If Danny drinkwater is good enough to be a starter for a title winning team then so is Herrera
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There's nothing "like a man" about going for a tackle where your intention is just to stop play. Pull the shirt. That's it.
Ha, I was thinking the same. I was sort of agreeing with Murphy regarding playacting, but Herrera making a meal of Barkley's kick out made the referee take action. Without it, Barkley would have gotten away with being a petulant child. You just can't kick out like that, and Everton had done a few earlier with nothing said by the referee.
Loves a yellow card, indeed, the fella.
The BBC commentators saying he should have been sent off. I mean, yeah, let's just rewrite the rules as we go.It is hilarious isn't it? Literally a week after complaining about a lack of consistency they want rules to be changed at the whim of the referee.
They just didn't want us to win. I know our manager is deluded, but he has walked the walk in his career. I couldn't have stood Martinez and his smugness. Yes he won a cup, but sent Wigan into a freefall they are just recovering from now.
You didn't correctly interpret what I said.
Yet if it was the other way round, they would want Ander off again and Barkley is showing that little bit of a nasty streak that is great in a player. I love the way Ander can wind people up.
Martinez is a spoofer. The moment I figured it out was when, at a time when Bayern converted Lahm into a midfielder, he suddenly started talking about playing Leighton Baines there. Didn't he make him watch other midfielders and all to get a sense of what they do. Literally no reason to do it - and, tbf, other than the hollow words, he didn't - other than the fact it was a bit of a thing for a few weeks because of Guardiola. Designed to do the square root of piss all other than show how clever and innovative the manager is.
Yet in his mind he should be managing a top club in Spain.
I loved his tackle just as much as his assist. Im always screaming for players on our team to do this when they are not on a booking and were caught on a counter in a 3 on 2 or 3 on 3 situation. Loved it.
Some commentator(Murphy?) couldn't stop criticising him for the foul and kept ignoring the replays showing Barkley's kicking after, showing bias against United and towards young english player, it was embarrassing.
"Unfortunately, that's just yellow card", shut up you cnut.
"Unfortunately, that's just yellow card", shut up you cnut.
Loved his foul on Barkley. A proper cynical move, he made sure there would be no counter attack. That's what we've lacked since Fergie went, a real hard nosed bastard attitude.
And then he pops up with an assist. Brilliant
And then he pops up with an assist. Brilliant
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Madness. I'd much rather be grabbed then have someone risk breaking my leg. Players who complain about a shirt pull like it's an attempt to imprison them in an attic for years are idiotic. I've never met one who wasn't severely lacking in basic intelligence.
He's a smart player who knew that Martial at full pelt had to be given a chance to run at goal, so when he messed up his flick, he was quickly able to stab the ball forward with a tackle/pass, since the objective was the same. It's the sort of thing that should make him our first choice in midfield, and would for a normal manager. We have one mobile, technically strong midfielder and we don't play him. It's bizarre.
Do you realize how silly that sounds when the likes of Cleverley, Ramirez and Barry have all been starters for title winning sides? This fixation with the idea that one only needs to be in Xavi-Scholes class to win league titles is ridiculous when pitted against historical facts of this league.
I don't disagree. But i still don't think hes good enough. People here have an obsession with him, but hes not proved that he is good enough. Definitely the most over rated player on the caf. Hes not good enough at any one thing to be a starter.
Good on schweini to teach him that particular skill. 
Still not sure how he gets that through ball off whilst on his arse.
The thing with Herrera is, I wish more of our players had his attitude.
He's a fighter.
He's a fighter.
The thing is you can never have a team of Rio Ferdinands and Rooneys throughout the team, you will inevitably fill it out with not so great players around them. Herrera has enough about him, in the defensive and attacking phases, to have a role especially under a manager that believes in him and he hasn't got that from Van Gaal. Granted he hasn't had a good season, I don't think anyone would dispute that, but still he has shown enough to be kept around and whether he starts or not will up to what the manager decides he needs and whether he takes his chance when it comes.
He will be the player Mourinho dreamed Oscar to be.
Only time will tell i guess. A squad player for me. I'd like to be proved wrong though. I don't think our other midfielders have helped this season either. Weirdly its still an issue. I'd like to see two starting CM brought in this smer. Schweinsteiger and carrick out. Herrera, schneiderlin and two new players would stand us in good stead i think.
Given the amount of work needed in other areas I would keep Schweinstieger and sign one starting CM this summer and another next summer and let Schweini go then.
People will love the tackle because it's Herrera, but imagine if Fellaini did that, we'll never hear the end of it. It was a very lazy way of doing what he intended, it was almost comical. Still think he's a good player and should feature more, but he's not the saviour many on this forum often think he is.
Fair point on the Fellaini thing, but it was a good foul to concede. They were 4 against 3 at that point if I am not mistaken. Sure, Lukaku would have missed, but Herrera couldn't afford to risk that.
I don't know what the issue with the foul was, it's no different than a trip other than you can't pretend it was something else. It's just in game intelligence - knowing the rules and using them to your advantages. No cheating. The only issue you could have with Herrera is going down easy afterwards. I don't know why Barkley got so offended by it.
Yeah, because bringing a player down is going break his leg. ffs.
That people have a problem with the manner of his foul yesterday is embarrassing.
I agree with you, he did the right thing, i just thought he could have just stuck out a leg, the way he went about it was quite funny.
No, but it gives the referee an opportunity to dish out the red card. Would you have preferred that?
Don't think he's good enough to nail starts either as a CM or 10 but he's a decent squad option.
I don't think he was close enough to do that. Also, do you remember when Rooney did what you are suggesting last season against West Ham ? Got sent off. Why risk a Red when the simple thing was this. But yeah, was funny though!!
I dunno how it's being suggested as passionate like some posters here mentioned, but I do love him for it though.
He wasn't last man and it was high up the pitch. His first foul also.
Actually attempting to tackle the player and brining him down is better than such blatant feckery.
Bizarre examples. Rio and Rooney were the "not so great" players to Vidic and Ronaldo.
I love Herrera as a player. He is really intelligent with a great attitude. If he was better technically he would be top class. The assist sums him up. Saw the run, it was the right ball to put Martial through but he messed up the technically difficult flick. His determination got it through anyway and Martial won the game. I wish United had more players with his attitude.
Why is it better? You have any facts?
You obviously misunderstood me, Rio and Wayne were the great players whilst the likes of Park, Valencia, O'shea etc filled out the team and squad. Herrera is not perfect but he can be an important part of a successful team due to his attributes and tenacity.
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