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No that only works when you win.You do realise democracy is about continually voting on issues as the facts and times change rather than 1 vote at 1 time being the rule for all eternity?
No that only works when you win.You do realise democracy is about continually voting on issues as the facts and times change rather than 1 vote at 1 time being the rule for all eternity?
Thats how referendums work Paz, they exist because of the political situation at the time and the mood of citizens/electorate.Are you serious? So continual referendums on the same subject?!
Switzerland has loads of referendums doesn’t it, how do they deal with it?
And re-executed over and over and over again?Thats how referendums work Paz, they exist because of the political situation at the time and the mood of citizens/electorate.
If the political situation dictates. Theres enough doubt about Brexit around to make a 2nd referendum possible. You can't say democracy only works when it suits me or my ideals and once my sides won then that should be enough. The result was so tight there was always going to be doubt and discourse about it plus referendums arent the same as elections.And re-executed over and over and over again?
Curious, do you support new Scottish independence referendum?
So if the UK / EU had agreed in Jun 2016 that we need a deal by Dec 2016 to avoid uncertainty for both sides, and we did, you’d still clamour for a re-think even now?If the political situation dictates. Theres enough doubt about Brexit around to make a 2nd referendum possible. You can't say democracy only works when it suits me or my ideals and once my sides won then that should be enough. The result was so tight there was always going to be doubt and discourse about it plus referendums arent the same as elections.
As for Scotland yes I would want a second referendum as I am a nationalist and would hope a successfully independant Scotland would hasten a United Ireland.
Had only the Remainer dominated parliament acted thus in the past. Such direct democrac y was felt to be an unneceesary, however. Or in the case of the Lib Dems, bless their cottons, they wanted a simple In/Out vote to put the issue to bed once and for all.You can't say democracy only works when it suits me or my ideals and once my sides won then that should be enough..
Why does me wanting to maintain the current status within EU as a vastly better option than Brexit make me pro EU. It makes me anti poverty not pro EUSo if the UK / EU had agreed in Jun 2016 that we need a deal by Dec 2016 to avoid uncertainty for both sides, and we did, you’d still clamour for a re-think even now?
If not, opportunistic much?
Very interesting re your ‘nationalist’ outlook, but seems you are also pro-EU?!
Edit: AV voting system referendum a good example too; guessing should be voted on every few months / years too?
They didnt agree though did they Paz? Its not a hypothetical situation. If the conditions allow for there to be enough momentum to allow a 2nd amendment then so be it. If Brexit was ratified done and dusted by now then thats that game over...rat pie and blue passports for everyone.So if the UK / EU had agreed in Jun 2016 that we need a deal by Dec 2016 to avoid uncertainty for both sides, and we did, you’d still clamour for a re-think even now?
If not, opportunistic much?
Very interesting re your ‘nationalist’ outlook, but seems you are also pro-EU?!
Edit: AV voting system referendum a good example too; guessing should be voted on every few months / years too?
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Tbf, gin is always a nice present. The rest would wind up in the closet for ages/be regifted.Apart from anything else, it looks like one of the shittest hampers of food you've ever seen.
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I imagine the Dutch wouldn't a) try to leave the EU or b) come up with such an embarrassing way of trying to show what the EU will miss when they're gone.While its easy to mock the hamper, its more symbolic than anything else.
I imagine the dutch would include douwe egberts coffee in their hamper but there aren't that many coffee bean growers in holland.
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Symbolic of what? How fecked your industries are when it'll be much harder to import raw ingredients?While its easy to mock the hamper, its more symbolic than anything else.
I imagine the dutch would include douwe egberts coffee in their hamper but there aren't that many coffee bean growers in holland.
Absolutely, as long as by 'fitting reposte' you actually mean 'terribly written, intentionally misleading and basically idiotic riposte'.On the subject of food...
A fitting reposte for the racist and classist Yasmin Alibhai-Brown, following her most recent anti-Brexit column.
Yes it is symbolic. Symbolic of a silliness and lack of seriousness that our media seems to encourage in our leaders. Just like when a group of elected politicians went along with this..While its easy to mock the hamper, its more symbolic than anything else.
The best thing about that lame attempt at satire (how old is the writer? 12?) is that it drew my attention to Alibhai-Brown’s piece. I hadn’t read anything by her before and she writes quite well. Yer man could learn a lot from her. Not just about Europe.On the subject of food...
A fitting reposte for the racist and classist Yasmin Alibhai-Brown, following her most recent anti-Brexit column:
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Gove looks like he's holding up a hospital drip. Is it feeding him or Global Britain??Yes it is symbolic. Symbolic of a silliness and lack of seriousness that our media seems to encourage in our leaders. Just like when a group of elected politicians went along with this..
You think foreign governments see this stuff and think they're dealing with serious professionals? We're dealing with the single biggest foreign and domestic political challenge of our generation, and we have our politicians acting like they're on Noel's fecking House Party.
Yes just as symbolic, we associate tulips with the dutch and not from their origin, same with Delfts blue which is just an imitation of Chinese pottery.If they did, the basket would be filled with tulips and fresh fruit and veg
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So, are you saying the tulips aren't grown there?Yes just as symbolic, we associate tulips with the dutch and not from their origin, same with Delfts blue which is just an imitation of Chinese pottery.
I don't believe I said that but carry on. My mum used to grow them, perhaps they originate from Bitton?So, are you saying the tulips aren't grown there?
Tulips grown there.I don't believe I said that but carry on. My mum used to grow them, perhaps they originate from Bitton?
Thankfully no other countries make tea and Marmite, or they'd look like absolute idiots putting those in a hamper.
Symbolic, I'd have put a curry in the hamper too, it doesn't get more British than that.Tulips grown there.
Tea, in the UK hamper, not grown there.
That's what I mean.
I'm sure i couuld find you a Remainer columnist without the snobbery and racial prejudice...The best thing about that lame attempt at satire (how old is the writer? 12?) is that it drew my attention to Alibhai-Brown’s piece. I hadn’t read anything by her before and she writes quite well. Yer man could learn a lot from her. Not just about Europe.
I have gone for Pot smoking liberal elite for Shakespeare, but you can't win them all.
Marmite – invented by a German and owned by the Anglo-Dutch company Unilever, which has raised a series of warnings over the impact Brexit will have on UK business.
- PG Tips – also owned by Unilever. The company has delayed announcing the location of its headquarters due to fears around Brexit.
- Hendrick’s Gin – produced by William Grant & Sons in Girvan, Scotland, it moved its base to Dublin for trading reasons.
- Fortnum & Mason tea, piccalilli and marmalade – the boss of London’s flagship luxury department store warned last month that Brexit had damaged the UK’s brand and was struggling to find staff.
- Dorset cheddar cheese – enjoys protected origin status provided by the EU. It is supplied by the Queen’s cheesemonger Paxton & Whitfield, which sells as much European cheese as it does British.
- Biography of Winston Churchill – Arguably the greatest Briton, Churchill called for a United States of Europe in 1946 and was never known to be a little Englander. Mr Barnier had just seen His Darkest Hour according to his aides.
- Complete Works of Shakespeare – Difficult to say how he would have voted being dead for over 400 years but he set many of his plays across Europe and liberally stole from other European dramatists and writers.
What's your point? Is my inherent Brexit-based racism and insular mind supposed to suffer some form of psychotic break beause there might be a foreign connection to things which Brits like?I have gone for Pot smoking liberal elite for Shakespeare, but you can't win them all.