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Agreed, fecking awful attitude ….can’t stand cheating.
Such as?
He'd be much better but honestly think he's very over rated personally. Even when he was tearing it up for Dortmund, in his odd England appearance around the same time he didn't do much.
Picking a random time period: Fortune, Richardson, Kleberson, Eagles, O'Shea etc. Pure skill wise he's ahead of players like Alan Smith and tbh even a regular like Park. I really don't think technique/talent/ability are his issues. We're just not a very functional attack right now.
….but Bellingham?
Don't think any of those could be called key players, outside of O'Shea and Park, and they were more utility types. Was thinking you would be looking at key starters.
You see Antony do amazing things on the pitch only to let himself down with bad decision making or technical overreach. I think there's a decent chance of him turning into a world class player with proper coaching. Frustrating as he can be right now, he's an absolute keeper.
He literally did it yesterday., Early in the game when he beat Toti on the outside and then passed it to Wan Bissaka in the box
Technical ability is only one of the attributes you need in professional football. Mental and physical ability also matter. This is why many YouTube freestylers can't make into professional games.
Very well said, I'd even say that the mental part is THE most important aspect of things
I’m glad you noticed that both mental and physical ability are strengths for Antony. He’s strong for his size, has great balance, is quick, obviously has a lot of self belief and is aggressive and determined. These are all great qualities to have.
The thing is that he played well except for those final balls. He was very dangerous and it wasn't a coincidence that so many good chances came directly from him. It was a step up and if he can take those positions and create those opportunities more often then most likely he will start scoring and assisting on a more regular basis.
Maybe or maybe he has the same issue as the likes of adarma troare but without being half a dangerous one on one and never develops a final ball.
How has he been very good. The output is a joke for a player in his position.
Ronaldo was completely different though , he had great pace, incredible skill and was still filling out physically . His end product was inconsistent but he obviously had huge potential. Antony currently has all of his flaws but none of his strengths so I just don't see the potential
Not too bothered about his statistics, the goals and assists will come in time. I think many of us can also see how much he contributes on that right side, over and above just goals/assists
He hasn't been very good though. His lack of end product was the reason people wanted to flog Rashford to the other side of the galaxy last year.
So you cant cite anything tangible so you just talk in general terms, as is always the case with people who are convinced Antony is doing well
What do you mean by 'anything tangible'...? Another poster who thinks that football is played on a spreadsheet?
I don't see that at all. Actually I think Antony adapted very well to the league, as his limitations are the same as they were in the Netherlands. Same applies to strengths. I certainly don't think he landed badly in this league (like Sancho).
Strange take that one, he assisted for the goal and was the most dangerous player of ours.
I'd agree about assist stats if we were talking about midfielders but for a wide player? I think its a pretty useful stat. As least to the point where you can say if a wide player only has two assists all season something needs working on.
I wasn't just referring to stats I meant even just a vaguely sensible description of what he has been good at. You referenced him getting into good goalscoring positions and having a great strike. The fact that was all you can come up with doesn't seem to indicate he is having a particularly good season. Especially as the idea he has a great strike on him isn't really true, he takes huge numbers of shots and the majority are terrible. Occasionally one will go in but it's a poor return for the amount of shots he takes, I would suggest your average pl centre back could score as regularly if given the same chances.
He was carrying a bad injury quite clearly too. When he was running he didn't look right to me all season.
Rashford's terrible general play and his utter disinterest in actually putting in an effort was why people wanted to sell him last season. The lack of end product was just the cherry on top.
Elanga last season was better in those aspects, let alone Antony this season.
Teams don't give space to Antony at all, all the chances he gets are because of his off the ball runs which is helped by quick passes from either Bruno or one of the CMs. He barely gets space on RW when he build up the game slowly like how AWB or Valencia used to get (when he was on decline).
