Chabon
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That statue of Bergkamp really makes the point more perfectly than any comment ever could.Being cynical and nasty is one thing, but trying to control a ball is beyond the pale.
That statue of Bergkamp really makes the point more perfectly than any comment ever could.Being cynical and nasty is one thing, but trying to control a ball is beyond the pale.
Yes - highly rated by clueless Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime. His record against English clubs speaks for itself too.He's obviously highly rated by FIFA/UEFA given that he did last seasons CL semi and the World Club Cup final this year.
You clearly don't because consistency is the point.It's not missing the point, I just think its a bad point.
Referee got one right and one wrong, no point trying to make out he got two wrong in order to be even more indignant about the wrong decision.
Unless you're arguing consistency. Point being if Arbeloa's isn't, neither is Nani's.Indeed, if you argue for red cards for Lopez and Arbeloa you effectively make the Nani decision the 'correct' one and those incorrect, which doesn't help when the point you're making is the opposite.
Serdar Tatli believes his refereeing compatriot has all-but-blown his chances of presiding over the Wembley showpiece following his controversial call on Tuesday
A Turkish former referee has claimed that Cuneyt Cakir's hopes of refereeing in the Champions League final have been dashed in the wake of his decision to send off Nani in the second leg of the last-16 tie between Manchester United and Real Madrid.
The 36-year-old official has been accused by some in the media of making the wrong call after he chose to dismiss the Portuguese winger for what he saw as an excessive high boot on Blancos full-back Alvaro Arbeloa.
Speaking after Tuesday's match, Serdar Tatli - a former Uefa referee - expressed his regret that Cakir's actions at Old Trafford may well have cost his compatriot the opportunity of presiding over a European curtain-raiser this season.
"Nani is looking for the ball. By the time Alvaro Arbeloa arrives, the Portuguese [Nani] doesn't even see him," he told NTVSpor.
"The action is definitely not deliberate. As his intention was to only play the ball, it should have been a yellow at the most.
"I am proud as a Turk to see Cuneyt at this stage, but he lowered his chances of a European Cup final last night [on Tuesday]."
Hope that's true. But it is UEFA. They might make him the ref just to make a statement.The opinion of a former Turkish referee:
Cakir has all-but-blown his chances of refereeing the final
Literally the only reason you are bringing it up is because you think it makes the Nani decision worse.You clearly don't because consistency is the point.
If one is right and the other is wrong, then he is inconsistent. If he believes the Nani one to be correct, as UEFA does, and Arbeooa to be correct, then he is entirely inconsistent.
Arbeloa should have gone under his tight rules.
Pretty simple. Nothing to do with indignant.
Unless you're arguing consistency. Point being if Arbeloa's isn't, neither is Nani's.
Seriously, this isn't rocket science.
Incorrect. It would be a consistently tightly called game. Got it?Literally the only reason you are bringing it up is because you think it makes the Nani decision worse.
The reason he's made the decision is pretty obvious, its wrong but obvious. If he were to send off Arbeloa there would be consistency, but it would be consistent errors.
Literally, you don't reside within my head and should not pretend to.Literally the only reason you are bringing it up is because you think it makes the Nani decision worse.
No, it's a problem of the referee sending Nani off incorrectly ffs.Incorrect. It would be a consistently tightly called game. Got it?
I thought the Arbeloa could have been a red when I saw it. If it was, I'd have no problem with the Nani one.
It's called consistency and the ref sets it during the game.
This is a problem of inconsistency.
This is very simple to understand.
Literally, you don't reside within my head and should not pretend to.
A criminal, according to one of our fans.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-21687292
(Probably already been posted.)
If someone wants to jerk us off, the least they could do is wear a latex glove. It's a heath hazard issue, really.A criminal, according to one of our fans.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-21687292
(Probably already been posted.)
But if the law says nothing about intent, does this matter?The opinion of a former Turkish referee:
Cakir has all-but-blown his chances of refereeing the final
The serious foul play law mentions "excessive force" as a prerequisite for a sending off.But if the law says nothing about intent, does this matter?
REFEREE WHO SENT NANI OFF IS A REAL MADRID FANSurely that's a fake account?
not sure if you use twitter yourself? When you tweet a photo, you use a link on the web to tweet. If you want to use a photo in your own album you still need to upload it to tweet. Using exisiting photos on the web is the easiest/most convenient way on twitter. FB is a different storyIt's surely a fake account? I got sucked in with the drama when I was frustrated after the game, but looking at it in context, why the feck would he use photos of himself from google? He surely can't be that lazy.
No better sign that it's time to move on.REFEREE WHO SENT NANI OFF IS A REAL MADRID FAN
By Daily Star reporter
When I read this Cnut has a twitter account showing he's a RM fan, the first thought was the media must be tipped off so as to pick up the story. Credit to the Daily Star reporting thisThe Daily Star.
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No better sign that it's time to move on.
Not really, he had every right to go for that ball (as did Nani) and got caught. He didn't really do anything wrong.Arbeloa was clever, he won it for his team. He is the one who knows there is going to be a collision and he got himself in the perfect position to get clobbered.
Yeah, i thought this at the time too. All that time that Nani is raising his boot and not seeing Arbeloa, Arbeloa is running towards said raised boot, completely aware of it.Arbeloa was clever, he won it for his team. He is the one who knows there is going to be a collision and he got himself in the perfect position to get clobbered.
you mean apart from rolling around in agony holding his chest when he got touched in the arm? he played for the redNot really, he had every right to go for that ball (as did Nani) and got caught. He didn't really do anything wrong.
you mean apart from rolling around in agony holding his chest when he got touched in the arm? he played for the red
yea I think he was playing for the yellow - everyone looked stunned that the red came out even the madrid players.Tbf, Arbeloa would get on like that if he thought he could get a throw in out of it, I doubt even he thought a red was coming.
no top ref can be that incompetent.Come on
And therein lies the issue, he's a part-time ref from the Turkish league, he's never going to match the standard of referee we expect to see in games like these. Hell, we don't think much of many of our full-time, professional refs that we have in the premier league!no top ref can be that incompetent.
Exactly, no way was that fake, you would have to be on the most boring wum ever.I'm fascinated by who would go through so much effort to set up such a boring fake twitter account.
fair points.And therein lies the issue, he's a part-time ref from the Turkish league, he's never going to match the standard of referee we expect to see in games like these. Hell, we don't think much of many of our full-time, professional refs that we have in the premier league!