SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

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Seems messed up this. There are so many kids who will have performed poorly in mocks due to many different reasons but will have been trying to knuckle down in the final exam. The whole point of an exam is it is a one off. You could be shite throughout the whole year but study for that exam and do amazing in it (also a reason why I’ve always hated exams for judging people’s ability but that is the system).

Hope they have a rethink on this and teachers tell them to get stuffed.
 

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Seems messed up this. There are so many kids who will have performed poorly in mocks due to many different reasons but will have been trying to knuckle down in the final exam. The whole point of an exam is it is a one off. You could be shite throughout the whole year but study for that exam and do amazing in it (also a reason why I’ve always hated exams for judging people’s ability but that is the system).

Hope they have a rethink on this and teachers tell them to get stuffed.
Yeah that's shite. Not a massive deal to be kind with GCSE results and give them the benefit of the doubt as they'll be either going to college or not anyway, but A-Levels is a different kettle of fish and can potentially have a big knock on effect.
 

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Humans are the virus.

Covid19 is the cure.

Discuss.
Well who would have hoped you would return under different account even more negative than you were before?

So last Wednesday my son was not feeling well and we thought he had some kind of stomach bug (came out both ends), which later just became a fever/cough. Then it his the missus with the same symptoms, just in the other order, cough/fever first, then stomach problems.

I on the other hand was fine, maybe some light headache and a bit low energy, but not too bad. Then yesterday it hit me full force and it feels like my lungs are on fire.

None of us has gotten the chance to get tested, but i am pretty sure we all have it now. Oh well. At least we wont have to worry about getting it later then :)
Crap! Get well soon, good luck!
 

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The UK is hardly carrying out any tests, of course the death rate has been higher.

We're really upping them over the couple of weeks and that will be telling.
That's the number of deaths charted not the rate, testing isn't relevant.
 

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Do government seriously think people are going to live like this for 12 months? They’re having a laugh if they think billions of people will accept it. I expect things to get ugly in about 6-10 weeks times. Riots, shopping lifting. We will become a nanny state over a virus which is killing the elderly and people with prior illnesses. Some people will think I’m being harsh but so far 10k people have died on a planet with nearly 8 billion people. Even if we got to a million people the numbers are relatively small given how dangerous this virus is being implied to be.
This to me is a concern, it’s something still a bit taboo at the moment but at the moment most people are scared and are listening and so the social distancing is working. But once people understand and figure out that the probability of them getting ill from the virus is actually extremely low, coupled with not working, Not socialising, no income etc the tide will turn without question.
It’s a rubbish situation and despite what the experts on here say (a lot seem to be missing the long term mental health ramifications of what measures they want) there is literally no right or wrong way to do this. Because whatever happens people are going to suffer one way or another.
 

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Seems messed up this. There are so many kids who will have performed poorly in mocks due to many different reasons but will have been trying to knuckle down in the final exam. The whole point of an exam is it is a one off. You could be shite throughout the whole year but study for that exam and do amazing in it (also a reason why I’ve always hated exams for judging people’s ability but that is the system).

Hope they have a rethink on this and teachers tell them to get stuffed.
Completely fecked up. I was a pain in the arse in School and did next to no work (undiagnosed ADHD) and was predicted Es, Ds and Fs by my teachers because my coursework was half arsed or non-existent. I smashed the feck out of the exams and got mostly Cs with a couple of Ds.

I know for a fact that my teachers would never have given me the benefit of any doubt and wouldn't have awarded me a single C. I guarantee there is tens of thousands of kids just like I was who will be given absolutely zero respect from their teachers who now get to decide their future based on their opinion of the student rather than what the student is capable of given the chance.
 

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It's not just behaviour that needs to change, it's mindset.

This is Barclays in the US, but its just leaked there, I have no doubt our financial institutions are doing exactly the same.

They are cartoon villains. And Lee Fang is a great journalist - he has broken dozens of stories like this over the past 5 years and gets no praise.
 

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India and Pakistan’s coronavirus containment stratwgy should be to immediately have our cricket teams play Each other , in back-to-back games for a week straight. That's the only way we will all stay put at home
 

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Keep telling yourself that. First it's an absolute myth that younger people dont die or get temporarily incapacitated from this. Second, how many of the politicians CEOs and investors are in the risk group ? I'd say a whole damn lot. Third , what do you think will.happen when there no doctors left to attend the 'normal' patients?
The mass loss of life has come when public medical facilities have become too busy and they haven't been able to give everyone the care they require - this isn't something that the million/billionaires who can afford private (or even personal) care have to worry about. Rich people are less likely to be in risk groups in the first place because they can afford better care, have better diets, better quality of life etc. They're also more able to self-isolate than others as they don't have to keep going to work in a pandemic to keep food on the table, are less likely to cohabit with others outside their family, have more spacious houses, less need to take public transport and so on and so forth.

If we come out of this and the stats show that death rates amongst economic and political elites reflect those across the socioeconomic spectrum I'll be very surprised.
 

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India and Pakistan’s coronavirus containment stratwgy should be to immediately have our cricket teams play Each other , in back-to-back games for a week straight. That's the only way we will all stay put at home
Until one team wins and everybody goes and celebrates in the streets
 

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Do government seriously think people are going to live like this for 12 months? They’re having a laugh if they think billions of people will accept it. I expect things to get ugly in about 6-10 weeks times. Riots, shopping lifting. We will become a nanny state over a virus which is killing the elderly and people with prior illnesses. Some people will think I’m being harsh but so far 10k people have died on a planet with nearly 8 billion people. Even if we got to a million people the numbers are relatively small given how dangerous this virus is being implied to be.
Who says anything about 12 months?

Even if we do have unrest, I'd rather think the later it is, the better. More immune people, (hopefully) less virulent strains being selected, closer to vaccines, better knowledge of treatment options.

It makes more sense to start restrictive and ease up as tensions force you to, than allow chaos to install itself and wasting time. 12 weeks of this could only be good.
 

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Seems messed up this. There are so many kids who will have performed poorly in mocks due to many different reasons but will have been trying to knuckle down in the final exam. The whole point of an exam is it is a one off. You could be shite throughout the whole year but study for that exam and do amazing in it (also a reason why I’ve always hated exams for judging people’s ability but that is the system).

Hope they have a rethink on this and teachers tell them to get stuffed.
This is a really terrible idea.
 

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The uncertainty for businesses, parents and kids is just not sustainable.
Note the order of priorities.
 

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Seems messed up this. There are so many kids who will have performed poorly in mocks due to many different reasons but will have been trying to knuckle down in the final exam. The whole point of an exam is it is a one off. You could be shite throughout the whole year but study for that exam and do amazing in it (also a reason why I’ve always hated exams for judging people’s ability but that is the system).

Hope they have a rethink on this and teachers tell them to get stuffed.
I think this verdict was inevitable. The minimum extra they need to do alongside it, is schedule actual exams for students who want to take a chance on getting a better grade in November. It used to be that students could do resits at that time.

This year, students should be allowed to take the grade they're offered or do the exam late. Not much help for university applicants of course, but at least they'll get a real option rather than a year on hold.

In the old days (ie: before education secretary Michael Gove) they used to have other stuff like coursework, and year 12 exams/units they could use, so there might have been a realistic plan B. Now they're stuck with whatever happened last year and whatever happened in the mocks.
 

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What are the neasures that Japan has taken?
Not really what you'd like to hear I guess but the number of people they test is just very low. Read it quite a few times by now and just checked the homepage of the ministry of health Japan: https://www.mhlw.go.jp/stf/seisakunitsuite/bunya/newpage_00032.html according to that they only tested 14k people so far and that was last updated yesterday. These numbers are actually even lower than what I read in some other reports.
 

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Seems messed up this. There are so many kids who will have performed poorly in mocks due to many different reasons but will have been trying to knuckle down in the final exam. The whole point of an exam is it is a one off. You could be shite throughout the whole year but study for that exam and do amazing in it (also a reason why I’ve always hated exams for judging people’s ability but that is the system).

Hope they have a rethink on this and teachers tell them to get stuffed.
I would have been absolutely fecked in those circumstances.
 

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Seems messed up this. There are so many kids who will have performed poorly in mocks due to many different reasons but will have been trying to knuckle down in the final exam. The whole point of an exam is it is a one off. You could be shite throughout the whole year but study for that exam and do amazing in it (also a reason why I’ve always hated exams for judging people’s ability but that is the system).

Hope they have a rethink on this and teachers tell them to get stuffed.
As with every decision being made right now, the only available choices are 'bad', 'worse' or 'even worse than that'.

This is the bad choice.

Nobody wants to make it. But these are the times we're living in.

Same reasoning applies to the strategy of having kids of key workers go to school. It's not ideal, but the alternative is that we cripple the country completely. This way we can at least still hobble along.
 

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This is a really terrible idea.
I bet it ends up impacting poorer areas significantly worse and grammer schools benefit.

I'd have been screwed as i was predicted C and D due to poor teachers but i got As in the end. The only one i didn't was in IT (despite being able to code at this point) because my alcoholic teacher lost everyones coursework and seemed to give out As based on whether you had tits or not.
 

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Serious question: Do you have high blood pressure or do you take medication which results in you having normal blood pressure? I'm the latter but don't know if I still fall into the 'having high blood pressure' camp. Technically I don't, but...
I'm the latter. My blood pressure is controlled by medication. I've got to steer clear from salt though.
Take care and stay safe
I'm practising social distancing. Work, supermarket then home. Not that there is much left in the supermarket by the time I finish work and that's only 14:00, I can't imagine what it's like for the people who finish at 17:00 or later.
 

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Whilst technically that can be true, far more damning things can be said about nearly any other country in the world in that regard. It's a silly argument because of that.

You really think some local authorities asking a doctor to hush himself, by that period - bear in mind the entire timeline of discovery of disease and it's implications - made that much of a difference?

Compared with the hesitation and fluffing around in a country like Italy that's incredibly minor, given the information we (the west) already had available. And we've yet to see how those same levels of irresponsibility will fare in countries like Germany, UK or US.
I've mentioned in an earlier post that I think every government should be held accountable on the way it dealt (and dealing) with the crisis within its territory.
However, the ramifications of the actions and failures in China, in dealing with the outbreak, bear the biggest impact of all.
Can you imagine a reality where, at the very least, the scientific community had an extra month or two to work on an anti-viral or a vaccine, let alone put an action plan for the governments?
We're talking about thousands of lives!
Even just tightening international movement at an earlier stage - in light of real-time data from Wuhan - would have saved many lives and possibly the need for such drastic lock-downs.
And, the economic impact of the cover-up in the first month or two, will remain with us for years and years.