Dr. Funkenstein
Not CAF Geert Wilders
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Yes, I'm familiar with the burden.Do you actually support(fully) any club?
Yes, I'm familiar with the burden.Do you actually support(fully) any club?
When he got sacked he had scored less goals, had less shots and had less points than LVG. After three years he leaves every club he's been at in a worse state and we are already starting low enough down.Yep. He'd have to be a magician of the dark arts variety to makes us as unwatchable as the great El Vee Gee.
My feeling is that Mo and Mendes 'let it slip' that we're in talks with him. Gives them the upper hand as they know most fans are thinking short term and will only see the need to get back on top immediately. Moreover, the 'Pep' factor has panicked supporters. It'd be rather clever of them to let it be known that there are talks, and then let the media do the rest imo.If we are in talks, it pretty much a certainty he will become manager. The timing is just weird, though i guess it was something that was never meant to get out.
Yes, I'm familiar with the burden.
Indeed.Fergie never dropped anywhere near as low
Good. I'm sure you'll back him whole heartedly till he starts doing an LVG at United then.When he got sacked he had scored less goals, had less shots and had less points than LVG. After three years he leaves every club he's been at in a worse state and we are already starting low enough down.
He's a lot less attack-minded than Hitler, that's for sure.It's going to be a bleedin' civil war on here should José struggle, with those who want to shag him on one side & those who believe he's Hitler without the charm on the other.
Nope. Don't like the man at all.Good. I'm sure you'll back him whole heartedly till he starts doing an LVG at United then.
A cunning and smart manager? Yes please!My feeling is that Mo and Mendes 'let it slip' that we're in talks with him. Gives them the upper hand as they know most fans are thinking short term and will only see the need to get back on top immediately. Moreover, the 'Pep' factor has panicked supporters. It'd be rather clever of them to let it be known that there are talks, and then let the media do the rest imo.
Chelsea were in that bad state, that they reached the finals of UCL in the same season he left, with virtually every player being a Mourinho player.When he got sacked he had scored less goals, had less shots and had less points than LVG. After three years he leaves every club he's been at in a worse state and we are already starting low enough down.
Up for some gunrunning, Steve?It's going to be a bleedin' civil war on here should José struggle, with those who want to shag him on one side & those who believe he's Hitler without the charm on the other.
He's a lot less attack-minded than Hitler, that's for sure.
Looks like you're going to find it difficult to follow Mourinho's Red Army.Nope. Don't like the man at all.
And SAF is maybe the greatest manager of all time.Fergie never dropped anywhere near as low
He wouldn't have left these places had everything been a fecking bed of roses. The fact someone comes in and instantly improves things is a slight on Maureen, not a boon!Chelsea were in that bad state, that they reached the finals of UCL in the same season he left, with virtually every player being a Mourinho player.
He left Madrid in a terrible position. The team was that bad that they won UCL the following season.
And apparently he left Inter in a mess. Winning a treble means that the team was in a mess.
The only team he really left in a bad position is Chelsea now. But the legends grow, and Twigginater will find himself supporting a club who wins trophies, but hating their manager. It would be fun.
Losing Pogba and Pique was far more of an error. Genuinely world class players who are proven talents at the very highest level. Lukaku and KDB haven't proven that yet.Even under Fergie we lost Pogba, Rossi, Pique to another clubs... All of them have been doing well.. Rossi been unlucky with injures tho.
No, he wasn't the manager since the early nineties, was he?That condition is Van Gaal as manager though isn't it?
Yes and No. I joined this site because I was very happy that the greatest club in England hired a great manager, it was an audicious choice that fit the club and I felt like giving and discussing a bit of background information on the new manager as I'm quite familiar with his work. Appearantly this was appreciated because I got suddenly and prematurely promoted from the newbie forum and I continued oosting.You only joined this site when he was appointed and your only real interest is in supporting him.
I don't mind him being cunning and smart. I'm not 100% opposed to him. But he can be an emotional mess as we've seen. And I doubt a 50+ year old man is likely to change his personality. Frankly, we shouldn't expect him to. I'm also afraid of him having too much say in how the club runs - United need to nip that in the bud. If we had someone there with proper football knowledge that he'll be accountable to I wouldn't mind him at all. I just think we will be in for a shock if we let him have control the way we've always done with our managers. It would cost a hell of a lot of money to rectify things should he put us in the shit.A cunning and smart manager? Yes please!
Compared with the guys in blue jeans having his blood froze seeing a great man coming
Admittedly this would be infinitely worseImagine the meltdown if we have Giggs as manager at te start of next season.
The best reply I've read in this thread.I don't mind him being cunning and smart. I'm not 100% opposed to him. But he can be an emotional mess as we've seen. And I doubt a 50+ year old man is likely to change his personality. Frankly, we shouldn't expect him to. I'm also afraid of him having too much say in how the club runs - United need to nip that in the bud. If we had someone there with proper football knowledge that he'll be accountable to I wouldn't mind him at all. I just think we will be in for a shock if we let him have control the way we've always done with our managers. It would cost a hell of a lot of money to rectify things should he put us in the shit.
I just think we need to be calm here. Stop using LVG as the barometer of making future decisions for the club. LVG should have no bearing on the direction we need to take.
I was in the same position as you when we brought in Van Gaal. Supporting United is weird when you can't stand the managerand don't think he's the right person for the club. You should just make peace and enjoy the ride or the next few years will be frustrating for you.Nope. Don't like the man at all.
It wasn't exactly improve, right?He wouldn't have left these places had everything been a fecking bed of roses. The fact someone comes in and instantly improves things is a slight on Maureen, not a boon!
I'd rather him calling the shots rather than giggs and rooney calling them, just like how they lead a mutiny for having chips? Yeah right, makes me so wanted a stronf manager to tell them it's my way or the highwayI don't mind him being cunning and smart. I'm not 100% opposed to him. But he can be an emotional mess as we've seen. And I doubt a 50+ year old man is likely to change his personality. Frankly, we shouldn't expect him to. I'm also afraid of him having too much say in how the club runs - United need to nip that in the bud. If we had someone there with proper football knowledge that he'll be accountable to I wouldn't mind him at all. I just think we will be in for a shock if we let him have control the way we've always done with our managers. It would cost a hell of a lot of money to rectify things should he put us in the shit.
I just think we need to be calm here. Stop using LVG as the barometer of making future decisions for the club. LVG should have no bearing on the direction we need to take.
The Inter squad he left he had run into the ground. There was nothing a manager could have done with them the season after, they were pretty much done.Chelsea were in that bad state, that they reached the finals of UCL in the same season he left, with virtually every player being a Mourinho player.
He left Madrid in a terrible position. The team was that bad that they won UCL the following season.
And apparently he left Inter in a mess. Winning a treble means that the team was in a mess.
The only team he really left in a bad position is Chelsea now. But the legends grow, and Twigginater will find himself supporting a club who wins trophies, but hating their manager. It would be fun.
I know!Admittedly this would be infinitely worse
My biggest fear with Giggs is that I don't want him to be sacked at all, so if he fails it's going to really hurt me.Imagine the meltdown if we have Giggs as manager at te start of next season.
He's a lot less attack-minded than Hitler, that's for sure.
SAF consistently fell out with plenty of his players and most of us accepted he knew best.To be honest I would prefer someone who doesn't have the tendency to fall out with his players after 3-4 seasons. I'm also not really fond of his playing style but he usually delivers success for a while and I guess that's why most people want him here.
"Burn Mourinho Burn"Twiggy will be singing Jose's name next season. 100%.
And yet somehow, Moratti considers Mourinho the best manager he ever hired. Moratti wanted to win UCL at all costs. When Mourinho went there, Inter hadn't won UCL in 50 years and hadn't reach semis since 2003. He didn't had even a top 8 team in Europe, and didn't have near as much money as others. What the heck was he supposed to do? Somehow win the UCL in 2 years while also signing young players, all that in a limited budget? Who would have been able to do it?The Inter squad he left he had run into the ground. There was nothing a manager could have done with them the season after, they were pretty much done.
He arrived and spent most of his money right away on Ricardo Queresma and Sully Muntari. Queresma (his biggest signing) won worst signing of the year.
He sold Ibrahimovic and spent his money next year on 30 year old Milito. His defence that night consisted of four players who were 30+ and he had no intention of buying any one younger.He knew it was his last season and got the most out of his players, without any thought of the future.
That's what he does. He burns players out. He played John Terry in every minute of every premier league game last season. Then he is pants this season and can't see why. Matic last year is in the prime of his career, didn't get a break and he looks broken this year. I predicted Mourinho's shit third year at Chelsea while other posters were making predictions of him dominating the league for years.
Because Jose doesn't have the ability to think long term and improve after he falls out with these players.SAF consistently fell out with plenty of his players and most of us accepted he knew best.
Why the double standards with Jose?
It is funny cause it's true.Twiggy will be singing Jose's name next season. 100%.
Not how I see it. I see it as Mourinho got the most out of an aging squad, knowing that in the future it would cost these players form and fitness, and then resigned knowing he couldn't build the team back up.And yet somehow, Moratti considers Mourinho the best manager he ever hired. Moratti wanted to win UCL at all costs. When Mourinho went there, Inter hadn't won UCL in 50 years and hadn't reach semis since 2003. He didn't had even a top 8 team in Europe, and didn't have near as much money as others. What the heck was he supposed to do? Somehow win the UCL in 2 years while also signing young players, all that in a limited budget? Who would have been able to do it?
The Inter team was great if Benitez didn't happen. Milito and Sneijder were two of the best players in Europe, as was Eto'o. Cambiasso was still good, Maicon and Cesar was still great, Lucio and Samuel were still useful and Zanetti was still going strong. The spine of the team was there, and the new manager needed to just built on it. Instead, FSW decided to change anything. And they burned!
Yep.Twiggy will be singing Jose's name next season. 100%.