No that only works when you win.
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Thats how referendums work Paz, they exist because of the political situation at the time and the mood of citizens/electorate.
And re-executed over and over and over again?
Curious, do you support new Scottish independence referendum?
If the political situation dictates. Theres enough doubt about Brexit around to make a 2nd referendum possible. You can't say democracy only works when it suits me or my ideals and once my sides won then that should be enough. The result was so tight there was always going to be doubt and discourse about it plus referendums arent the same as elections.
As for Scotland yes I would want a second referendum as I am a nationalist and would hope a successfully independant Scotland would hasten a United Ireland.
So if the UK / EU had agreed in Jun 2016 that we need a deal by Dec 2016 to avoid uncertainty for both sides, and we did, you’d still clamour for a re-think even now?
If not, opportunistic much?
Very interesting re your ‘nationalist’ outlook, but seems you are also pro-EU?!
Edit: AV voting system referendum a good example too; guessing should be voted on every few months / years too?
Had only the Remainer dominated parliament acted thus in the past. Such direct democrac y was felt to be an unneceesary, however. Or in the case of the Lib Dems, bless their cottons, they wanted a simple In/Out vote to put the issue to bed once and for all.
Should MPs so choose, they are empowered to establish a set of procedures for ongoing national referenda in the future. I'd be fully on board myself. I can think of a few worthwile questions for the first half of 2018 alone: cannabis legalisation, future funding suggestions for the NHS, and measures targeted at plastic pllution.
Why does me wanting to maintain the current status within EU as a vastly better option than Brexit make me pro EU. It makes me anti poverty not pro EU
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They didnt agree though did they Paz? Its not a hypothetical situation. If the conditions allow for there to be enough momentum to allow a 2nd amendment then so be it. If Brexit was ratified done and dusted by now then thats that game over...rat pie and blue passports for everyone.
Hardcore gifting
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Oh dear...
Thankfully no other countries make tea and Marmite, or they'd look like absolute idiots putting those in a hamper.
He's been crucified in the replies. Marmite was invented by a German. Marmite and PG Tips are made by a 50% Dutch owned company etc etc
Apart from anything else, it looks like one of the shittest hampers of food you've ever seen. Bulked up with a book about Winston Churchill he probably bought at a service station en route to the airport. The whole thing is straight out of Alan Partridge.
Apart from anything else, it looks like one of the shittest hampers of food you've ever seen. Bulked up with a book about Winston Churchill he probably bought at a service station en route to the airport. The whole thing is straight out of Alan Partridge.
Tbf, gin is always a nice present. The rest would wind up in the closet for ages/be regifted.
Cringeworthy but, with a bottle of gin and some other bottle of booze hidden in that red gift packet, it might work on Juncker.
Especially as PG Tips tea is grown in Kenya.
Worth a read on Russian influence on Brexit. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ailed-us-senate-report?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
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On the subject of food...
A fitting reposte for the racist and classist Yasmin Alibhai-Brown, following her most recent anti-Brexit column:
A fitting reposte for the racist and classist Yasmin Alibhai-Brown, following her most recent anti-Brexit column:
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While its easy to mock the hamper, its more symbolic than anything else.
I imagine the dutch would include douwe egberts coffee in their hamper but there aren't that many coffee bean growers in holland.
I imagine the dutch would include douwe egberts coffee in their hamper but there aren't that many coffee bean growers in holland.
I imagine the Dutch wouldn't a) try to leave the EU or b) come up with such an embarrassing way of trying to show what the EU will miss when they're gone.
If they did, the basket would be filled with tulips and fresh fruit and veg. Probably some Edam cheese and a bottle of Heineken too. It would look a hell of a lot less shit than than the piece of work cobbled together by your lot.
Feckin hell that is embarrassing.
Symbolic of what? How fecked your industries are when it'll be much harder to import raw ingredients?
Not to mention as so many reply tweets have said, Winston "United States Of Europe" Churchill.
There's only so many faces to palm in the world, have mercy.
Absolutely, as long as by 'fitting reposte' you actually mean 'terribly written, intentionally misleading and basically idiotic riposte'.
The fact he tries to claim she 'mixed up' Europe and the EU by using the two interchangably says about all that needs to be said about this nonsense.
Digby Jones is a cretin
Also noticed the Hendricks was missing from the hamper in a later picture. Wonder who had that
Also noticed the Hendricks was missing from the hamper in a later picture. Wonder who had that
Yes it is symbolic. Symbolic of a silliness and lack of seriousness that our media seems to encourage in our leaders. Just like when a group of elected politicians went along with this..
You think foreign governments see this stuff and think they're dealing with serious professionals? We're dealing with the single biggest foreign and domestic political challenge of our generation, and we have our politicians acting like they're on Noel's fecking House Party.
The best thing about that lame attempt at satire (how old is the writer? 12?) is that it drew my attention to Alibhai-Brown’s piece. I hadn’t read anything by her before and she writes quite well. Yer man could learn a lot from her. Not just about Europe.
Digging the Marmite but Hendricks Gin is garbage for brand whores and bettered by Aldi's Oliver Cromwell London Dry Gin at less than half the price. Twats.
Gove looks like he's holding up a hospital drip. Is it feeding him or Global Britain??Yes it is symbolic. Symbolic of a silliness and lack of seriousness that our media seems to encourage in our leaders. Just like when a group of elected politicians went along with this..
You think foreign governments see this stuff and think they're dealing with serious professionals? We're dealing with the single biggest foreign and domestic political challenge of our generation, and we have our politicians acting like they're on Noel's fecking House Party.
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Yes just as symbolic, we associate tulips with the dutch and not from their origin, same with Delfts blue which is just an imitation of Chinese pottery.
Best out of 3?
So, are you saying the tulips aren't grown there?
I don't believe I said that but carry on. My mum used to grow them, perhaps they originate from Bitton?
Symbolic, I'd have put a curry in the hamper too, it doesn't get more British than that.
I'm sure i couuld find you a Remainer columnist without the snobbery and racial prejudice...
I've been watching Alibhai-Brown as a panellist on Dateline London for many years (the line-up changes weekly), she is among the worst on there irrespective of one's politics.
Unless you are anti-English in particlar, prejudiced against working-class people and are nauseatingly conceited, i'm not sure that there's a lot to like in her aarticle.
I have gone for Pot smoking liberal elite for Shakespeare, but you can't win them all.
They thought the EU will crumble into pieces the day Brexit happened or at least it will bend over backwards and give the UK whatever it wanted. That seems more unlikely every passing day. No wonder why these talks of a second referendum are gaining momentum. If they lose then they will come out as beacons of democracy and 'reluctantly' withdraw their article 50 letter. If they win, well, no one can really blame them for their mess can they?
I hope the EU won't accept it. We can't have countries playing games like that.
I hope the EU won't accept it. We can't have countries playing games like that.
What's your point? Is my inherent Brexit-based racism and insular mind supposed to suffer some form of psychotic break beause there might be a foreign connection to things which Brits like?
