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UnitedWA

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He is shite, and we are shite to buy him for 60 mil. in his last year of contract. And Kane was 100 mil.
 

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Put Tonali in his place and we look a million miles better unfortunately.

I don't have a clue how we solve the problem either as he's not going to get dropped any time soon, so we need him desperately to adapt somehow. We keep hearing how he's a great coaches player so hopefully it's something he can learn quickly.
He is not a midfielder. You can tell him to run and to press, but you cannot teach him to create from deep, control the tempo and show for the ball. You have it or not. Mount hasnt got it.
 

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I bet if we had an all time world XI they'd be shite in a United shirt
 

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At the moment, I'm just not sure what role ten Hag is asking him to play, but going forward, I think in order to get the best from Mount, we need to push him on as the highest midfielder, where he can use his intelligent runs to get on the end of things.
I think the big issue is that all these 'clever' players who make intelligent runs and work in the space like Veron, Kagawa, Mata, Van de Beek etc have never really found their feet at this club.

We simply don't know how to use them and its in the DNA of this club. We should really realise that by now and stop buying such players, especially for big money.
 

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I think the big issue is that all these 'clever' players who make intelligent runs and work in the space like Veron, Kagawa, Mata, Van de Beek etc have never really found their feet at this club.

We simply don't know how to use them and its in the DNA of this club. We should really realise that by now and stop buying such players, especially for big money.
Difference is, all of those players, other than Mata, had no Premier League experience before joining United - Mount has, For that reason, ten Hag should know to play him closer to the oppositions goal, as he clearly has an eye for goal.
 

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Difference is, all of those players, other than Mata, had no Premier League experience before joining United - Mount has, For that reason, ten Hag should know to play him closer to the oppositions goal, as he clearly has an eye for goal.
No he really doesn't though. Apart from one good season, the rest of the time he's scored less than 10 goals a season.

It's nowhere near Bruno's numbers, so how can you justify dropping Bruno at 10?
 

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No he really doesn't though. Apart from one good season, the rest of the time he's scored less than 10 goals a season.

It's nowhere near Bruno's numbers, so how can you justify dropping Bruno at 10?
Because Bruno is much better than Mount in the deeper position, and the only way to find the balance is by making that tweak.

For example. Sabitzer is also a player that didn't boast a better goalscoring record than Bruno as a 10, yet when ten Hag moved Bruno deeper and pushed Sabitzer as a 10, we saw an instant change in our play for the better. This is why I'm slightly confused as to why ten Hag is experimenting with what effectively is the same kind of situation. Hopefully his stubbornness doesn't hurt us!
 

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Because Bruno is much better than Mount in the deeper position, and the only way to find the balance is by making that tweak.

For example. Sabitzer is also a player that didn't boast a better goalscoring record than Bruno as a 10, yet when ten Hag moved Bruno deeper and pushed Sabitzer as a 10, we saw an instant change in our play for the better. This is why I'm slightly confused as to why ten Hag is experimenting with what effectively is the same kind of situation. Hopefully his stubbornness doesn't hurt us!
Bruno may be better than Mount in the deeper positions, but Mount is definitely not better than Bruno closer to goal, so you lose Bruno's end product if you play him too deep.

In essence, Mount simply isn't better than Bruno at anything so to blunt Bruno just to accommodate Mount makes no sense to me.

Might as well try it though, since we already spent that 50 million...
 

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Mason Mount needs time, however I’m staggered when I look at what and why we’ve recruited and how the club have indulged ETH so much, he’s now nearly spent £400m and we still look like we need. 4 or 5 first team players.

Mount with 12 months on his contract was never worth £55-60m, we should have walked away and bought clearly the better player James Maddison ( A united Fan) and saved £15m. Antony was ETH biggest mistake, not only is he distinctly average but we had Sancho, Amad and Pellistri, the club could and should have bought B Mbeumo or M Olise for probably £40/50m last year and saved £35m, the club overpaid for Hojlund by £20m and all that together is £70m which could have bought a top class CDM/CM like Amrabat and younger version like R Gravenbirch and still gave us £15m to go buy another CFW like Gift Orban or Marcos Leonardo

The club are a shambles but ETH needs to lose his stubborn streak quickly or he lose his job to Roberto De Zerbi ?
 

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60 million + completely wasted on a player that doesn't fit what we need.

Never rated him at Chelsea and now we're lumbered with him.

That's another huge mistake from ETH to go alongside Antony.
 

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I feel for him. Nobody can perform in our current setup.
This is what I currently feel.

I feel it's too easy to jump on him because he's a new signing and the team as a whole are not performing.

I am, however, starting to think that we have bought in a player that doesn't necessarily fix anything at the club. At the same time, I do think he will be useful and will be (eventually) a good player for the club.
 

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I'm not a fan of him but I thought he was solid in the first half, especially the opening period of the game. By 2nd half though, he was a complete nonfactor. It's inexcusable for a midfielder to be this uninvolved in a game, his number of passes is shocking.
 

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It's not the player, it's the prioritisation that is the issue
 

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I'm not a fan of him but I thought he was solid in the first half, especially the opening period of the game. By 2nd half though, he was a complete nonfactor. It's inexcusable for a midfielder to be this uninvolved in a game, his number of passes is shocking.
Think this is fair. However given he's a marquee signing you want much much more from him.. don't know if him and Bruno will work together. It looks like it needs to be one or the other
 

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Shock horror twentieth century model of allowing managers to pick transfers turns out to be a bad idea. The mad thing is after Ole we're still permitting it. Club doesn't have a clue from top to bottom.
 

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Should never have signed him, massive waste of money. Chelsea laughing at us
 

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Shock horror twentieth century model of allowing managers to pick transfers turns out to be a bad idea. The mad thing is after Ole we're still permitting it. Club doesn't have a clue from top to bottom.
Shock horror, 21st century fans are overcome with doom and gloom 2 matches into a season
 

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Shock horror, 21st century fans are overcome with doom and gloom 2 matches into a season
I remember replies like this in the early Maguire days. . . Half a season in it’ll be because Casemiro’s legs have gone or Bruno is too adventurous, then next year when he’s meh it’ll be something else.

I actually don’t dislike Mount, if he came through our set up I’d love to have a player like him fill out the squad but he will never be a starter in a great United side. That’s no shame but 2 games in or not it’s clear to see he isn’t particularly special, that plus the many years we’ve seen him with Chelsea & England of course.
 

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His lack of involvement is quite worrying, especially as ten Hag said he wants him to play deeper. However, 17 passes in 84 minutes suggests this is a player who, as I mentioned before, isn't getting on the ball. To put this into perspective, Erisken, who came on in the 65th minute, made he same number of passes today.

At the moment, I'm just not sure what role ten Hag is asking him to play, but going forward, I think in order to get the best from Mount, we need to push him on as the highest midfielder, where he can use his intelligent runs to get on the end of things.
Every one said it. Mount is a player who goes hiding in games. He is a like a cherry on top of a cake. We are in desperate need of a cake.
 

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This is what I currently feel.

I feel it's too easy to jump on him because he's a new signing and the team as a whole are not performing.

I am, however, starting to think that we have bought in a player that doesn't necessarily fix anything at the club. At the same time, I do think he will be useful and will be (eventually) a good player for the club.
If he is the only midfielder we signed this summer, then it’s curtains for EtH by December. And the next manager might not need Mount at all.
 

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I remember replies like this in the early Maguire days. . . Half a season in it’ll be because Casemiro’s legs have gone or Bruno is too adventurous, then next year when he’s meh it’ll be something else.

I actually don’t dislike Mount, if he came through our set up I’d love to have a player like him fill out the squad but he will never be a starter in a great United side. That’s no shame but 2 games in or not it’s clear to see he isn’t particularly special, that plus the many years we’ve seen him with Chelsea & England of course.
Me, I'm gonna wait until I see a few more games and particularly one with an actual striker