[RonaldoVII]

Hope he starts again on Saturday. It's hardly fair expecting him to light it up away to Bayern Munich and then dropped after it. Give him a couple of more starts in the next 2 games.

 

[flameinthesun]

Which means absolutely nothing because he either loses it immediately after or shoots it out of play.

Pellistri has looked no worse than Antony in what little times he has been given. Granted, that bar couldn't be any lower. But he was pitted against Alphonso Davies at Allianz Arena in his first outing.

Pellistri is comfortably worse. He hasn't got Antony's touch, close control and aggression. Now I'm not Antony's biggest fan but to think that Pellistri who didn't even stand out in the reserves, or at Alaves or in any of his united appearances is even close to Antony is ludicrous. It's not even like Pellistri is a teen, the guy is going to be 22 this year. If you couldn't see the difference between a United team with Antony and one without last season then that's you.

Do we potentially need to upgrade Antony? Probably, but not with Pellistri.

 

[erikcred]

Is it just me or that was a penalty from Davies on him? How was that not reviewed?

Easily a penalty. The defender got the ball by going through him. Not very different from that Van Dijk red card v Newcastle.

Having said that, from the slow-mo I don't understand from Pellistri's body shape how he was planning to put the ball in the net. Was he planning to take a touch hoping no one was around him?

 

[tomaldinho1]

He did not. Did not create anything and neither did our right wing overall.

He did fine for what us essentially our 4th or 5th choice RW.

 

[pascell]

People calling him a youngster but he's 22 in a few months, he should be much further ahead in his development than he is. He's just not good enough, simple as that

 

[AltiUn]

People calling him a youngster but he's 22 in a few months, he should be much further ahead in his development than he is. He's just not good enough, simple as that

21 is still young, it's not his fault his development stalled, we haven't had a plan to develop him since he signed. It's a problem we seem to have for a lot of our younger players and have had for years.

 

[RedStarUnited]

People calling him a youngster but he's 22 in a few months, he should be much further ahead in his development than he is. He's just not good enough, simple as that

He can’t develop on the bench.

Antony was playing every game no matter how shit he was the game before.

 

[Zed 101]

Pellistri is too slight, I think that is the biggest issue, he put in a good shift but not sure he has what it takes to make the 1st 11 proper, think he showed what we lack when Antony plays in terms of running past and in behind defenders, Antony is very solid and rarely loses the ball but slows down the attack and rarely creates anything

I think Rashford right Garnacho left is a better option TBH

 

[pascell]

21 is still young, it's not his fault his development stalled, we haven't had a plan to develop him since he signed. It's a problem we seem to have for a lot of our younger players and have had for years.

He can’t develop on the bench.

Antony was playing every game no matter how shit he was the game before.

He accepted to go back to Alaves after barely playing the 1st season with them, he should've pressed for a better loan move.

 

[RedAlert27]

Such horseshit criticising the young lad in his first start this season, against one of the quickest FB’s in football, against older and more experienced players.
Pellistri hasn’t had much game time at all, only infrequent minutes here and there and people expect him to be Messi or something.
The team as a whole we’re not playing great and were being dominated by Bayern after they took the lead, so how could you expect the lad to somehow put on a masterclass, all on his own?

I think he did fairly well in the circumstances and should be given the chance to get more playing time, to see how far he can go.
It’s not as if there isn’t a vacancy crying out to be filled atm.
As others have said, he was fairly tidy and put in some good work in that early spell in the 1st half.

Did Rashford do any better on the LW after a few early runs?
No, he was isolated and owned by Upamecano for most of the match, even if he made the final pass for Rasmus’ goal.


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Couldn't agree more. I don't understand any criticism of him on here last night. Pressured Davies several times and regained possession, neat and tidy. Him and Reguilon were our two best performers last night.

 

[KikiDaKats]

Would have probably been better starting McTominay against Bayern. Pellistri is a good prospect, but I think McTominay would have been better suited and I think it was clear for all to see after he came on that United looked better.

Ouch. That’s painful.

 

[led_scholes]

If he has okayish performances like yesterday's one for the rest of the year at least we will be able to sell him for a profit. He wasn't that bad yesterday and he was against Davies. Let's wait till he starts 7-8 games with different opponents and see how he does it.

 

[Rampant Red Rodriguez]

Hopefully he plays week in week out and holds down the RW spot. The pressure on him to perform straight away from no playing time is insane by some people. Let's see how he does vs weaker opponents now he has shown admirable spirit against a giant.

 

[Sea-Cow]

It was a big ask for him and he was going up against someone extremely quick, and I think Pellistri worked hard defensively to help out his fullback. But, unfortunately, he offered no attacking threat whatsoever.

He is very slight and easily outmuscled off the ball, and it doesn't look like he has blistering pace to offset that. That isn't necessarily a deal breaker for a player to make a career at the top, but he would need to be a magician in the mold of Mata, and I am not sure he has the quality.

Oh well. Its not like Antony, Garnacho, or Sancho would have done any better.

 

[ti vu]

It was a big ask for him and he was going up against someone extremely quick, and I think Pellistri worked hard defensively to help out his fullback. But, unfortunately, he offered no attacking threat whatsoever.

He is very slight and easily outmuscled off the ball, and it doesn't look like he has blistering pace to offset that. That isn't necessarily a deal breaker for a player to make a career at the top, but he would need to be a magician in the mold of Mata, and I am not sure he has the quality.

Oh well. Its not like Antony, Garnacho, or Sancho would have done any better.

That's false. Those three may be inconsistent between games and within game, with disastrous bottom level, but they have noticeable impactful ceiling. Said players may be out of form, but you have hope they can play into form or some flashes of brilliance, since there are evidence of talent level. You notice they're playing bad as well as their (little) impact since they're at least relevant. Pellistri hasn't shown anything that suggest he's even better than Elanga who nobody oppose his sale. Just consistent blunt and invisible for his role.

 

[Sea-Cow]

That's false. Those three may be inconsistent between games and within game, with disastrous bottom level, but they have noticeable impactful ceiling. Said players may be out of form, but you have hope they can play into form or some flashes of brilliance, since there are evidence of talent level. You notice they're playing bad as well as their (little) impact since they're at least relevant. Pellistri hasn't shown anything that suggest he's even better than Elanga who nobody oppose his sale. Just consistent blunt and invisible for his role.

You might be right but I was referring specifically to last night. None of those 3 mentioned would have done anything against Davies if they were selected (Garnacho), or if they were available (the other two).

 

[Plant0x84]

People calling him a youngster but he's 22 in a few months, he should be much further ahead in his development than he is. He's just not good enough, simple as that

A lot of this rests on Uniteds shoulders allowing him out on crappy loans, playing him in the reserves and barely giving him playing time up to now. He has more minutes for his national team than he does for his club. That’s insane.

 

[ti vu]

You might be right but I was referring specifically to last night. None of those 3 mentioned would have done anything against Davies if they were selected (Garnacho), or if they were available (the other two).

They don't need to be influential to "do better". Pellistri performance is that nothing burger IMO. The early chance fell Pellistri way more likely end up a goal if that was them 3. Why? Because stats indicates Pellistri was not just poor but borderlining no end product. The other 3 may be underwhelming, but they at least have some know how in some moment, where as in that instance Pellistri showed his inexperience, lack of attacker instinct.

Sancho played assisted, and scored against Bayern playing RW (a different Bayern but still strong and all, nor we're having the same Sancho). I don't expect strong performance, just make some moment count with existing talent. Something Pellistri seems to lack.

Rashford didn't do something great when he got switched to right wing toward the end, but at least he helped making our right wing relevant. If somebody putting an effort but his position feels like a void on the pitch, that's an issue in itself.

 

[MrBest]

Funny how people write off a youngster after one start against one of the favourites in the champions league and against one of the fastest full backs in the world. I think the jury is still out, he needs games and chances to see what he is about. Fact is, he is our only natural right winger right now. Rashford has been awful on the left so far this year, what makes anyone think he can do it on the right, when we know that is not natural for him. Bruno is not a right mid, neither is Mctominay (can't believe I read a post suggesting he should have started ahead of him). Give the boy a run, he's determined, tracks back well and needs the confidence through consistent game time to show what he can do. If it don't work out, Amad should be back in a few weeks/months. I'd also try Mount on the right but he will be far from fitness right now. I like pellistri balance, I think he can do more and he can offer more service than Rashford or Antony ever do and we actually have a proper number 9 to be in the right place. I hope he starts the next game, I'm really intrigued what a few games could do, Burnely is a perfect game for him to get two starts in a row.

 

[Mainoldo]

Everytime he gets an opportunity he fluffs his lines. It happened again against Bayern and I wasn’t surprised.

If he plays against Burnley it will happen again.

He cannot keep getting these chances and fail to either put the ball in the back of the net or fail to create down his side.

 

[manhood]

People were crying that Anthony always plays and Pellistri not.

Now they are complaining that Pellistri is playing, what the actual hell, give the guy 5-10 games and then start whining about it.

 

[RedAlert27]

Everytime he gets an opportunity he fluffs his lines. It happened again against Bayern and I wasn’t surprised.

If he plays against Burnley it will happen again.

He cannot keep getting these chances and fail to either put the ball in the back of the net or fail to create down his side.

Really surprised by this analysis. He hardly fluffed his lines, was probably one of our better performers along side Reguilon. Plus it's his first start, expecting him to come straight in and work wonders instantly into this team is a crazy thought. He's hardly had a fair chance like Sancho and Antony.

 

[Smores]

Everytime he gets an opportunity he fluffs his lines. It happened again against Bayern and I wasn’t surprised.

If he plays against Burnley it will happen again.

He cannot keep getting these chances and fail to either put the ball in the back of the net or fail to create down his side.

He's hardly had any chances so using Bayern to suggest he's fluffing it is nonsense. He has a chance now to get game time and prove he has what it takes, if he doesn't then he doesn't but its bizzare to try claim a premature analysis.

We all know Amad is the more likely contender for that spot in the long run. If Pellestri turns out only good enough as a squad player that's fine. We'll use him for a bit then sell him on.

 

[Mainoldo]

Really surprised by this analysis. He hardly fluffed his lines, was probably one of our better performers along side Reguilon. Plus it's his first start, expecting him to come straight in and work wonders instantly into this team is a crazy thought. He's hardly had a fair chance like Sancho and Antony.

But this is the highest level guys. I’m not saying he did anything wrong. But he is an attacking winger. You have to leave an impression in those positions.

Imagine being a promising CF for United and not scoring a goal in the 10 opportunities given to you but you run a lot. It just doesn’t happen at this level. You’re out.

There has been more than a few occasions now where he should have hit the back of the net. It’s going to cost you.

 

[Mainoldo]

He's hardly had any chances so using Bayern to suggest he's fluffing it is nonsense. He has a chance now to get game time and prove he has what it takes, if he doesn't then he doesn't but its bizzare to try claim a premature analysis.

We all know Amad is the more likely contender for that spot in the long run. If Pellestri turns out only good enough as a squad player that's fine. We'll use him for a bit then sell him on.

It’s no premature I’ve clearly stated this was more than one game and my opinion is based on me seeing him before in that same exact position not getting a clear connection on his shot. Same situation again against Bayern and he shows lack of physicality and conviction. It’s not good enough for us. But he is our 4th choice.

 

[RedAlert27]

But this is the highest level guys. I’m not saying he did anything wrong. But he is an attacking winger. You have to leave an impression in those positions.

Imagine being a promising CF for United and not scoring a goal in the 10 opportunities given to you but you run a lot. It just doesn’t happen at this level. You’re out.

There has been more than a few occasions now where he should have hit the back of the net. It’s going to cost you.

I don't think he's had a fair run in the team to be judged as of yet. He's played 23 minutes in the PL over 5 games this season, and only 60 minutes last Season, with no starts! His overall performance was decent against Bayern and surely deserves a decent run so we can judge him over a decent amount of time.

 

[Pirlo'sBeard]

I don't think he's anywhere near good enough unfortunately. Not just basing it off his performance against Bayern.

 

[luke511]

Everytime he gets an opportunity he fluffs his lines. It happened again against Bayern and I wasn’t surprised.

If he plays against Burnley it will happen again.

He cannot keep getting these chances and fail to either put the ball in the back of the net or fail to create down his side.

What chances? He played a total of 280 minutes last season for us broken up in late sub appearances, and 23 minutes of game time this season prior to a start vs Bayern up against Alphonso Davies. He did well given the context. Nobody is saying he's a world beater, people just want to see what he's made of after a fair run in the side. Hopefully that period is now and he can put in a worthy performance vs Burnley, a more natural level to judge him.

 

[Mainoldo]

What chances? He played a total of 280 minutes last season for us broken up in late sub appearances, and 23 minutes of game time this season prior to a start vs Bayern up against Alphonso Davies. He did well given the context. Nobody is saying he's a world beater, people just want to see what he's made of after a fair run in the side. Hopefully that period is now and he can put in a worthy performance vs Burnley, a more natural level to judge him.

Okay well I hope that he starts. But bear in mind if he does he will get an opportunity to score or assets and he won’t execute.

 

[Marwood]

I don't think he's had a fair run in the team to be judged as of yet. He's played 23 minutes in the PL over 5 games this season, and only 60 minutes last Season, with no starts! His overall performance was decent against Bayern and surely deserves a decent run so we can judge him over a decent amount of time.

I'm not sure he "deserves" a run in the team.

He's really not played enough football for a 21yr old and as a result nobody knows what he's about.

 

[RedAlert27]

I'm not sure he "deserves" a run in the team.

He's really not played enough football for a 21yr old and as a result nobody knows what he's about.

Exactly "nobody knows what he's about". So let's see what he has to offer. I'm not saying he can go onto be a regular starting 11 player, but why not give him a chance? He's obviously got something about him to be on the fringes. It's now or never for the lad either way.

 

[Marwood]

Exactly "nobody knows what he's about". So let's see what he has to offer. I'm not saying he can go onto be a regular starting 11 player, but why not give him a chance? He's obviously got something about him to be on the fringes. It's now or never for the lad either way.

I just think there's got to be a more valid reason to get a run at Manchester United. Not knowing if a player is good or bad doesn't seem enough.

 

[Ubik]

I just think there's got to be a more valid reason to get a run at Manchester United. Not knowing if a player is good or bad doesn't seem enough.

I'd agree that the manager shouldn't be playing him unless he sees some worthwhile qualities that could be useful, but I think from a fan's perspective it's hard to come to any firm conclusion about him, away to Bayern in this team isn't ideal. His lack of end product as a senior player is a pretty stark red flag, though.

 

[NicolaSacco]

Garnacho and Diallo are the two young wingers who have all the attributes to make it at Utd, Pellistri isn’t. It will take Utd another year or two to come to this conclusion, but I’d bet good money that this is the conclusion they come to.

 

[lex talionis]

The slaying of Pellistri here after one start is madness. Maybe in time he will prove that he’s shit, but at least give him a proper chance of 180 minutes.

 

[The_Midfielder]

Garnacho and Diallo are the two young wingers who have all the attributes to make it at Utd, Pellistri isn’t. It will take Utd another year or two to come to this conclusion, but I’d bet good money that this is the conclusion they come to.

He is the perfect squad player ..
Fights for his place .. has the hunger ..
Is young .. and willing to do the dirty work .. wants to play every game so is willing to push the other players ..

 

[NotoriousISSY]

He deserves a run of games. Not so much because he's shown competence or great ability, but moreso because others haven't.

For all of Antony's hard running, he has one trick which may come off once every 7 games. For all of Sancho's disturbingly high wages, he averaged one good appearance in every 5.

Pellestri surely can't be less productive than that right?

 

[Marwood]

I'd agree that the manager shouldn't be playing him unless he sees some worthwhile qualities that could be useful, but I think from a fan's perspective it's hard to come to any firm conclusion about him, away to Bayern in this team isn't ideal. His lack of end product as a senior player is a pretty stark red flag, though.

Yeah I'm trying to withhold judgement but just physically, before we get to talent, he doesn't look of the level needed. Still looks like a 16 year old to me.

But its another lesson in how not to manage (club and the players management) a young players career. 21 and nobody knows anything about him.

 

[NicolaSacco]

He is the perfect squad player ..
Fights for his place .. has the hunger ..
Is young .. and willing to do the dirty work .. wants to play every game so is willing to push the other players ..

I don’t disagree with any of that, and it’s why I think he’ll be around for another year or two.

 

[saik]

I just think there's got to be a more valid reason to get a run at Manchester United. Not knowing if a player is good or bad doesn't seem enough.

Chill out, man. He effectively 4th/5th choice. It's not like he's keeping out better players out of the lineup.