland and Mbappe .
And if we sell him eventually for over 130mil then as a fan I’d be delighted that we’ve made a solid profit.
A player’s value actually says very little about their real world quality it seems.Perhaps, I need to keep up with the times!
Fair point.Madness, Rashford is one of the most valuable players in the world. You have to consider as well that the marketability of footballers also comes in to the equation. He would sell for a world record fee, all things considered (ability, age, marketability, brand, current contract length, etc).
Actually this is the problem with modern day football fans, memory of a goldfish.You’re right and therein lies the problem with modern day football and player valuations. One amazing season out of several mediocre seasons and Rashford’s value sky rockets.
Brilliant vid!! I'm pumped up for the new season!!
Good post. Unfortunately, I don't think that issue will be resolved until Antony stops being a deadweight in an attack or we move on from him. I can't see us doing that for at least another 2 seasons because of the amount of money we've been made to spend on him.He’s done some brilliant work so far, and has instilled discipline and structure to the playing side that had been lacking before. I don’t think it’s been unbridled perfection though, and I have some question marks regarding his transfer strategy but most importantly - you can’t be seen as one of the very top coaches until your team can make loads of chances and score loads of goals. The days of being a heralded coach at the very top of the game by organising your team well and being hard to beat are gone. As they say, ‘the hardest thing in football is scoring goals’.
Klopp, Guardiola and Arteta have all built teams that are free scoring. Our team gets progressively worse the further forward we go from back to front. We can build play well from the back, and we will likely be even better in that aspect now - but what we do once the ball gets to the front is not even near the level of a top side. That’s the next challenge for Ten Hag and will determine just how good he is as a coach/manager. Can his team score 80+ league goals? 58 is far from good enough, and if that is repeated this term, I think he’ll still be considered behind the very elite. Can we see a weak PL team and put 5 or 6 past them?
And if that happens to be the case then it is a direct blot against Ten Hag and one of the reasons I will hold him just below the elite. Antony wasn’t forced upon him, if he can’t get him to the level required then it’s on him, and also a question of his recruitment strategy, which has shown a clear bias to players he knows from the Eridevise.Good post. Unfortunately, I don't think that issue will be resolved until Antony stops being a deadweight in an attack or we move on from him. I can't see us doing that for at least another 2 seasons because of the amount of money we've been made to spend on him.
He delivered last year by comfortably finishing top 4 and winning a trophy.Well, this is it. Ten Hag has received time and investment most other managers can only dream of. He got many of the players he wanted. There can be no more excuses and the time to deliver is at hand. Comfortable Top 5, a vastly improved and competent football leading to a lot more goals, and an end to the seasonal humiliations at the hands of rival teams are my expectations for this season. And I believe they are fair. Fall short of this and this could get hairy for him before long.
One season! Rashfords career goals for United is 139, you know what Rooney’s is? 183! And I don’t think I need to remind you that Rooney is United’s all time leading goal scorer.You’re right and therein lies the problem with modern day football and player valuations. One amazing season out of several mediocre seasons and Rashford’s value sky rockets.
Inspiring video, let's do it.
True. But this season is gearing up to be very competitive, and if we perform like last season chances are we might not make it. And there's also the Champions League. An improvement is mandatory and expected.He delivered last year by comfortably finishing top 4 and winning a trophy.
Arteta??? How many years has he been a manager? Too much credit given.He’s done some brilliant work so far, and has instilled discipline and structure to the playing side that had been lacking before. I don’t think it’s been unbridled perfection though, and I have some question marks regarding his transfer strategy but most importantly - you can’t be seen as one of the very top coaches until your team can make loads of chances and score loads of goals. The days of being a heralded coach at the very top of the game by organising your team well and being hard to beat are gone. As they say, ‘the hardest thing in football is scoring goals’.
Klopp, Guardiola and Arteta have all built teams that are free scoring. Our team gets progressively worse the further forward we go from back to front. We can build play well from the back, and we will likely be even better in that aspect now - but what we do once the ball gets to the front is not even near the level of a top side. That’s the next challenge for Ten Hag and will determine just how good he is as a coach/manager. Can his team score 80+ league goals? 58 is far from good enough, and if that is repeated this term, I think he’ll still be considered behind the very elite. Can we see a weak PL team and put 5 or 6 past them?
Improvement in what sense? If we finish 3rd again and win a trophy it’ll be a good season. Like you say - the competition is fierce this year.True. But this season is gearing up to be very competitive, and if we perform like last season chances are we might not make it. And there's also the Champions League. An improvement is mandatory and expected.
Funny isn't it? I reckon we won't be accepting even 150m for him if those no names midfielders are going for obscene amount and we just signed a teenager who is yet to have a breakout season for 72m.Rashford 60-65 million?