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Carragher eviscerating the tactics as expected
I'd rather he was managing us next season than ETH. No joke.
I'd rather he was managing us next season than ETH. No joke.
Make it stop.
Dalot can play left back.Just as you have people moaning about Dalot playing lb with AWB on the right, as AWB is either way a dud and on the left you won't get the best out of Dalot who is a superior right back.
People moan either way
Dalot is usually shit either way.
The problem is that after this season, no European football next season, recruitment just got a whole lot harder. You'd be mad to join us as an upcoming player this summer.Rashford has been clowning around for years now under various managers. I would happily cash in on him for big money. He can be replaced. I mean in his last 5 PL seasons he's scored: 17, 11, 4, 17, 7. That's 60 PL goals in 159 games. That's not exactly irreplaceable. I mean he's on 350k p/w, the same as the likes of Salah. For me, he's a definite sale.
I feel like this point isn't valid any more. Especially when the majority of these jokers are his players.What about these bunch of jokers (players), surely they can’t get away with this with every manager.
I disagree though. Ineos are in control of the football operation, so I'm sure it has always been extremely easy for them to pull the trigger, even with verbal agreements from everyone who will eventually be officially in post here. Do you think the Glazers would disagree with him? I think if not for the sale, they'd have sacked him long ago themselves.They are not the CEO, they are not the DoF, yet. They can converse about what they want to do and I am sure they have made plans, but it is a matter of area of competency and chain of command. They are not actually Ten Hag's bosses yet, are they? They could lobby whoever lame duck Glazer CEO is there now to sack Ten Hag, but that is not a good way to go about it when you are not actually in the job, in the office, in the building, to deal with the situation. However I think a perfomance like tonight might trigger a preponed (is that a word?) announcement..
Scenes when he's winning the league over there while this pathetic bunch of players are sabotaging the next manager in 2 years time again.Guy is a complete idiot, we should be begging Bayern to take him on.
They should follow him*Rightly so, they should all be ashamed. They all gotta go and he should follow them too
Yeah, he’s right. We’ve assembled a poor squad (which ETH should also take blame), and our manager is failing miserably in setting us up tactically - not surprisingly it leads to disaster.Carragher “This is the most poorly coached team in the Premier League.”
The scouser gets it.
Wait, you mean there was tactics?Carragher eviscerating the tactics as expected
I'd rather he was managing us next season than ETH. No joke.
Carragher has been always spot on for United managers. I remember him destroying Moyes ten years ago.Carragher eviscerating the tactics as expected
I'd rather he was managing us next season than ETH. No joke.
I agree we do have some very good players, but we have some who lack talent, attitude or both. We could undoubtedly play much better, but I think the team has become dysfunctional. I didn’t mean to imply by the term ‘overhaul’ that we need to get rid of everyone. The manager has undoubtedly failed to build a team. He is too inflexible to manage this group of players.So another overhaul? 2nd in 2 years.
I'm going to say, hand on heart, I think a good number of these players can play better than they are. Not necessarily tonight, but even I think tonight could be handled better. But we do without a doubt need certain players and positions upgrading. I don't think we'll win titles with all of these players, but I think we could play football that has us all feeling optimistic.
He won't make it to the end of the season over thereScenes when he's winning the league over there while this pathetic bunch of players are sabotaging the next manager in 2 years time again.
Not at all. It’s an incredibly straightforward position to be in.Really putting ineos in a tricky position here
I think Gary is secretly pining for a board role at United. The whole Salford thing would make sense then also.Carragher has been always spot on for United managers. I remember him destroying Moyes ten years ago.
Our Gary on the other hand has always been like the most devoted Caf cultists.
"Look at our backline..."Threw the players under the bus, eh.
Depends how the project is sold. If we have a good background team in place, who know their football, then we can sell a project. We need to move well away from the "glamour" signings like Casemiro etc. and move onto young hungry players. There's certainly some allure to being part of potentially making the club good again under a new regime. So much depends on INEOS though, and just what their project will look like.The problem is that after this season, no European football next season, recruitment just got a whole lot harder. You'd be mad to join us as an upcoming player this summer.
Yup, Gary Neville is Mr. "I'd never sack a manager (except the ones on my club's payroll, but we don't talk about them)"Carragher has been always spot on for United managers. I remember him destroying Moyes ten years ago.
Our Gary on the other hand has always been like the most devoted Caf cultists.
Yep, can you imagine being asked to step in due to injuries then he calls you out like that to save his shit lack of system? I'd be 'injured' next week also."Look at our backline..."
You know what, if I'm a defender or sub defender in that squad tonight I'm swinging for him after hearing that. What a twat.
Imagine being Amass sat there listening to that... "listen this back line is shit and I'm not even going to bother giving you a shot even though you are the only one who plays in a position we have no fit players in."
Why would anyone want to play for him after hearing him say that, he needs to be gone yesterday.
I completely disagree that it isn't relevant, if you sack a manager you need to replace them. I also disagree that Southgate and Potter are better managers, but if you honestly believe that I think we are too far apart to meet in the middle.Southgate and Potter are better managers, that actually know how to organise a defence. I ignored your question because it isn’t relevant to the conversation. You’ve just cherry picked two managers that you don’t like (and know little about) to make Ten Hag look better. It’s a deflection tactic that has been used on here for months but most people thankfully see through it now.
Carraghers probably right there, is there another manager in the league that every week with no playing style and no real game plan while refusing to change whatever tactics he does have in place while conceeding 20-30 shots in almost every game and continuing to do things the weve seen over and over again dont work like playing AWB at lect back and the stupid long balls that hardly ever go anywhere near any of our players?Carragher “This is the most poorly coached team in the Premier League.”
The scouser gets it.
Gary is a hypocrite on multiple levels. He'll sack salford managers but demand United give failures and losers more time.I think Gary is secretly pining for a board role at United. The whole Salford thing would make sense then also.
We might get confirmation that aliens exist and that an active United manager posts on this forum all in the same year.
How? Pretty straightforward decision to makeReally putting ineos in a tricky position here
because he’s a dogturd manager who had a new manager bounce that ended 14 months ago and has had 3 very generous domestic cup draws in the years he’s been hereYes, the reason being that you're unable to coach a team properly. Other managers avoid these constant humiliations and even have their team playing nice football once in a while. With lesser players and a significantly smaller budget. Why can't he?
I said something similar a while ago. Every time he talks about United it seems like he's auditioning for a role at the club.I think Gary is secretly pining for a board role at United. The whole Salford thing would make sense then also.
Mate, this is Ten Hag we're talking about. Does is really surprise you?No way he said that
He could well win it with Bayern the same Kovac did it. But Kovac was not a good manager and he showed that with Monaco and Wolfsburg.Scenes when he's winning the league over there while this pathetic bunch of players are sabotaging the next manager in 2 years time again.
What does that actually mean though? It means they were granted to appoint their people in the footballing executive positions, no? If those people only start to work in June or July, it is not actually easy to pull the trigger. The club leadership is in a transition, and INEOS are not sole owners. Ratcliffe can't just call in to sack a manager, can he? Or anyway he won't because that is not the way to run a football club. The way to do it is to appoint people to make the decisions. And AGAIN, these people are not in the job yet. So no, they are not yet in control.I disagree though. Ineos are in control of the football operation, so I'm sure it has always been extremely easy for them to pull the trigger, even with verbal agreements from everyone who will eventually be officially in post here. Do you think the Glazers would disagree with him? I think if not for the sale, they'd have sacked him long ago themselves.
And I'm sure we will do that, the issue is why would you join us when other teams also want to sign you, and by all reports we aren't paying daft wages any more. We'll ultimately see what happens but I don't think we're going to just find better players out there waiting to play for United on the cheap so it's important we start getting the most out of what we have first and then we'll find it easier to get good players in the door, with CL football also.Depends how the project is sold. If we have a good background team in place, who know their football, then we can sell a project. We need to move well away from the "glamour" signings like Casemiro etc. and move onto young hungry players. There's certainly some allure to being part of potentially making the club good again under a new regime. So much depends on INEOS though, and just what their project will look like.
The articles aren't written yet.Personally, I don't think the media backlash has been as bad as I expected.
Maybe it will come in the morning but I thought it would feel worse.