Anything at all to shake things up is good news to me. Keep it coming.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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You know they're a legit source how?
I know you claim you're not connected to Muppetiers but it's really difficult to think otherwise at this point.
I mean, come on - Muppetiers. They're called Muppetiers.
Mate I’m from England, I have absolutely no affiliation to the Muppetiers
Who is the current available best in class? Edwards?
They're not the only ones who have hinted at it. It was discussed on the Athletic podcast that the Qatari's got on better with Arnold and co than INEOS did. It doesn't mean Arnold would've been safe long term but I think if Qatar had won the bidding war he wouldn't be stepping down days before the takeover is announced.
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Fair enough, mate. At least we finally have movement in regards to ownership etc - so we should all be happierMate I’m from England, I have absolutely no affiliation to the Muppetiers
There is no set time on how and when you can build up contacts. I imagine in this day and age it takes significantly less time or effort than it used to.
Roades mentioned voting against the INEOS deal weeks ago on the podcast. I guess it must be a coincidence that Whitwell is now reporting it. I haven’t seen or heard that anywhere else.
Best in class isn't a thing. Txiki wasn't "best in class" when he got the job at Barcelona, nor was Edwards or nearly all other examples. Clubs get good DOFs either because it's an internal promotion of someone that fitted well with the club or it's pure luck because clubs seldomly manage to consecutively appoint competent outsiders even when they have a great resume.
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Fergie and Gill ran the club. The best thing the glazers did when they took over was have little to no input in any capacity in the football end of things.
As soon as Ferguson left that all changed. It’s well documented from ex managers aswell as respected journalists.
2013 to now is a Glazers run man United.
In that way I’m a bit worried that whoever comes in may succumb to the pressure of such a high profile role. Mitchell for all his success has never been in such a position. Hopefully it all works out though obviously.
I hope whatever other changes about to happen to be made as quick as possible. A lot of people around the club must be shitting themselves at the moment, even ETH must be worried about his job.
They will give him a chance I’m sure of that however his days of demanding players like Antony for £82m are over, you can buy players that suit the physicality and intensity of the EPL is what I meant by suiting the club, not appeasing the coach by looking to recruit only players who played in Eredevise.
Analysing the current state of the Dutch league means that the club will not be specifically recruiting from that league unless a true superstar emerges.
How so? Surprised we're not singing his name in the stands if this were true.
I thought the word is that none of that initial investment will be for transfers and 100% for improving infrastructure?
He did post on here, I remember his username but can't remember much of what was said. Think there were a few of these ITK's at the time....GoldTrafford was another iirc?
Regarding the bolded part. Is that actually what he said? Laughable if so. Sounds like he realised something that was originally a bit of fun could actually make money, so he decided to try to rescue it and try to put a bit more thought into it. The early rumours were laughably wrong. Practically just saying what the fans wanted to hear. I do half wonder if he gets most of his info from RedCafe.
They were 'running' it enough to demand that Ronaldo money largely went to servicing the debt they'd personally incurred rather than substantially reinvesting the club's own money and instead covering the outstanding debt (again, borrowing for their ownership rather than that the club had incurred investing in facilities or buying players) themselves across the siblings, as well as limiting our ability to rebuild the midfield under final days of SAF. It was only when they didn't have a virtual miracle worker that they started to allow more of the club's own revenue to go onto (by then, less well judged) player purchases...
Dan Ashworth has a good reputation at Newcastle.
No idea who the best available option is; nobody does really.
Yes men being replaced by new yes men, as long as Joel Glazer holds sway nothing changes fundamentally, I mean the owner of Manchester United cannot even bring himself to post a tribute to arguably its greatest ever player in the last few days, their indifference and disrespect to the club is absolutely staggering.
If INEOS bring in Jean-Claude Blanc, it will be a huge upgrade on Arnold.
Very impressive resume.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Claude_Blanc
Very impressive resume.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Claude_Blanc
I see what you mean.
Yeah, it'll be like Txiki and Doku. The Sporting Director will make a judgement on who suits the coach, on the understanding that the coach suits the idea of how Manchester United wants to play.
If he wanted Qatar, then never mind. See ya Arnold
Infrastructure investment can include paying money into the club, investing which is what the Glazers have never done allows INEOS to circumnavigate a lot of the FFP/FSP issues of the club without actually injecting a further £100-200m of cash to buy players. Most players are purchased over terms anyway.
FSP states you can spend 90% of your revenue so last years revenues £648m on wages, net transfers from January 1st to December 31st in a fiscal year.
The Club didn’t really spend anything this January and probably have a bit to spend due to selling £45m of homegrown players in the summer, however their spend in January will also be based on next years reduced rate of 80%, so players sales are essential and reducing the wage bill also critical.
The new FSP is going to make clubs change their high wage to turnover policy and quickly
https://www.uefa.com/insideuefa/new...a-s-new-financial-sustainability-regulations/
Let’s be clear here Antony is the worst recruit ever by the club and this must never happen again!
Good bye Pub man. Marge Simpsons will miss you.
He cared for himself, his job.
was reported that Jassim will keep the status quo and give people a chance to prove themselves whereas Ratcliffe was giving a damning review of the way the club was run, was that Keveh guy on SSN ages ago.
It's on Twitter so it's defo true.
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Is there a single DOF that has managed to replicate what they did at their former club, at their new club?
People keep talking about hiring the best people but DOF’s seem to be unable to replicate what they have previously achieved.
That’s my worry too.
Doubt Ashworth would be available, given whose payroll he's currently on.
No he's not. Sancho is.
If you think Antony is the worst recruit ever by the club then you haven't been watching United for very long
Weird how Antony gets this kind of talk but Sancho who was signed for £9m less but is on way higher wages, has barely busted a gut in his entire Utd career, fallen out with the manager and chucked 6 months of his career in the bin is not seen in that way.
Likely because it is not down to one individual but a team that functions like a well oiled machine where every piece compliments the other. And you obviously have to have owners who have some sort of a sporting ambition.
I doubt it is that difficult though to get in top people. If they are given clear roles, vested with real authority, and a playing style and ethos is defined towards which they will work, it will revolutionise how this horribly run club functions.
It's likely hard to say who is the best DoF, head of recruitment, etc. etc., because it is a structure of different roles.
I agree. But it is still better to hire a guy who worked already on that position than promote someone "who did great things with women team".
Agreed, I’d rather seem someone with pedigree in the role and see them given autonomy but there’s this expectation that that’s all we need and we’re set to win the league again.
Probably because Antony has an unlikeable personality, Weghorst was a "recruit" and was way worse than Antony, but he was a likeable bloke. I also think the fact that he's Brazilian has something to do with it, an assumption that a winger from Brazil should be someone in the style of one of Brazil's greats
Are you sure about that?
I’d say Sancho beats him marginally. There’s still a chance Antony returns on some of his value, whereas Sancho has already completely given up after 2 seasons.
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