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I heard he hasn't scored in something like 17 cl games? That stat seems too much, all I know is that his next goal in the competition will be a crucial one
This.Wouldn't say it was Bad Berba, just an unlucky Berba.
Last goal was October 2008 against Celtic.I heard he hasn't scored in something like 17 cl games? That stat seems too much, all I know is that his next goal in the competition will be a crucial one
In a lot of ways you can put this slightly mishit finish or that slightly off touch, but the amount of times this and that happened (and regularly happens) is unbelievable.Wouldn't say it was Bad Berba, just an unlucky Berba.
You're right. Should have done better.I wouldn't say he was that unlucky, he should have done better
Still, not a bad game, got himself in the positions which for me is the key with him
I hope we have a nice consistent spell from him now, and let's hope he can stay top of the scorers chart in the league
An enigmaIn a lot of ways you can put this slightly mishit finish or that slightly off touch, but the amount of times this and that happened (and regularly happens) is unbelievable.
Aside from confidence and luck I don't really know what you can put it down to, though. You see Berbatov pluck that Carrick ball out of the air like it was nothing and then 2 minutes later he just completely messes up his easier touch from the Rooney outside-of-the-foot pass...he's an odd one is Berbatov.
He really is an odd one in that sense. Sometimes it just clicks and he makes football look piss easy, and the next its as if the world is conspiring against him. His challenge is to produce those days when things click (albeit not 5 goals) on a more consistent basis.In a lot of ways you can put this slightly mishit finish or that slightly off touch, but the amount of times this and that happened (and regularly happens) is unbelievable.
Aside from confidence and luck I don't really know what you can put it down to, though. You see Berbatov pluck that Carrick ball out of the air like it was nothing and then 2 minutes later he just completely messes up his easier touch from the Rooney outside-of-the-foot pass...he's an odd one is Berbatov.
One person is responsible for that. Wayne Rooney. Rooney's really helped Berbatov and eased some pressure.An enigma
I enjoyed watching him tonight, granted a goal or two would have made it much better but it was a far cry from the games you often see where he hardly gets involved and has you screaming at him to get stuck in.
He's playing with a smile on his face too which is good to see, the goals will keep coming i'm sure.
Agree with both of you.I agree with Brwned. It's something I said after the Blackburn game - I've never seen a United player who booms and busts within such truncated periods of time. Strange.
I was just gonna mention this. Even though he didn't take his chances tonight, he still didn't really sulk and go into himself the way he can when he doesn't score. He put good effort in tonight, just didn't come off for him.An enigma
I enjoyed watching him tonight, granted a goal or two would have made it much better but it was a far cry from the games you often see where he hardly gets involved and has you screaming at him to get stuck in.
He's playing with a smile on his face too which is good to see, the goals will keep coming i'm sure.
Yup. Relies too mich on things going his way at times. Not in terms of effort but things not clicking does seem to have a snow ball effect with him. Seems to be very hard on himzelf.I think he's a bit soft and introverted. I thought we were getting a more cocky player. He's clearly got the talent but I don't think he really believes in his abilities.
But even his demeanour changes like the wind. In games sometimes, he'll be floating along, and then it's as though something has pissed him off, and he'll go all demonic for a moment. And then normal again.I think he's a bit soft and introverted. I thought we were getting a more cocky player. He's clearly got the talent but I don't think he really believes in his abilities.
That's human nature, I guess. To be fair, United is a huge step up from any club, so success is not just determined by talent. He's a good player, though... and he'll continue to link up well with Rooney(who I think will shoot us the title this season).Yup. Relies too mich on things going his way at times. Not in terms of effort but things not clicking does seem to have a snow ball effect with him. Seems to be very hard on himzelf.
He was giving out to one of the twins big time on 15 minutes but he'd just fluffed a good chance himself.I saw him sulking a fair bit to be honest, although it might of been with himself
A little off topic but I would like to point this out. Why do you find yourself obliged to first say how awesome Giggs is then say what you want ? I have seen this so many times on here for the "legends". It is really strange that someone has to go through this in order to avoid being attacked by others...But even his demeanour changes like the wind. In games sometimes, he'll be floating along, and then it's as though something has pissed him off, and he'll go all demonic for a moment. And then normal again.
He really is a strange one - but I think that we're seeing far more good than bad overall, so he's worth his place.
I don't even think it's a confidence thing with the fella. How could it be? He scored 5 in his last game. I just think that he plays in such a way that if it comes off, it looks awesome, and if it doesn't, it doesn't. He doesn't play the game in percentages - he's always trying to do something relatively creative - with that, you are going to be hit and miss.
Obviously, Giggsy is a legend and has done a feck load for the club. But I'd draw a comparison between the two - Giggs is also very hit and miss, and to an extent, always has been. He'll, even now, have games where he's absolutely awesome, and on other days he'll give everything away all day long...
I didn't do it to protect myself - I don't tend to take to heart the insults hurled by e-warriors.A little off topic but I would like to point this out. Why do you find yourself obliged to first say how awesome Giggs is then say what you want ? I have seen this so many times on here for the "legends". It is really strange that someone has to go through this in order to avoid being attacked by others...
My bad. I have seen it so many times I assume automatically that it is the case...I am sure there are some occurences where it is actually the case which I find ridiculous.I didn't do it to protect myself - I don't tend to take to heart the insults hurled by e-warriors.
But I thought it was necessary to the comparison. I wanted to point out that I don't feel that Berbatov and Giggs are in any way comparable in terms of their achievements. But stylistically, there is a similarity.
Btw, I reckon the fact that you see that everywhere is that we all get a lump in your throat when we think of Giggs, and Scholes, and Ole, and whoever else we hold dear and who've been at United for nearly a career, or in the former two's case, for more than most players' entire careers... and when drawing a comparison with Berba who came relatively late in his career and who underwhelmed at first, one wouldn't want to be charged by some muppet to have equated the twoMy bad. I have seen it so many times I assume automatically that it is the case...I am sure there are some occurences where it is actually the case which I find ridiculous.
By the way, I agree with your point and I definitely see where you are coming from in terms of your comparison.
Man...Btw, I reckon the fact that you see that everywhere is that we all get a lump in your throat when we think of Giggs, and Scholes, and Ole, and whoever else we hold dear and who've been at United for nearly a career, or in the former two's case, for more than most players' entire careers... and when drawing a comparison with Berba who came relatively late in his career and who underwhelmed at first, one wouldn't want to be charged by some muppet to have equated the two
Crazier things happen on a daily basis on here.
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Nobody gets a lump in my throat...
I agree but it's Berba, he scored 5 against Blackburn and 3 against Liverpool so he can't be criticized otherwise you're considered to be a hater.Todays performance had nothing to do with bad luck - finishing was sub par but the rest of his game was good.
In fairness while that might be 17 games he's only started 7 up to last night.Last goal was October 2008 against Celtic.
Whichever way it's looked at, it's not a nice record even for someone who isn't expected to score goals on a regular basis.In fairness while that might be 17 games he's only started 7 up to last night.
Spot on.The time to worry about Berbatov is when hes not getting chances and looks totally out of the game, i much prefer Berbatov missing a few and being at the heart of the action to one whos not involved and looking disheartened.
He and Rooney have linked up marvellously well these last couple of games, probably as well as they ever have, Berba could have had 10 in his last 2 matches and id say at least 7 of those were set up by Rooney.
It isn't great but its not as horrendous as saying that he's gone 17 without scoring.Whichever way it's looked at, it's not a nice record even for someone who isn't expected to score goals on a regular basis.