Mount won't go. Especially since he'll be able to resurrect his England career with a good season.Sell Mount and Case to them
Mount won't go. Especially since he'll be able to resurrect his England career with a good season.Sell Mount and Case to them
We have ZERO creativity in the squad without Bruno.I think it's probably his time, as much as I'd like to see him stay another year and we do well, so he gets a good send off, we'd be idiots not to take a decent fee for him. If you can get £50m for the pair or more, the savings on salaries will be huge as well for FFP calcs.
Got to think of it without emotion though, he's turning 30 in Sept and is on huge wages. He's probably, on balance, our best player but the sad truth is we won't be challenging for the PL in the next 2-3 seasons unless Ineos absolutely nail recruitment. How then do we go about building a team that can make the jump from where we are now (likely finishing about 30 points off the title)? You accept Bruno, Varane, Case, Maguire, Eriksen, Lindelof etc. aren't going to be part of that. In most cases no one cares and we want them sold but Bruno is in that group.We have ZERO creativity in the squad without Bruno.
Rashford, Antony, Garnacho, Amad all want to run inside and shoot on their respective wings. None of them are trying to link up or find a killer pass to the striker. We might as well sell Hojlund too.
if you dont have faith in the new ownership group and the staff overhaul, whats the purpose then? Nothing will matter. We arent good enough now, and wont get better then if someone truly thinks they cant find anyone good out there in the entire world.Getting rid of Bruno would be laughably bad.
We have absolutely no creativity in the side without him, and I have absolutely no faith in us recruiting a suitable replacement.
No emotion involved mate, we should be signing Brunos replacement (assuming we are going for youth under INEOS) and making sure he is up to speed before we let Bruno go.Got to think of it without emotion though, he's turning 30 in Sept and is on huge wages. He's probably, on balance, our best player but the sad truth is we won't be challenging for the PL in the next 2-3 seasons unless Ineos absolutely nail recruitment. How then do we go about building a team that can make the jump from where we are now (likely finishing about 30 points off the title)? You accept Bruno, Varane, Case, Maguire, Eriksen, Lindelof etc. aren't going to be part of that. In most cases no one cares and we want them sold but Bruno is in that group.
As I said, I'd rather he stayed another year and we do well, then he can depart on a high but that's just a dream and if we can get good money for him (plus being honest after that interview he seemed like he was a bit done with the United crap) then you take it.
There won't be a 'replacement' though? The whole debate with Bruno is he's a bit unique in how he plays, we need to evolve the team and spread the goals around a lot more. Arsenal have the best GD in the league and yet their top scorer only has 16 goals, their forwards don't put up amazing numbers but they have so many ways to nick goals and that's how we get better. Gone are the days where you sign one player and they completely change your level.No emotion involved mate, we should be signing Brunos replacement (assuming we are going for youth under INEOS) and making sure he is up to speed before we let Bruno go.
We can’t be selling Bruno first and then trying to acclimatise his replacement. It will set us back again.
Of course I'm basing it on the assumption that we'd be signing someone to replace him...Yes, let’s sell our most reliable & best attacking outlet…. There’s about 30 players who need to go before him anyway.
Bruno alone is worth 100m. 150 for bothIf it’s going to be around £100m for both I’d take it.
Bruno would be a shame but probably a good time to cash in, as we have probably seen the best of him sadly. Shame for him as he’s wasted his best years carrying us.
Casemiro can’t leave soon enough - like a Soccer aid celebrity this season.
Agreed - but Cas is going on a freeBruno alone is worth 100m. 150 for both
120m for the pair and I’m laughing to the bankBoth of them out would be fantastic. Especially if it's a Saudi club where you'd expect us to get a decent sum.
Exactly. Just stop fecking watching if you have 0 faith in the *completely new decision making team* that's comprised of what the consensus around the industry agree are all top level executives.if you dont have faith in the new ownership group and the staff overhaul, whats the purpose then? Nothing will matter. We arent good enough now, and wont get better then if someone truly thinks they cant find anyone good out there in the entire world.
Nah, he will be 30 next season, 70m tops.Bruno alone is worth 100m. 150 for both
We have recruited Jason Wilcox and are working on getting Ashworth over the line. Two highly regarded football men who are considered some of the best in the business and you say you don't have faith in them finding a suitable Bruno replacement if sold?Getting rid of Bruno would be laughably bad.
We have absolutely no creativity in the side without him, and I have absolutely no faith in us recruiting a suitable replacement.
That would be some laughably bad business. These would be marquee signings for Saudi. The United captain and vice captain for 50m. Add another 100m and you’d probably be a lot closer.I think it's probably his time, as much as I'd like to see him stay another year and we do well, so he gets a good send off, we'd be idiots not to take a decent fee for him. If you can get £50m for the pair or more, the savings on salaries will be huge as well for FFP calcs.
It will be interesting to see how many players want to go to Saudi. It's turned into a bit of a shitshow !! I would be surprised if Bruno would even go there.That would be some laughably bad business. These would be marquee signings for Saudi. The United captain and vice captain for 50m. Add another 100m and you’d probably be a lot closer.
Bruno to a Saudi club should be 100m. Maybe a bit less as they will undoubtedly offer the most favourable payment terms.
We can have ETH find us the next Antony & Onana with those funds35mil for Case and 65mil for Bruno. Please and thank you Saudi.
No chance, he‘s not worth anywhere near £50m. He’s 32, we’d be lucky to get half that.Again, depends on who were hire as manager next season. If it's Tuchel, then I see him staying for another season and do reasonably well in what will be a more compact system than the craziness we see now.
Ideally, we would let him go for ~50m and invest that money in another midfielder.
From Saudi? I would agree that we'd be lucky to get half of that from any other European club, but 40m-50m should be the minimum from a club in Saudi Arabia. They threw all kinds of money to acquire players last summer. I think Liverpool for ~40m for Fabinho, and Case is a much better and high profile player than him.No chance, he‘s not worth anywhere near £50m, we’d be lucky to get half that.
What makes you think he wants to go to Saudi?From Saudi? I would agree that we'd be lucky to get half of that from any other European club, but 40m-50m should be the minimum from a club in Saudi Arabia. They threw all kinds of money to acquire players last summer. I think Liverpool for ~40m for Fabinho, and Case is a much better and high profile player than him.
If he is not going to Saudi, then he is staying here. All the fees talk is moot.What makes you think he wants to go to Saudi?
Think he’ll see out his contract and leave on free. If he went anywhere, perhaps US?If he is not going to Saudi, then he is staying here. All the fees talk is moot.
Let's hope he picks Saudi and gets us a good fee while we get rid of his hefty wages.Think he’ll see out his contract and leave on free. If he went anywhere, perhaps US?
Yes it would be good if we if we could move him on for a decent fee. If not he’s still a class player, albeit at age 32 probably the on the decline. Perhaps a new manager would make better use of him.Let's hope he picks Saudi and gets us a good fee while we get rid of his hefty wages.
If not, then I hope that the next manager can make better us of him. I think the system ETH employs has made him look ten times worse than he actually is. I am sure Tuchel, if appointed, can make better use of him by having a more compact system and having legs around him in the midfield. Then yeah, US is a possibility when his contract expires in a couple of years.
I don’t think we’re getting much for Case, so the bulk of that is Bruno. I really don’t think he’d command much more of a fee given his age and the reality that the last few seasons he’s not been as great as he was when he came. I still think he’ll stay but it would be prudent, in my opinion, to take a decent fee for him.That would be some laughably bad business. These would be marquee signings for Saudi. The United captain and vice captain for 50m. Add another 100m and you’d probably be a lot closer.
Bruno to a Saudi club should be 100m. Maybe a bit less as they will undoubtedly offer the most favourable payment terms.
Cash in on Bruno and botch recruitment and United finish in the bottom half of the table next season.I would sell both but it's risky from a leadership standpoint. But I would still take the gamble, if you can cash in on a 30 years old Bruno you have to seriously consider it while Casemiro is clearly replaceable.
Well said! Crazy some of the takesI'd hate for some of you lot to be in charge of this team. You'd do a worse job than ETH has regarding wheeling and dealing. Casemiro out i'm fine with. Looks past his best. But Bruno??? Good teams don't sell their best players, the very notion that you sell your best players to recoup some value and sign others, is a small club mentality. And unless you strike gold and get Coutinho like money like the scousers did it's not worth it.
Take Bruno out of our team this season and we'd be probably hovering above relegation. Give us 60m to waste on an average player? No thanks. Buy better players and make the team stocked so that the benched players can be sold on for profit is what good teams do. Ala 115FC with Palmer, Jesus etc.