Do you see any of the three teams who had a realistic chance of winning the title recently who don't have a good structure and didn't benefit from bringing quality players in?
Which they are.
Revisionism? I mean, his GD was better back then than Ten Hag’s this season. There was linear improvement and the FA Cup win. I’m not saying he wasn’t under pressure. I’m saying his trajectory was a little bit more healthy. Although there were dips in form, it wasn’t a 47 game run of poor results and substandard performances.
I actually think Arteta has improved as a manager. This is his first gig. It’s worth remembering that he’s only 42. Ten Hag is on his 13th year as a manager and 5th club.
He'll be learning too - they both took on the PL for the first time at their respective clubs. He will need to learn in how to adapt to a big club and learn the PL ropes just like Arteta did, albeit 9 years older (which I don't really care about).
We have scored 52 goals in the league this season while 6 out of the 7 teams above us have scored over 70 & spurs have 67 goals. In fact United are joint 10th in goals scored with Brentford this season
That was probably the most interesting part of that recent interview. I would have had zero problems if he had done something akin to what Ole did and played two static holding midfield players to make us hard to break down (like the dreaded McFred combo of Ole's time here) and try and grind out a few results but he said it was because he wanted the team to progress and play the same way as when everyone is fit.
Credit for being on course for our worst ever PL season?
How is the saying ‘you cannot teach an old dog new tricks’. EtH is not a young manager who is learning, he is older than Pep Guardiola. He is very much the finished article, unlike say Arteta whose first managerial job was Arsenal.
What do you mean he's the finished article? He got his first job in a big league a year ago.
You mean give the ETH fanbot running that twitter account credit for being so persistent with the bullshit?
Give him credit for what, potentially ending the season with negative GD and worst finish in the table since Fergie retired?
8th and shit football is a great result, all credit to him.
Sure a WUM, mods need to take note and begin looking out for such posts from this member.
Excuses FC
Erik Ten Excuses.
Can we finally ban this account for good? Constant cheerleading nonsense
He’s also had to deal with:
He is 52 and has been coaching for almost 15 years. While he might still learn (everyone in these top positions still learn), he is not a case of an up and coming manager who can reinvent himself. It will basically be, at best, polishing/refining aspects of his game.
My iphone autocorrect keeps changing it to Erik Ten Gag
Closer to Ten Thousand excuses, at this stage.
54
54 actually!
I think for ten Hag, what could potentially go in his favour is the fact that he had a successful first season, getting to two finals, winning a trophy and finishing third in the league.
Not defending Ten Hag but that 400m nonsense needs to stop.
Natural reflex to our playstyleErik Ten Gag
Correct. Pep is 52, EtH is 54. Yet people speak about him like he has just started coaching and is an up and coming manager. He is closer in age to Allardyce than Nagelsmann but people talk like he is a manager who just started.
De Zerbi actually started coaching two years later than Ten Hag
It doesn't matter how long he's been coaching, he's only got his first job in a big league now. That's quite an ageist post, insinuating he can't learn anything new all of a sudden.
Is it also ageist to say that having patience with a 19 years old striker (say Hojlund) is different to thinking than 32 years old Weghorst, who also just came to a big club, won’t ever be that good?
We are lucky Bournemouth took 9 games to come together because they have been way better than us since their first win (5th highest points in the league actually). Brighton have also struggled to replace their midfield, and Palace have only started playing football since Glasner joined, other than that teams below us have been worse than us.
In player terms, Weghorst is at the end of his career. In managerial terms, Ten Hag has his prime ahead of him. Weghorst has had PL experience before he came to us, by the way.
