His strengths are not being utilised.
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 50
- Clean sheets
- 13
- Goals
- 0
- Assists
- 0
- Yellow cards
- 6
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
I know I’m in the minority but I’d do not think he is a better shot stopper than De Gea. Other attributes are definitely an improvement mind.
I was doubtful about his ability when he signed, tried to get myself excited, but now I think my initial gut feeling was right.
Hope he gets better.
Hope he gets better.
I don't have much issue with Onana the player. Just with ETH's misguided attempts at spending that much on a new keeper would somehow resolve something at the back, and in the process, squander our transfer budget on yet another nepotism hire from ETH's past. I don't see much difference between what Onana has demonstrated so compared with the performances of most PL keepers. Nothing against the player, it just seems like money that could've been spent elsewhere to improve our deficiency in attack. Same argument applies to Mount.
We went from a keeper who can't kick to a keeper who can't save.
Ah Manchester United, you're one of a kind!
Ah Manchester United, you're one of a kind!
Fair enough, I agree completely with that
He was a problem but Onana may not be the solution.
Transformative
Think he was signed based on his CL final performance which caught us all by surprise. But I don't think he's a good keeper overall. Unless a shot is directed at him it's going in. Plenty of times I feel like he's slowing down our play for no reason, takes forever on the ball. Today even his long passing wasn't good. I don't think De Gea is the answer, but I'm pretty sure there are plenty of top keepers who are capable of more. I think we fecked up with this one.
Passes and goalkeeps like a midfielder
We still have the same issue as before-our outfield players are not suited for a pure possession and pass out from the back style. I said the same thing when ddg was here. Too often with ddg nobody fecking knew how, or wanted to, get themselves open for a pass under pressure to retain possession. So ddg was forced to go long over and over. Same damn shit under onana. Biggest misconception is that it starts with the gk when in reality it starts with the first person to show for the short pass and is on the whole team to come together to constantly provide players passing options when under pressure
The goals he's conceded were good goals but good keepers keep some of them out. He needs to do better.
I said it last season, and I said it again a couple weeks ago: there’s not much use having a goalkeeper good with his feet if you don’t have onfield players able to turn under pressure.
The more he plays, the less I’m convinced by Onana. He seems to stand on his line as much as De Gea, he might be calmer with the ball at his feet but his long range distribution doesn’t seem that great, and he’s showing concerning signs about his shotstopping abilities.
Also for a sweeper keeper, he doesn’t seem to sweep that much.
I don’t know if it’s the pressure getting at him, but except for his first game, he seems to have stopped being vocal and commanding his back four.
Anyways, looking forward to his second clean sheet
The more he plays, the less I’m convinced by Onana. He seems to stand on his line as much as De Gea, he might be calmer with the ball at his feet but his long range distribution doesn’t seem that great, and he’s showing concerning signs about his shotstopping abilities.
Also for a sweeper keeper, he doesn’t seem to sweep that much.
I don’t know if it’s the pressure getting at him, but except for his first game, he seems to have stopped being vocal and commanding his back four.
Anyways, looking forward to his second clean sheet
Awful, but at least he can pick out a pass, right?
Oh he's certainly transformed our play alright. Let's loads of goals in but moves into a high position when we have the ball, what a nutter.
It's still early to write him off, but I really don't see his distribution which he was so lauded for.
As for shot stopping, he's been bang average thus far
As for shot stopping, he's been bang average thus far
The keeper just isn’t the problem. Maybe if we didn’t get our goal peppered with shots to begin with that would be a start.
City could play without a keeper and win most matches
City could play without a keeper and win most matches
His ball playing skills are greatly overrated.
The new scapegoat....
Plays like a midfielder stuck in goals.
Not sure how he’s getting any blame here like
That's because he never appears to come out to narrow the angle.
He’d be fine at City or Arsenal because he matches their play style, possession and ball retention. Here we need a shot stopper which is why DDG stuck around for so long , we give up possession and chances so often it’s hopeless being a ball playing keeper. Even Alisson and Ederson would struggle here.
Anymore ex Ajax players for big money that we can sign that turn out to be average? Identify them and blacklist them immediately.
Haha these posts man
sure let a goalkeeper have no defence or midfield and then say “go on son, keep a clean sheet”
ridiculous
Guardiola talked about him in the build up to the CL final. His performance wasn’t a surprise or a Kleberson-esque World Cup performance.
Im no fan of David Raya, but can't see any difference between him and Onana.
One was 50 million, the other was a cheap loan that would have allowed us to spend 50 million elsewhere.
Think of how many other ETH nepo babies that would have bought.
One was 50 million, the other was a cheap loan that would have allowed us to spend 50 million elsewhere.
Think of how many other ETH nepo babies that would have bought.
I don’t blame him for any of the goals, they were gifted chances. I feel for him, you can see the frustration when he has the ball at his feet and nobody is opening themselves up for a pass, and he ends up having to boot it upfield.
Most shots on target are goals. We probably are biased because we are used to David saving most shots. Not saying David is better but this isn’t much of an improvement. Hopefully he settles in finds form fast!
Think he should have done better with the third. At the same time he did well on the fati chance.
I don't understand why we got him, and have made him play different from pre season. Is it because he got lobbed in a friendly? I feel like this is a tactic rather than an Onana chance
It's gonna be hard to judge him fully until he has a settled defence in front of him.
Has he has Martinez and varane at least start in front of him in consecutive games (and finish them)?
We might see his best when everyone is fit and available
I don't understand why we got him, and have made him play different from pre season. Is it because he got lobbed in a friendly? I feel like this is a tactic rather than an Onana chance
It's gonna be hard to judge him fully until he has a settled defence in front of him.
Has he has Martinez and varane at least start in front of him in consecutive games (and finish them)?
We might see his best when everyone is fit and available
Not at fault for the goals but without second viewing I thought he could have saved the third one.
We wasted so much money on this guy. And to make the matters worse he'll be going to AFCON and the other keeper we signed is much worse than him. If you don't like Onana, just wait for Altay because he's the master of blunders.
Paying 60m only to weaken your GK department is farcical. EtH deserves sacking just on that.
Paying 60m only to weaken your GK department is farcical. EtH deserves sacking just on that.
His would have needed Ronald Koeman level passing from the back to match the hype. He doesn't, very composed on the ball and strikes a mean diagonal but it isn't transformative, no one player can be in this situation. Ultimately the approach of the team has to change, how it is constructed, then you get the best out of his ball playing.
Barthez 2.0 with the fun
Because teams sit back so his strength is nullified. Now we are left with a below average keeper in goal
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Can't pass. Can't save. Stuck in Africa for a month mid-season. Yep, great deal. Managers should be barred from signing ex-players.
I think a problem with the passing is two fold. When he's going long we really only have hoijlund attacking it. Rashford doesn't really and it becomes an easy clean up for the opposition. It's a good tactic to try and get the second ball but we aren't doing it correctly imo
For the short passes it's fine when we have Martinez. But then short to medium were giving it to either Eriksen or casemiro (can't say mctominay because he doesn't show)
I'm interested to see how it is when we have amrabat as the one showing down the middle creating options wider.