Fellaini on the pitch means one thing, and for many of us he is the prime representation of all that has been wrong with Utd in recent years.
Get rid of him.
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Get rid of him.
Fellaini on the pitch means we have a threat in the box.
Absolutely spot on. I can guarantee most teams would sooner not play against him which makes him a very dangerous weapon when used 'properly'.
1 and 2 : Fair enough but the "criticism" is not totally justified, it's not criticism anymore if even after He gives his all and puts in a good or at least, decent performance you still criticize him. He's not totally useless and actually contributes. I'm sure if another player is in Fellaini's position, people will be much more willing to give the player a chance.
3 : He's an option. If the manager thinks Fellaini can be useful and it helps us to win games (which by the way, really did happen) then why not? options are always good. I'd of course criticize the club if He's here as a first team player alongside Matic and Pogba starting every games but no, He is an option.
4 : I do and yes I contribute despite of how small it is compared to the amount of money They use to pay wages. I'm fine with criticism but not hating a person just because "for some reason" I don't like the guy.
5 : I've said it in multiple threads, as long as I think the club is improving, I'm fine. Call my standard low and is a factor of a major decline (even if it's questionable) if you want, that's alright but I still don't think hating on a player just because you don't like his play style (lumping the ball to him so He can score a header or cause havoc in opponent's defence) is fair. If you're doing an alright job at work and get hate from people around you just because you work in a different way (which by the way is still within the rules and actually contributes to something) will be you fine with it?
Critics are good - They are the sources of improvements. I never said We shouldn't criticize Fellaini but He did well in the match against Arsenal (this forum will be quite unbearable had We lost or drew the game) and some people still want him gone and see him as something disgusting. That, my friend, is hatred and not criticism.
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True and it worked for us yesterday, although I don't know how much Fellani knew about that header.
Jose loves a bit of chaos theory and Fellani brings that, especially against teams like Arsenal who's CB's absolutely panic when a ball gets crossed into the box and there's a big man in there. I wouldn't mind him staying as long as he's aware that this is his place in the team, he's never going to start week in, week out for us due to his shortcomings.
Personally, I wouldn't care if he left, it would force our hand into buying another midfielder who would arguably offer more overall.
Great, then brace yourself for more games like Sevilla when Mou inexplicably decides to forgo playing football and bases the team around swung in balls from the left towards Fellaini.
That's like me saying lets talk about the games where Fellaini didn't play and we still played bad or lost.
Every game he doesn't play is a win. Utd should be above the Fellaini tactic, given the resources and advantages they have, and I don't care if that comes across as entitled.
When we have Tony Kroos and Modric on the bench and the big fella is starting in front of them in midfield, that's a different argument but that's not the case. No ones suggesting he's the answer, just he's an option and a good one if you need something different. For me we went through a period where were we're being bullied in midfield and he came in and offered some steel. It's arguable that the upturn of the last LGV season was Fellaini's form at the end of it that contributed to us winning the FA cup. People have very selective memories and only focus on the negatives has he's never been given the chance as he represents the Moyes era....
Nothing wrong with crossing the ball. Was two great crosses from Martial and Young. If Lukaku scored that goal we'd be praising him.
You know this isn't true though.
Ok, maybe I am a little irrational in my hatred of Fellaini, but when Utd bring on Rashford and Martial I really hope they would play to their strengths instead of basing the game around hitting Fellaini.
I meant it in a spiritual and moral sense.
I'm sure Martial enjoyed having another player to pick out in the middle.
Spiritual and Moral? He's not killed anyone? He just occasionally comes on and offered something different. He's not the demise of Utd, we've never had 22 Paul Scholes in the squad and for some reason, everyone seems to think we did? Fellaini is a 'spoiler' and no ones suggesting he's the face of Utd just an option or a plan B.
We have and we've looked better and much more likely to turn games around without him. This season it seems like we have launched more successful comebacks and rescued more games from losing positions than the last 4 seasons combined since Fergusons retirement. That has coincided with Fellaini playing way less games than the last 3-4 seasons, he's only started 6 games. I don't think thats a coincidence.
Fellaini has his uses but being brought on to launch balls at when we are losing/drawing shouldn't be one of them as it just isn't effective. The stats show us that during his time here, he's a crutch that Van Gaal and now Mourinho have had a bad habit of turning to. Hoofing balls to Fellaini has hindered the development of our attacking play. By the way i don't blame Fellaini for this, this posts sums the problem up well.
He has committed atrocities on the eyes of Utd fans, the trauma of it will take years to recover from.
Alright, forget the hyperbole, I think Utd need to commit to building an attacking style that they can move forward with, which includes having players who can come off the bench without changing entirely the way they play. It is good to have a different option of course but I would prefer it was something other than Fellaini.
I hear you but surely that's something for Jose and not Fellaini after all, he doesn't pick himself. The irony of it is he's honest, committed footballer who doesn't pretend to be anything that he isn't, it's others that suggest that. He comes on and gives 100% every time, never moans or sulks (unlike some) and follows the managers instructions to the letter. Honestly I can't imagine what it must be like having your owns fans booing you and a less stronger character would have crumbled under the pressure but he came back and proved everyone wrong.
Doesn't this embody Man Utd as a club in some way? Many other clubs and Utd of old, he'd be a fan favourite but sadly he represents previous managers failures. I've seen more talented footballers here and the likes of Pogba and Martial et al could learn a lot from Fellaini, as football is sometimes beyond just ability and is about heart, old fashioned 'balls' and yet integrity and humility off the pitch. For this alone is why I like the man.
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You mean the game when we lost our shit completely the moment he came off? Fellaini has his uses whether we like it or not, though I don't think he should get the contract he wants if it's way above 100-140k. He won't play more in any other top club and we've found the right way to utilize him. Should be happy with what he has.
Yes we have deluded minds. No one talks about how he played in the Europa Final and in reality should have been the MOTM. He was massive in that game. Fellaini is never a starter but always his option on the bench gives a lot of strength to the team that knows if we cannot out play the opposition then Fellaini is always there for the Plan B and most teams do not have an answer to Plan B of Fellaini.
I mean Fellaini or not that’s pretty much his go to game plan in every game it’s just launch ball to Lukaku.
He’s a handy weapon to have. Don’t think he is first team material, but if we can’t break someone down or are under heavy bombardment he is handy to have. Do kinda wish he would try and jump more often to win headers. Has anyone noticed a lot of the time he barely jumps and just relies on his height. I mean last year he lost a header to Kante of all people.
Genuinely hope he stays. I don't get the hate. He clearly isnt first choice . He has proved his worth several times. Some people just formed their opinion when Moyes signed him and refuse to change their minds.
Supersub felliani.
That cameo just secured CL football for another year so yes.
yes because without that goal we wouldn't qualify for the Champions League
Yeah that goal was the only difference between finishing 2nd and 5th
im more worried about starts against teams like Sevilla
Fellaini should be used in very specific situations
Like it or lump it that goal DID secure it.Yeah that goal was the only difference between finishing 2nd and 5th
We are now in the CL next season due to the win, which came courtesy of the Fellaini goal.
Yes of course we would probably gone on to qualify but that goal sealed it.
is that you Marouanestrange pedantic logic you are applying there mate
I could make a case for Fellaini staying on but I wouldn't argue he secured our place in the Champions League- it's done over 35 games and I'd guess there's about 13 or 14 players who've had a more important role than him
Love him or hate him you can't deny he does a job for us. It's not the ideal plan b option but it's still an option.
He proved that threat away to Everton last season.
I wasn't too bothered whether he'd sign a contract or not before those quotes. Now I really don't want us to re-sign him.
Odd. Fellaini has only played 544 Premier League minutes this season. Only McTominay and Carrick have played less minutes. The rest have played 1000+
Pointless to keep him when he doesn't even feature that regularly. He is only being kept around to come off the bench, not sure why the player would want to stay. I don't see him getting more game time next year than he already is.
Pointless to keep him when he doesn't even feature that regularly. He is only being kept around to come off the bench, not sure why the player would want to stay. I don't see him getting more game time next year than he already is.
I don't see why he'd really want to leave unless it's about being underappreciated.
He's never going to play for a better and bigger club than Manchester United. He will not play every week, but he's obviously a good plan B. He'll be on decent wages.
We're obviously trying to get him to stay, but if he really wants to go, then so be it. We'll move on with a different option.
I missed this. What quotes?
Brighton 1:0 Man Utd
In the never ending, purgatorial cycle of watching Fellaini play for Man Utd this is the once yearly end of season horror show that makes you say 'if he ever plays again for us it will be too soon'.
It's atrocious he hasn't been sacked off and it's even worse he's being begged to stay. He's so far below the required standard.
It's atrocious he hasn't been sacked off and it's even worse he's being begged to stay. He's so far below the required standard.
If he stays, I hope he'll be used really only as an impact sub when everything else is not working. You could see him wide open many times with Matic and Pogba deciding to make a more difficult pass because he's pointless in attacking build up.
Those quotes following by that performance really makes me want him out. Who does he think he is?
Wasn't the worst player if you go by my expectations of him.
So, our £200,000 a week star player went missing then.
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