That's fair enough. I don't mind difference of views, as long as your consistent. So if you're not a fan of EU because they're not elected in the way you like then you should not be a fan of the HoL, The Queen and the fact that our media organisations are owned by a few.
I'm not indeed. But in case of democracy it's not as much about perfection, it's about the direction it is heading in and the EU is undemocratic by design, it's not an accident or mistake, or that it's flaws are inhereted from a long gone past in non democratic times, and as is gets more powerful this means power is taken away from the people of the member states.
What's also very concerning regarding democracy is that the EU side of the referendum has difficulty accepting they lost. They are not just sore losers, some of them refuse to respect the outcome of the democratic process, they want to change the voting system, the percentage needed for one of the two options, they want to change the voters etc. And some of it goes beyond just frustration.
This is not the first time the EU has been on the losing end of a vote, they've lost a vote in France, twice in the Netherlands, but as Juncker says, we'll just go on. So the really surprising thing here is that the EU actually says it will respect the outcome of this vote, which must be a first. Normally elections without the desired result for the EU are just ignored, or there are held referenda until there's one of them with the desired outcome. I wonder if they can keep this up or there will be some attempt to correct another mistake of the voter who doesn't know what's good for him.