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RedRonaldo

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Powerhouser said:
Sanchez was great for Arsenal but horrible for United.
Di Maria was great for every team he played for accept for United.
Torres was a Ballon Dor contender for Liverpool but looked like the spanish Werner for Chelsea, i could go on and on.

Nobody struggles because he plays in the Premier League, but some players struggle to adapt to a new team, new tactics etc. Just like Hazard in Spain.

If United signed Sanchez from Dortmund instead of Arsenal you would claim he couldnt deal with the amazing EPL defenders. :rolleyes:
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Not really. Sanchez was well past his best during his last season with Arsenal before joining us, we clearly bought a player based ln his reputation who is on his downhill, but at least you can see he trying hard but failed. Same applies for Torres, never the same player even he moves back to Spain after his time in Chelsea. You need to understand not every player is a Ronaldo or Messi who could maintain their top form for so many years. Most of them only managed to peak for a while and were done shortly after. Di Maria never wants to play for us though, this could affect his performance too as he was not in his right mind, and I don’t think he is as good anyway even after moving to PSG.

Sancho, he clearly wants to be here and he is only 21 , he should be on uphill instead. It’s clear that there’s huge gap between BL and PL, he look totally lost here and can’t really catch up with the pace of the game, he will need more time to adapt. Some may find their feet eventually (Havertz?), while others may never (ie Kagawa, Mkhit, Werner).
 

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It was strange that he didnt even try to take on a man or two (even if it ended up with him losing the ball). He maybe tried it once (which I cant remember) but you would at least want him to try. Instead it was very safe and not memorable.

He will take time so hopefully others can help. Id rather see him on the right mostlyl and trying to link up with AWB then changing all the time.
 

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Sylar said:
It was strange that he didnt even try to take on a man or two (even if it ended up with him losing the ball). He maybe tried it once (which I cant remember) but you would at least want him to try. Instead it was very safe and not memorable.

He will take time so hopefully others can help. Id rather see him on the right mostlyl and trying to link up with AWB then changing all the time.
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At this moment, Greenwood is obviously our best option on the right. I don't see a reason to move him from that position.
 

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Eddy_JukeZ said:
At this moment, Greenwood is obviously our best option on the right. I don't see a reason to move him from that position.
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Oh of course, and I think Mason will play and Jadon has to wait for his chance there now. But I think left should be Rashford/Martial when its 4-3-3 or when its that 442 diamond type shape with Pogba on the left, then Sancho should be the right option (even if its as a sub)

Today for sure with Mason up top, Sancho should have been on the right and James left.
 

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FreakyJim said:
He made lots of nice runs. Not his fault we can't play football. I suspect same goes for DVB. The lack of awareness, passing and movement from this team must be really shocking for those two, considering where they come from.
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Now this worries me. VDB never find his feet here even today, it seems he never would find it base on our current approach, as it just doesn’t suit his game at all. What if this also applies to Sancho, that would be bit of problem.
 

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I got ridiculed by posters on here for saying we should consider going for Traore or Saint Maximin instead of Sancho.. now hopefully Sancho comes good and proves them right but at the moment I don’t see how Sancho gets in the first 11 and would rather have either of those two as an impact sub.
 

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I knew he had no pace but what Im seeing now is even worse. He isnt faster than Greenwood.
 

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He started very well, combined quickly and found space, kept the ball, ket the ball ticking. He was probably all fired up with adrenaline to begin with. Then we collectively lost the plot not dealing with Wolves’ aggressive press. As the game wore on and presumably his ignition went down to normal, he was often a millisecond too slow and had to opt for safe passes. This is quite reasonable reaction to getting less space and less protection for someone who plays with high precision in his passing game. He does not play a high risk passing game like Bruno. His ball control and passing technique is excuisite, was today as well. But he lost a bit heart from frustration I think. It’s normal.
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Yeah same summary for me. My biggest worry is Ole's growth as a coach or rather the lack of it. We can't expect to rely on hail mary Bruno high risk chance creation, outrageously efficient Greenwood, Pogba taking on pressure as a midfielder in a 4-2-4 etc on bailing us out. We need more control, more patterns for build up play and that will inevitably improve every one's performance in the squad. Sancho included.
 

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He'll need time. The difference in physicality and space available between the PL and the Bundesliga is huge so he'll have to adapt to that and I can see the first 6months or even a year being spent adapting.

But if our general football is as bad as it has been the last two games, it will take a lot longer. We need to sort our buildup play first and foremost.
 

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He'll come good. I'm not sure about double digit assists and goals every season but I have to believe he'll be much better than what he offered up today.
 

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Knee-jerk reaction: he didn't look bothered at all about giving 100%. Doesn't fancy it? Like I said, knee-jerk!
 

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RedRonaldo said:
Now this worries me. VDB never find his feet here even today, it seems he never would find it base on our current approach, as it just doesn’t suit his game at all. What if this also applies to Sancho, that would be bit of problem.
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Van de Beeks problem is he goes hiding and never showed to be that involved or creative or much of a goal threat at Ajax. Sancho was world class and the most important player at Dortmund and always involved.

Just a case of playing as a team. Like when he plays it back to Shaw sometimes, they need to link up instead of Shaw lumping it in the box from really deep, which is basically a hit and hope pass.
 

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This thread is absolutely horrific. He was awful today but he's also a 21 year old coming from a different league who's played 100 minutes of Premier League football. But we should've signed Adama Traore who has the worst footballing brain in the Prem or Saint-Maximin instead :houllier: I feel sorry for some of your mates who have to listen to you spout this drivel during games.
 

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Welcome to the premier league, Sancho.

No doubt he will improve and finally find out how to execute his dribbling and skills in the PL.

You don't have time to dwell on the ball in this league and he learned that the hard way last night.

He will come good, no doubt about that.
 

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Will probably take half a season to settle in. Coming from a poor euros where his confidence was shattered and the pressure it is to play for United will not help his performances.
 

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It will take time for him to bed in as he isn’t a traditional winger really and needs players to make runs while he creates and drifts into positions.

He will build up the courage to take risks in our side once he understands his team mates better. Not expecting a blockbuster season from a 21 year old. He will grow into the Premier League just fine.
 

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Imo aside from the pace here the biggest problem for technical players who come from another league to the PL is actually the refs. After more than 25 years watching the PL I still have no idea what exactly could be considered as a good challenge and not. Refs in the PL are far more lenient toward physical challenges than any other league. Sancho would need to learn how to overcome both I think.
 

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Strelok said:
Imo aside from the pace here the biggest problem for technical players who come from another league to the PL is actually the refs. After more than 25 years watching the PL I still have no idea what exactly could be considered as a good challenge and not. Refs in the PL are far more lenient toward physical challenges than any other league. Sancho would need to learn how to overcome both I think.
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And strangely enough they can whistle for the most ridiculous and soft "fouls" too. It's very hard to understand at times
 

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And strangely enough they can whistle for the most ridiculous and soft "fouls" too. It's very hard to understand at times
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Yep most of the time it leaves me scratching my head, very frustrating to watch and understand. It's like it's entirely up to the refs and how they'd feel at that moment.
 

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criticalanalysis said:
Yeah same summary for me. My biggest worry is Ole's growth as a coach or rather the lack of it. We can't expect to rely on hail mary Bruno high risk chance creation, outrageously efficient Greenwood, Pogba taking on pressure as a midfielder in a 4-2-4 etc on bailing us out. We need more control, more patterns for build up play and that will inevitably improve every one's performance in the squad. Sancho included.
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Good call, the 4-2-4 bullshit is something that's persisted in our worst games for a while and I can't figure out if it's a personal decision from Bruno (he can feck off to the bench if it is) or a tactical decision from our staff (why?).

It essentially makes defending us in any sort of progressive play very easy as we don't have any players filling the space in front of the back line and it leaves our midfield and defense out to dry trying to play any sort of vertical pass that isn't a hit and hope beyond the back line.
 

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He likes one twos before going for his 1 v 1 situation.

In that game I saw several one twos fecked up and he ended up looking bad for starting that move.

Greenwood, Pogba, Bruno need to get into his wavelength.
 

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It wasn’t a great performance but I thought he was purchased as our solution in the RW? So why the hell did he start on the left and Dan James on the right…….baffling. Though he looked much better after he was swapped over in the second half.

why on earth Ole played AWB and Dan James on the right when everyone knows it’s a proven poor combo is beyond me….

Let’s see how Sancho goes after a few games in the correct position….
 

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Mr Dilkington said:
I got ridiculed by posters on here for saying we should consider going for Traore or Saint Maximin instead of Sancho.. now hopefully Sancho comes good and proves them right but at the moment I don’t see how Sancho gets in the first 11 and would rather have either of those two as an impact sub.
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Good.
 

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Bobcat said:
:lol: Come on. Not a great performance by any means, but its a bit early to write him off maybe?
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I'm not. He'll come great, he's a ridiculous talent. Just think it's funny how players far too often join us and look worse. :)
 

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I knew he had no pace but what Im seeing now is even worse. He isnt faster than Greenwood.
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Greenwood is absolutely rapid so no surprise he's not as fast.
Greenwood is Arguably the fastest player in the squad both with and without the ball.
 

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Obviously it's too soon to be calling him Jaded Shitshow but a disappointing performance, a bit like his England games.

I'm sure he will come good though, may take some time. Perhaps not a regular starter just yet.
 

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He didn't achieve much but there were plenty of positive signs. His first thought was always to turn and go forward, and he keeps the ball under such tight control. He had a few small dribbles where it never got more than a stride length away from him. Once he has settled he will be so good.
 

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GMoore23 said:
Greenwood is absolutely rapid so no surprise he's not as fast.
Greenwood is Arguably the fastest player in the squad both with and without the ball.
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Rashford is the fastest player in the squad, Greenwood second fastest. Source - Opta stats across last 2 seasons.
 

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Having not followed Dortmund that much I've only heard about Sancho's reputation and barely actually seen him play. He's certainly not shown much yet in his Euro 2020 games and early United appearances. I was a bit concerned that he also seems a bit slow? Hope he can settle soon and show us the quality people rave about!
 

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Having not followed Dortmund that much I've only heard about Sancho's reputation and barely actually seen him play. He's certainly not shown much yet in his Euro 2020 games and early United appearances. I was a bit concerned that he also seems a bit slow? Hope he can settle soon and show us the quality people rave about!
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He is fast.

 

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He Will grow into this team . I can understand people being nervous and making comparisons to Kagawa and Mhiki. But this guy is class just needs time to find his feet.
 

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Maybe southgate was right????

On a serious note, people judging a player after 100 minutes is absolutely hilarious. It's surprising people do that all the time, even when a similar example (Havertz) has proven so many wrong in recent history. All those doubters should calm down and show a minimal but required amount of patience. My toddler has more patience than some people in this thread.

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Also, Sancho is kind of known to be a little bit underwhelming in the first half of the season. Many here have no idea what player Man Utd bought, I think.
 
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