Just seen this on SSN are these the same sources that said Chelsea bid 74mil for Kaka?
Antonio Valencia
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) was joined by comedian Ali Woods to look back at the best and worst moments of a rollercoaster season with the annual United Hour Awards.
Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
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It's not the decision making, it's the bottle to keep making the same decisions that got them where they are because they could start to question weither it's the RIGHT decision...
You look at berbatov as an example . At spurs he made the right decisions because he knew he was the dogs bollocks. So he got forward as much as he could
At United, for me he looks for the ball more deep which is a decision based on trying to impress. He's not doing all he was at spurs.
No one here doubts that if he just did the same things he did at spurs, he'd be a success here but I think weither it's we as a club or the player himself - rather then him thinking about scoring it's now assisting
When did 14 goals 15/15 goals become acceptable? It's not and it's not the player we bought
Sky News has breaking News that Wigan have recived bids for Valencia from both United and Real Madrid in excess of £16 million.
What on earth are you on about????
231 in all competitions for us, with Nani getting 10 goals and 12 assists, or 10% of our goals came from Nani last season through goals or assists.
80 goals in all competitions for Wigan, where he contributed 6 goals and 7 assists to it, 16% of their goals came from him.
Although Valencia's started 26 more games during that time.
He turned down the chance to go to Madrid in January.
Looks like my hunch might be right then.
Somebody has just woken up it seems
Ecuador v Argentina 9.30pm on Wednesday night looks a must watch now.
I don't think Valencia's all that to be fair.
The thing that annoys me is I've known about Valencia for a long time, his performances at the last world cup also suggested to me that he would be worth a £3 million gamble.
I was watching the Treble tape last night, and was reminded of some of the reactions to us signing Yorke. Most of them were that he's a good player, but way overpriced at 12.6 million. Well, How wrong they were. Like Fergie said, he had everything and all he needed what a platform. From a good league player, he turned into a absolute world beater who had everything - except the brain to keep it going for years. 29 goals, 23 assists... An amazing season for a striker.
I don't know if Valencia is the same. I thought he was going to be a great player when I saw him in the world cup three years ago, so to find him at Wigan three years later is a bit disappointing.
But really, my system is that I have an opinion - and then if Fergie wants a player, it doesn't matter what I think, I hope we get him. So IF Fergie wants him (and that's still an if), well, you know the rest.
I don't know if Valencia is the same. I thought he was going to be a great player when I saw him in the world cup three years ago, so to find him at Wigan three years later is a bit disappointing.
But really, my system is that I have an opinion - and then if Fergie wants a player, it doesn't matter what I think, I hope we get him. So IF Fergie wants him (and that's still an if), well, you know the rest.
The thing that annoys me is that Fergie is being so stubborn in not hiring you as a scout.
Sorry Iam a bit late , been out with my kids.Somebody has just woken up it seems
Or he could just become the next Quaresma.
That's pretty much spot on. Teddy's another most doubted.
Hopefully bollocks, what is their source?
If true, then this is the time for you to show your power, Real. Those damn Mancs wouldn't give you Ronaldo, so it's time to beat them by grapping Valencia!
I dare you...
Iam with you on this ,good player for Wigan ,but not sure if he is United quality.
have you ever played football spoony?
Psychology plays a big part in sport.
Being the dogs bollocks at wigan means feck all walking into united and when people talk about decision making people need to know the facts
The fact is United can afford to lose maybe 2/3 games a season in the league because of expectation and the pressure put on the team by the fans and the other players
At wigan you can lose 10 games ....ecuador? no one even cares (apart from the equadorians)
so when you play for a bigger club, the demands are increased and knowing that you always have to win..and knowing your playing for a club where every team is up for it...puts pressure on players ...and therefore it puts pressure on you
It's only the players that are strong mentally, that are top players. Having talent means feck all if you crumble under pressure...and valencia MIGHT make it but he might not
Saying his decision making is better then nani's isn't a great point
He's already said Sir Alex has told him to play differently, to play deeper.
He;s not trying to impress, he's doing what he's told. If he wasn't he wouldn't be in the team.
Don't sweat it, I'm just taking the piss
Not at United.
Had we have taken Quaresma instead of Ronaldo I doubt he'd have been too much worse at this stage.
Aye, he's been even more impressive for Ecucador than he has been for Wigan IMO. Was superb in the last WC and shat all over Brazil in their last qualifier.
This is another player that has flattered to decieve at a small club, out shining the dogged work man like players. The guy has got some ability, that is there to see. But again the price is stupid in my opinion, for a player whom has little top level European experience and in all honesty is no better than what we already have at the club.
We already have an expensive winger in Tosic whom we have seen very little of and if we where to purchase a wide man I rather go for some one like David Silva.
Do we seriously need Valencia, when we have Nani who will want to prove a point next season and Ronaldo who is ten times the player Valencia is.
We already have an expensive winger in Tosic whom we have seen very little of and if we where to purchase a wide man I rather go for some one like David Silva.
Do we seriously need Valencia, when we have Nani who will want to prove a point next season and Ronaldo who is ten times the player Valencia is.
Yes, but that doesn't mean players won't make the grade. Rooney was the tits for Everton, he certainly made the grade. As did Rooney, Ruud, Stam, Pallister, Bruce, Cantona etc etc etc etc. The list is endless.
Valencia is also a dogged, hard-working player. But he has quality as well.
Some people just don't have the right attitude.
You can't beat it into them.
Nani might just get sold and then become the next Quaresma.
Exactly and I never said he wouldn't, but even at wigan he's not really impressed me. 16 million? yikes and I think what we have is potentially better anyway
We turned down the chance to sign Quaresma. But Nani seems to be cut from the same cloth.
Pure speculation. But perhaps Nani is off as part of the deal for the striker we're surely signing if we arent taking Tevez - so we're looking at a player to come in and replace him.
If we're to sign Ribery he'd cost over £35m. Prices have gone insane(I didn't think they could go any higher).
he didn't end the season in the team lol
I only hope Sir Alex asks him to just do what he did for spurs because for me that's the only way we'll see the player we bought.
Quaresma's been shite at a three top clubs now, why would he not be shite if he went to United?
We will probably get him. Doubt Madrid would go from targeting Ronaldo to Valencia.
Or he might get sold and become the next Ronaldo.
Who is to say
He wouldnt be the first player to leave in recent years as a young player and end up being among the best in the world in his position. We've seen what can happen this season when you let quality young prospects go, like with Pique coming back to knock us out of europe.
true but just think 19 and we got ruud. I honestly do think it's his agent though
Ribery would be more like it as then we'd be bringing in someone that is probably better then park, nani currently certainly
A move could be the best for both parties. He's clearly talented but he may not realise it at United for whatever reason.
I know damn it. My next tip off would be Freddy Guarín!
Well, you did.Or he might get sold and become the next Ronaldo.
Who is to say
He wouldnt be the first player to leave in recent years as a young player and end up being among the best in the world in his position. We've seen what can happen this season when you let quality young prospects go, like with Pique coming back to knock us out of europe.
You said he would turn into a great player here.
I was just saying he might not.
Because at 17 he would have been a lot more impressionable than he is now.
In fact, going to Barcelona at that age and being around the likes of Ronaldinho, Deco and Eto'o may be one reason he hasnt lived up to his potential.
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