He did several things to disturb their low block. They are in the video. The one you just watched. Above.
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 20
- Goals
- 1
- Assists
- 1
- Yellow cards
- 2
His performance is subjective, you know?It would be fair to criticise him if he had a poor game. He didn't. Yet, you are here criticising him
Just admit that you're hopeful he plays a shit game every time, and unless he scores a hattrick and gets a few assists, he had a "nothing performance". Or in your words, "he didn't have a very poor game, but not a good one, because he didn't really do anything".
But if you opened your eyes, you'd see he did a fair bit.
He wasn’t bad. But in my opinion, he wasn’t really impactful, also.
I am afforded the luxury to opine. This is a message board, after all. People tend to not always agree. You just tend to get mad when people do not agree with you, and throw your toys out of the pram.
Also, why on earth would I be hopeful he has a poor game? I’m not some kind of martyr. I want the team I support to, actually…. win? I think that’s an incredibly childish and immature accusation to sling at someone.
Agree. This where my derision towards the signing of Mount mostly stems.
Our priority signing isn’t really addressing the lack of quality across the first XI. Potentially a minor upgrade; of which he is yet to show. Of which he has yet to show over the past 18 months. Probably an arguable side-grade, currently.
Let me guess you two are the kinda fans who stuck up for the likes of Pogba every week when he had bad games.
He's not a #8 and definitely not a #6. I don't know what ETH is thinking or why we spent money on a position that wasn't needed. He's a good player but the only position I can see him playing is either on the right wing or in the #10 if Bruno isn't playing.
Park Ji Sung 2006-2009 or Mount?
Hes got that Iniesta vibe
I didn’t actually.
I do not like him as a player. I think his performance is too erratic. Sometimes he is quite good, but often he is completely anonymous. In the match against Palace, he was completely anonymous in the first half and one of our 3 worst (after Amrabat and Pellistri). In the second half, he was good for the last 10 minutes before being substituted.
I think he is an inferior signing, and I don't quite understand why the choice fell on him. It has been a long time since he played well for a long period.
I think he is an inferior signing, and I don't quite understand why the choice fell on him. It has been a long time since he played well for a long period.
Iniesta in Japan vibe
And that's being extremely kind. He's a minor upgrade over Donny. At least he can perform against Palace's 2nd string.
Tune in every week folks! You can see him playing no8 every game.
I watched the game again and still thought he did okay. A few things he tried didn’t come off but I thought he looked more than comfortable in deeper areas. Carried the ball forward from there at pace sometimes as well.
I think he will adapt fine. Don’t forget he’s not even 100% match fit yet.
Yeah, he was among the best outfield players, along with Dalot. For those saying, "he didnt do much with the ball", atleast he took the ball in pressure situations and didnt constantly give it away egregiously. Also his off the ball work is good. I feel more comfortable with him or Mejbri as our #10 rather than Bruno, who I would like to see further forward or wide.
Plays best in a 4-3-3 as one of the #8s, like he did with Mejbri, than as a designated sitting #8, with a #10 like Bruno ahead of him.
-------------Casemiro
--------Mejbri----Mount
Bruno--Hojlund--Rashford
-------------Casemiro
--------Mejbri----Mount
Bruno--Hojlund--Rashford
You should be also when our club resorts to deadline day loan because they blew our budget on a stupid transfer fee for a player not even needed in June, a player that could have been signed for free in a year time.
Take a look at that bolded part again, and see how pathetic that makes you look. The way you put quotations mark around, as if it's some meaningless stats that doesn't matter
I guess no stats matter when it comes to Mount, because you simply don't like him, and you want to be right regarding the transfer. Why? Do you think it makes you look like some football expert? Let me tell you, when you don't know what shot creating action is, you're not.I can imagine you said the same about Modric when he first starting to get going at Real Madrid - "but he doesn't score or assist, everyone has to do it for him" without understanding what he does off-the-ball and on-the-ball. Of course Mount isn't comparable to Modric, but it's the way you try to degrade players by talking about them "just" recycling possession and building up attacks.
Now, google that nonsense stat and see that it is right, and tell me he didn't contribute offensively again.
Out of curiousity - who would you go for - realistic transfer and someone that would improve us - as our midfielder? I don't necessarily disagree with you that Mount wasn't the midfielder we needed, but he's here now and he is a very good player, so it is kind of pointless to discuss why we bought him in the first place.
That's what we should be playing imo. I would go further though and swap out Rashford until he learns to pull his finger out.
That's what I ask myself. When we were linked to/signed Mkhitaryan, Lukaku, Darmian, Rojo, Lindelöf etc, were you in their transfer thread/player performance thread constantly telling everyone how shit they were? It seems like your expectations for Mount are way higher than any one else in this team, and I just find it strange. It's not just an opinion, it's just weird behaviour, which is why I may sound provoked. You seem to think that a period of 18 months with injuries and playing in a bad team defines his football qualities and abilities, but they don't. What about Rashford when he scored 4 PL goals in 21/22 season, then 17 league goals the following season?
What is incredibly childish is acting like you're doing to one of our new signings on this forum. It is clear you don't like him, not just as a player, but it has gotten personal for some reason. He needs to have insane performances for you to even give him slight credit, and even then you'll likely not do that.
You may be happy with just stats, especially those which seem to backup your claim. I'm not one to chase silly stats that make no difference to the outcome of this match to prove a point in an internet forum. I watched the match live and my opinion is based on that. I'm not trying to prove anything regarding the transfer, it has happened, there is no point me railing against Mount's transfer anymore. I'm posting purely on his performance for us, you are one still bringing up Mount's performance for Chelsea all over this forum to still prove you are right about Mount.Take a look at that bolded part again, and see how pathetic that makes you look. The way you put quotations mark around, as if it's some meaningless stats that doesn't matter
I can imagine you said the same about Modric when he first starting to get going at Real Madrid - "but he doesn't score or assist, everyone has to do it for him" without understanding what he does off-the-ball and on-the-ball. Of course Mount isn't comparable to Modric, but it's the way you try to degrade players by talking about them "just" recycling possession and building up attacks.
Now, google that nonsense stat and see that it is right, and tell me he didn't contribute offensively again.
Another laughable comparison to Modric which you yourself know is bullshit but still make it to prove a strawman argument.
You are the only one in this forum with an insanely low bar for a player's performance. No one is expecting Mount to score and assist all the time but let's not laud a player's average performance in a pathetic home loss to relegation contenders.
Are you incapable of reading properly? I said I didn't compare him to Modric. I made a comment on how you are unable to understand player's qualities when they don't score or assist much.
I didn't say he had a great performance. But you're saying he had a terrible game, which he didn't at all. It's quite unbelievable that is your take when 100 other posters in this thread thought he had a decent game. So how am I the only one with "insanely low bar for a player's performance?" You rate Bruno as if he is our star player ffs, now that is an insanely low bar.
He had an average performance, nothing to cry home about. Yet you seem to get triggered if anyone states the bleeding obvious here.
Like it or not Bruno and Rashford are our star players. Even the silly stats you seem to constantly pull out shows that. I personally don’t like either of them that much but that’s the state of the club right now.
Entirely different set of circumstances. (For a multitude of reasons). Primarily, though, I knew very little about those players outside of Lukaku. How can I make opinion of players I do not know much of? Additionally, Lukaku, for what it’s worth, came to us on the back of a very good season. There was justifiable reason to be optimistic about that transfer.
Look, your posts are getting increasingly desperate, childish, immature, and aggressive. Continue on with your angry-man-crusade when people don’t agree with you - but don’t drag me into it. I frankly can’t be arsed with you anymore.
You are taking this too personal. You’ve assumed a strawman argument that I only recognise goal or assist and railing against it.
We all know how different midfielders contribute on the pitch.
You seem to have a problem with stats. It's just data. Information. Facts.
They shouldn't be used as a deciding factor, but both the eye tests and the stats show us that they're clearly not star players.
We'll just agree to disagree. You've been after Mount since his first 90 minutes here. Give players a bit time to settle before you're all over them. He is a player that played a key role in Chelsea winning CL by scoring against Porto in the quarter-finals, scoring against Real Madrid in the semi-finals and then assisting the only goal in the CL final against City. He'll come good.
2/3 of all your posts are about Mount being shit. Give me a break
Bit ironic that you call my posts desperate, childish and immature, no?
Sandro Tonali would have been a good fit imo, absolute class player and much more suited to the deeper role, could have been a good partner and replacement of Casemiro also. And that second sentence what does that mean? It's pointless to discuss anything now by the thinking, it's all set and done, nobody is at fault we just go and splash 80m on Sterling in january?
In the quick link up play Mount is much better than Bruno at the moment. I honestly think the solution is to push Bruno out to the right where we can make full use of his excellent long balls / crosses, and keep Mount as the 10 to link the play together.
Tonali hasn't exactly shown anything to suggest he could be a great midfielder. Struggling to get into Newcastle's midfield over Sean Longstaff, but somehow he would be a good fit for us? Not really buying that. Also, I don't think it would be a wise idea to buy a player who cried as he was forced out of AC Milan. He did not want to leave Italy at all, and buying players that don't want to play for you is far from ideal.
It means that it is pointless to discuss, because he has barely played for us, and there is nothing you can do about the fact that he is here. He was wanted by the manager who has the owners' support. Mount may turn out to be a great success here, or he may not. Either way, he is a very good player with clear qualities who is extremely versatile and hard-working, which are valuable assets to have. With the way some posters on here are going on about Mount, I'm surprised they're still not discussing why we bought Matteo Darmian.
Well he ain't struggling, they just played City, Liverpool and Brighton on the bounce, lost to all of them and Howe made some changes, as you know some good coaches do. I've seen him play and he was fine, better than whatever Mount is trying to play. And by the way of your thinking, you would be pretty okey if ETH chooses to spend 50m on Longstaff in January, since you know, it's not our money right? And yeah good players cry when they do leave big clubs, I am sure there was even a video of Casemiro crying when he left Madrid to join us....
It's an internet forum, and you are hell bent on it, do you really need to go around and discuss why we are discussing anything at all?
Tonali has not been particularly better than Mount except one game. He averages like 23 passes per game with a 70% completion rate as a midfielder in a decent Newcastle side, but yeah he's doing better
Casemiro wanted to leave as he wanted a new challenge, but cried because of the memories and everything he has achieved with them.
Tonali didn't want to leave and practically begged to stay in Milan, and cried because he was forced out. Can you see the difference?
Christ on a bike. Watch some fecking football not rating and stats. What has Mount done so far in comparison? They have played the 2 best teams, plus Brighton and Villa, he has done well, and yeah he would have been a better fit for us that Mount, for the simple fact that Mount is no CM at all. And Tonali was the first CM that came to my mind after 10 seconds, there are 10 other midfielders that could have been bought and for even less.Tonali has not been particularly better than Mount except one game. He averages like 23 passes per game with a 70% completion rate as a midfielder in a decent Newcastle side, but yeah he's doing better
Casemiro wanted to leave as he wanted a new challenge, but cried because of the memories and everything he has achieved with them.
Tonali didn't want to leave and practically begged to stay in Milan, and cried because he was forced out. Can you see the difference?
And you know feck all why Casemiro or Tonali cried and why the hell does it matter? There was a talk that Mount didn't want to leave Chelsea his boyhood team and left after not getting the deal he wanted, but here you are talking about other players and their desires to move. Tonali reportedly earns 120k a week while Mount gets 250k a week.
I’m not sure you understand the definition of irony.2/3 of all your posts are about Mount being shit. Give me a break
Bit ironic that you call my posts desperate, childish and immature, no?
It wouldn’t bother me if you simply argued the fact that you rate Mount. It’s the fact you’ve become increasingly more aggressive and touching on delusion that I cannot be bothered with. You’re at the point now where you put words in other people’s mouths and misconstrue their points to fit your own agenda, or to support your flawed arguments.
What’s next? Name calling?
Collectively the midfield balance is not right...so it's hard to blame individual players.
But generally I feel Mount has played decent since coming back into the team.
Playing the same team back-to-back is never easy either so that muddies the performance analysis a little.
But generally I feel Mount has played decent since coming back into the team.
Playing the same team back-to-back is never easy either so that muddies the performance analysis a little.
If you really watched Newcastle like you claim, you'd know there is a reason he struggles to get into the midfield now. Claiming Tonali is a better footballer when he struggles to get in ahead of Sean LongstaffChrist on a bike. Watch some fecking football not rating and stats. What has Mount done so far in comparison? They have played the 2 best teams, plus Brighton and Villa, he has done well, and yeah he would have been a better fit for us that Mount, for the simple fact that Mount is no CM at all. And Tonali was the first CM that came to my mind after 10 seconds, there are 10 other midfielders that could have been bought and for even less.
And you know feck all why Casemiro or Tonali cried and why the hell does it matter? There was a talk that Mount didn't want to leave Chelsea his boyhood team and left after not getting the deal he wanted, but here you are talking about other players and their desires to move. Tonali reportedly earns 120k a week while Mount gets 250k a week.
By the way, did you have a competition with yourself how many swear words you could make in one post? Relax.
We can just end the debate here. There is no point as you're not interested in how he performs. You already said he is a nothing shit player, so having a debate with you on his performances is pointless. Enjoy your day.
Tonali is doing that thing that most Italian players in England have done, but he's looking to do it in record time.If you really watched Newcastle like you claim, you'd know there is a reason he struggles to get into the midfield now. Claiming Tonali is a better footballer when he struggles to get in ahead of Sean Longstaff
By the way, did you have a competition with yourself how many swear words you could make in one post? Relax.
Start off well, decides he misses Italy too much, has a bit of a whinge, gets dropped. He'll hopefully be back at home on loan in January.
We sign a player we don't need and play our best No. 10 Bruno at RW. Welcome to Man Utd.