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She's a bit thick and extremely combative.
I'm in the Boris camp.
I am hoping Boris will be the new PM.
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She's a bit thick and extremely combative.
I'm in the Boris camp.
I am hoping Boris will be the new PM.
Jeez. reading the entirety of the posts is even more ridiculous
Well yeah, as one of the few non lefties on here i was hardly going to like her was i.The people surprised by 11101’s position:
How dare you. Boris got us all talking about politics again. I haven't figured out how to feed my kids with it but I'll keep trying.
Very uncharitable of you. He expolits people of all colours and creeds without discrimination, don't you know.Is this the political/rich people version of 'he has black friends so he can't be racist!'
Does business in Jamaica and Bangladesh FFS
Why didn't you get born into a landowning wealthy family? It is borderline irresponsible not to be.How dare you. Boris got us all talking about politics again. I haven't figured out how to feed my kids with it but I'll keep trying.
I know. I'm sorry, MasterWhy didn't you get born into a landowning wealthy family? It is borderline irresponsible not to be.
Are you real? I always thought you were a Twitter bot.
She had the whip removed last year. So you're completely wrong there again, aren't you?... She'd probably be good at her job if she was 'just' an MP campaigning for local issues but shes not, shes high up in shadow government campaigning on national issues. And there shes terrible. One of the worst there has been in living memory and a big part of the reason the last Labour shadow government failed so spectacularly.
But here in reality, Laura Trott, (the actual) Chief Secretary to the Treasury, falters over 'basic' debt question.She had the whip removed last year. So you're completely wrong there again, aren't you?
Full on culture war nonsense. This election is going to be filthy. Its going to drag us even more into the gutter.Tweet
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The state of this country, honestly.
I’d like to say I’m not sure that’s possible, but it’s a “hold my beer” moment for the Tories.Full on culture war nonsense. This election is going to be filthy. Its going to drag us even more into the gutter.
Absolutely. It's been their clear attack line for some time now. It's their strategy.Full on culture war nonsense. This election is going to be filthy. Its going to drag us even more into the gutter.
Shes disliked by lots of right wingers because she's a successful black woman. Everything else is just bs.There is a daily parade of backbench politicians fecking up but its a different one each time and they do a bit of damage limitation before shuffling away never to be seen again. She (was) frontbench, screws up on a regular basis, and reacts quite nastily when called out on it. Racism is an easy excuse here. Shes disliked because shes a horrible politician. Same as George Galloway, Nigel Farage or any of the other stains on politics.
Shes not thick. Shes old. She’s also bloody nice and was a firebrand in her youth. She’s an incredible campaigner, has resisted Hackney turning into another white-flight gentrified paradise and creates one of the most positive constituencies in the Uk.She's a bit thick and extremely combative. A hit in any walk of life and especially politics.
There’s a line, and this didn’t so much cross it, as shit on it.Same as George Galloway, Nigel Farage or any of the other stains on politics.
Precisely the type of argument that led to her party's worst election performance in 80 years.Shes disliked by lots of right wingers because she's a successful black woman. Everything else is just bs.
Yeah you're right.Precisely the type of argument that led to her party's worst election performance in 80 years.
The right wing of politics, and the Murdoch press in particular, prefer it that if we have to have these annoying ethnic types involved at all that they at least rich Uncle Tom types like Sunak.The trouble is, when Abbott has an off day or skews something up in an interview (like anyone really), it becomes front and centre in the headlines, and she's disproportionately labelled a laughing stock and becomes a proverbial punching bag for the right to ridicule. The same level of ridicule and scrutiny isn't aimed at her white or male peers, and certainly not those in the conservative party.
On the balance of things she's had a pretty distinguished career, and a bit of a trailblazer herself considering she was the first black female MP and has been one for almost 40 years, a popular one at that.
She's by no means a perfect representation of a parliamentarian, bit she's hardly the clown act she's depicted to be, certainly no more so than much of her peers. I do feel that its racism that's made her such an 'acceptable' target for ridicule and abuse.
Correct. Always hated the way she was treated, fundamentally racist at its core.The focus gets put on her when she does it because she's a black woman with left-wing views, any mistake she says/does gets highlighted tenfold, whereas a Boris, Farage etc can do (and have done) worse with less pushback and even have positive public opinion.
Literally every tory politician of rank since 2016.Have you watched her interviews where she umms and ahhs for a while then freezes and goes blank? It's like watching a computer crash.
did they just ban the Conservative party?I don't suppose this new definition extends to racist Tory party donors who call for MP's to be shot?
New extremism definition unveiled by government
'It will apply to, but not criminalise, groups that promote an ideology based on "violence, hatred or intolerance".'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68556914
A whining Liverpool fan? I'd be happy if they took youFirst my government (all parties) came for the black people. And I said nothing.
Then my government (all parties) came for the Palestinians, bombed and starved them. And I said nothing.
Now they're coming for me.
You have to wonder, why bother with a democratic process if the general public just don't give a shit about this kind of thing.In other news, looks like the Tories are abusing the FOI process.
https://democracyforsale.substack.com/
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No, whilst I agreed the comments made against Diane Abbot were horrible, but remember Hoyle got lambasted when he allowed the Labour motion on Gaza the other week, with everyone claiming he was 'out of order'.Did you not think today was an exceptional circumstance given she was both subject and victim?
I understand. You'll vehemently stand behind the speaker breaking convention when it suits your cause, but that is the only circumstance.No, whilst I agreed the comments made against Diane Abbot were horrible, but remember Hoyle got lambasted when he allowed the Labour motion on Gaza the other week, with everyone claiming he was 'out of order'.
Ms Abbot is under suspension in her own party so Hoyle acted properly in not calling a MP who was not listed...it really is that simple.
If our parliamentary process sees a 70+ year old member of the house that's been subjected to racist and mysoginist abuse, not being given time to address it, while at least ten male members have… it’s his job to change that. He’s wet. Akin to the final quarter of a pint on a hot summers day.No, whilst I agreed the comments made against Diane Abbot were horrible, but remember Hoyle got lambasted when he allowed the Labour motion on Gaza the other week, with everyone claiming he was 'out of order'.
Ms Abbot is under suspension in her own party so Hoyle acted properly in not calling a MP who was not listed...it really is that simple.
A whining Liverpool fan? I'd be happy if they took you
No, he already got in hot water over the Gaza thing, so he wisely chose discretion as the better part of valor. Or two wrongs don't make a right.... or do they?I understand. You'll vehemently stand behind the speaker breaking convention when it suits your cause, but that is the only circumstance.
Incidentally, it wouldn't really have been breaking convention to allow "Ms Abbot" to speak.
It feels less like you've been drinking the Kool-Aid than you have been injecting it directly into your eyeballs*.
the fing about boris is that he’s just like one of us.Tories would probably win the election if they brought Boris back and he said "wiff waff balderdash nan's gash"
Which one is it?the fing about boris is that he’s just like one of us.