Why black out his profile pic?
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 40
- Goals
- 8
- Assists
- 5
- Yellow cards
- 2
- Red cards
- 1
So? Is that worth the suitability to a low block, refusal to run / being useless at winning duels, having poor football intelligence and being hopeless in 2 out of 3 seasons, all while being paid 300/350K a week? Obviously not.
Rashford does have a tendency to score in the big games, I’ll give him that. He’s also proven to more often than not be piss poor outside of goals. The Hazard comparison is a funny one. Being more clinical (the odd season ,that too) is more valuable than every other asset a footballer can have? You’d actually take Rashford over Hazard? Which one has been part of major trophy wins? Who helps the team play half decent football? Definitely not the guy with very little football intelligence. Would be typically of us to dream of great football while actively latching on to footballers who don’t facilitate but hinder that.
Every football can do everhthing - it’s about how often and how successfully they can do it at the highest level. Rashford has been here for around 8 years now and if you haven’t sussed out the sort of footballer is by now, then that is worrisome. His dribbling has always been unreliable and dependent on trial and error / hot steaks of form, rather than genuine excellence. His passing and general intelligence (barring movement which can be good) on the pitch is poor. And he is as bad a footballer as I’ve ever seen - off the ball - at United. All of that make him highly unsuited to possession football and is the reason for his bottom level being so absurdly low with him consistently running brainlessly into traffic and playing nothing passes. What he can do the one odd time is not really as relevant as the entire picture.
I’ll help you with that confusion - the same thing that happened to him in the season before the last one making it two out of three dumpster fire seasons, not “last three games” whatever random term you want to hurl about to try and weaken arguments you don’t actually have responses to.
It’s also interesting how you keep putting the onus on us “to extract the very best out of him”. How about players having an onus to work their socks off and those who can’t, need to go? You can have all your supposed “big game killers” but if they refuse to put in a shift and give the opposition a man’s advantage, it counts for very little.
Wrong. I would think it’s a more nuanced decision to make if he wasn’t A) absolutely pathetic in his effort levels and off the ball qualities B) unsuited to the way a big club should play C) an extremely daft player on the pitch D) paid a fortune. If it’s just form, a bad patch, most people would support and stand by Rashford - they’d still be critical of his quality but more open minded. It’s the effort levels that have turned many against him and imo that’s a deal breaker now (or at least I hope it will be).
The issue here is that he's mostly likely not referring to "abuse on Twitter" in isolation. Only reason they are on such platforms are most likely due to marketing which is taking into account when offering salaries such as his.
Whilst I do agree that criticism has gone beyond constructive, most people are just plain fed up with him. As many people were two years ago, on the back of almost two entire seasons of what we have been witnessing this season. His United career was steering towards six feet under before he pulled last season's purple patch out of the bag. And constant PR pieces, excuses for everything, never any sort of accountability doesn't really help detract from his dreadful behaviour on the pitch. His coined celebration from last year looks even more out of touch than ever before.
What a strange little comment to make.
Not once have I seen any of our players say this. Have you got proof of this or did you just type this in a rage and make this up ?
Sorry what part of that is him playing the 'racism card'? He just said it's abuse. You have no idea what kind of treatment he's gotten either on socials/DMs or in person.
He needs to have a profile on Twitter. What he doesn’t need to do is manage the account himself. With everything that’s gone on this season, it just seems mad that he wouldn’t take a break from social media and let his team take over. If he wants to keep in touch with friends and manage his social life there’s still Snapchat/Whatsapp/Telegram/whatever.
Does this guy ever stop crying?
One thing I give to Bruno is that he's not going on socials each time he stinks out the place which for Rashford is week in, week out
One thing I give to Bruno is that he's not going on socials each time he stinks out the place which for Rashford is week in, week out
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I wonder if it would be possible to create a countdown between each moany social media post, briefing to the media about how hard he works, and sob story? If you graphed it out, it would probably show a trajectory where by 2028, all media across the world is Rashford moaning about how hard done by he is.
I wish he'd just shut up and get on with proving everyone wrong.
Just disable the social media accounts if it's so bad for his PR people
Just disable the social media accounts if it's so bad for his PR people
Rashford's latest "enough is enough" comment is embarassing.
It demonstrates his mental fragility and lack of maturity.
If I was on a few hundred grand a week I wouldn't be reading social media comments about me. The only opinions that would matter to me would be that of my manager and teammates.
Trying to get the "social media world" to always say nice things about you is like trying to herd cats and I am a little stunned that Rashford expects anything else.
One worrying thought is if he is that sensitive to criticism from the public is that because the public criticism is out of sync with what ETH is telling him??
It demonstrates his mental fragility and lack of maturity.
If I was on a few hundred grand a week I wouldn't be reading social media comments about me. The only opinions that would matter to me would be that of my manager and teammates.
Trying to get the "social media world" to always say nice things about you is like trying to herd cats and I am a little stunned that Rashford expects anything else.
One worrying thought is if he is that sensitive to criticism from the public is that because the public criticism is out of sync with what ETH is telling him??
The incessant PR assaults are a big part people are fed up of him. The irony
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The time of night, posted around 2am is more concerning.
I think also he didn’t play Wednesday, United played quite well and seemed liberated by his absence. That must be affecting his ego.
Abuse is wrong. But many players consider criticism of form or thinking they’re not good enough to be abuse.
He knows it'll appeal to the Rashford farts sunshine gang.
Of whom, Ten Hag is arguably a life member.
Of whom, Ten Hag is arguably a life member.
Criticism has been upgraded to abuse these days.
I've had more than enough of this self entitled man child. That's not abuse, it's the reality of what we're witnessing both on and off the pitch. Gets an insanely ludicrous new contract, serves up some of the worst performances I've ever seen in a United shirt, and cries abuse when called out for it.
can’t wait for this guy to be out of the club.
Might not be this summer, or next summer….but when it happens, I’ll celebrate
Might not be this summer, or next summer….but when it happens, I’ll celebrate
I'm sure he's received disgusting abuse, twitter is a cesspit , and maybe you've got idiots shouting stuff at him when he's just out and about with his family or whatever.
In terms of criticism though, criticism about his football specifically, he has deserved it. He's been absolutely appalling this season, just as he was in 21/22. It's now 2 out of the last 3 seasons he's been a waste of space. Strolling around the pitch.
It's increasingly clear it would be better for everyone if he was sold.
In terms of criticism though, criticism about his football specifically, he has deserved it. He's been absolutely appalling this season, just as he was in 21/22. It's now 2 out of the last 3 seasons he's been a waste of space. Strolling around the pitch.
It's increasingly clear it would be better for everyone if he was sold.
Many of the people saying he hasn’t received any abuse have likely left abusive messages about him on this forum & social media.
He should be sold will be best for all parties
He lacks the attitude and he's too thin skinned to succeed at a top club and in the most competitive league in the world. If I was his agent then I'd push him to PSG. He would have 5-6 big games per seasons who would be conveniently sandwiched with games against Nantes, Brest, Clermont Foot and Rielms. No one would give a feck if he jogs around in those games and there are some decent bars and pubs there
He doesn't know. He just hands it off to Phil Lynch and the rest of his PR team.
A blacked out profile pic is good optics for defiance, bravery, blah blah fecking blah.
The timing of the tweet is no coincidence either. "Poor Marcus is up past midnight scrolling through the mean messages in bed." Is he feck...
Abuse is different to criticism
Nobody has suggested otherwise. Criticism, especially on a forum is fair enough, abuse imo isn’t.
Good point.
Yea, knowing what some people are capable of doing, and are doing frequently, I am certain that Rashford has received vitriol, racism, personal attacks and even threats that no amount of unmerited salary or motivational issues can merit. The people writing and shouting stuff like that are certainly a bigger problem in the world than a millionaire refusing to track back or enter a physical duel in an entertainment sports.
At tje same time, as a Man Utd supporter, I wish that Rashford had learnt by now not to read anything on X, not to care about anything on X or anyone around him mentioning anything on X, and to translate any kind of booing and shouting and outside critic to noise worthy of no other response than biting your teeth and fight even harder, even starting to rnter physical duels at peril of getting injured.
I don’t think we have any particular right as football supporters to demand people to risk injuring themselves, sometimes for life, because part of our voluntarily paid ticket contributes to them getting paid obscene amounts of money. As a supporter, I just wish that we have players that do enjoy physical duels, who relish fightbacks and who are not easily hurt by abuse from strangers (like I probably would be). And that the club will only want to pay obscene amounts of money to people that do, at least. People very unlike myself.
Is he getting the amount of real life abuse Beckham got post 1998? This will be an unpopular opinion, but online abuse is not really abuse for a 27 year old man. I can understand if you're a teenage school kid, but an adult man (especially a multi millionaire) can switch off the phone and live in the real world with his friends and family.
I saw people said he posted that tweet around midnight UK time. Instead of resting or catching some sleep, he was doom scrolling twitter and stumbled upon a barrage of negative comments directed at him. It appears that he's deeply affected by the criticism hurled his way, which could explain his recent slump in performances on the pitch. It's a vicious cycle: the more people talk negatively about him, the more it impacts his game, perpetuating the cycle of criticism.
Rashford is getting abuse for shit performances and attitude. It's not comparable to Beckham, the whole country and media hated him for a petulant moment of 2 seconds
marcus is acting like a victim again. He is being criticised for poor form this year. This is not “abuse” like he calls it. I think at this point, it is fair to say it is best for him and the club if he leaves.
Yep.
A rich man moaning about receiving criticism would often just get the dismissive 'man up' / 'that's the small price of fame' type responses.
But the word 'abuse' carries much more weight, and immediately creates a sense of being the victim. So to lump it all in as abuse, when most of it is criticism of poor performances, is a crafty and clever tactic if people fall for it as it immediately shifts the blame / judgement from the underperforming person to those criticising them.
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Why lie?
Rashford can beat his man very often.
I didn’t say anything about his decision making.
Many of his goals in big games have not been on the counter. Probably most of them, actually.
It is the other things you have mentioned that are highly subjective tbh. ‘His control is average’. What if I say it isn’t? Now what?
Great point and one I wish many more people realised.
12:30am isn't 2am tbf.
Right but we're on a football forum. We're here to discuss football, not the ills of the world. This sentiment you have is why Rashford and his people are lumping criticism (of his footballing performances) and abuse together, to blur the lines between them, so they can defend him not being good value for the amount of money he earns at a football club.
Marcus Rashford's performances have not been good this season and he deserves to be scrutinised as he is an established player now in a team that should be challenging for trophies but aren't.
His fluctuating performances are not good enough and ETH should be dropping him, which is part of the problem.
Please god we sell him in the summer. Sick of his media circus.
His fluctuating performances are not good enough and ETH should be dropping him, which is part of the problem.
Please god we sell him in the summer. Sick of his media circus.
You can highlight the word football all you like, I clearly wasn't speaking about the caf specifically, it was a comment about the amount of abuse he gets generally. Not what posters on red cafe think about Rashford's performances, but fair enough we're in the performance thread so maybe I should post it elsewhere.
So many hateful posters 
Rashford, get the feck off social media what are you addicted or something? It's not a necessity to and do other things.... Social media addiction is serious I know, but feck me is it really a hard habit to kick? Like really? I don't think it is...
Rashford, get the feck off social media what are you addicted or something? It's not a necessity to and do other things.... Social media addiction is serious I know, but feck me is it really a hard habit to kick? Like really? I don't think it is...